Chkdsk /F doesn't fix problems on reboot

[Steve N.]

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Steve,

Bah, well if he taught you anything it couldn't possibly have been me.
(Actually, the way I figure it is if I say I know nothing and am wrong in my
posts people don't think twice but if I'm right they'll think I've learned
something.) <g>

Galen

LOL! Are you sure your not the same guy? He's got a sense of humor like
yours. Maybe it comes with the name

Steve

 

[Galen]

In Steve N. <[email protected]> had this to say:

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LOL! Are you sure your not the same guy? He's got a sense of humor
like yours. Maybe it comes with the name

I've only attended two colleges in my life. The first was UMA where I
majored in drinking and minored in failing. It was a music college and that
lasted almost all the way through the second semester. The second was UMF
where I still go today though I'm not actually going there right now, I am
just going back there this Fall. It was going to be this Summer but I opted
to wait 'til Fall to give myself a bit more time to prepare myself as it's
been a few years now since I was in school. I'm 31 now and haven't much
better to do with my life. As odd as this sounds I'm thinking that I'll just
keep going until I don't feel like going any longer and degrees don't mean a
great deal to me either.

I figured you might find this interesting:

Add XP Help and Support group to your newsreading client. Find a post by Dan
made on 4/14. You'll see that I've responded twice. The second answer of
mine would be what you're looking for and it isn't authorative by any means
but it has a bunch of information on the chkdsk subject that you might be
able to improve on or find fault in. I'd appreciate your letting me know if
any of it was wrong in your opinion.

I'm not sure if this link will take you directly there but I hope it will:


If it doesn't then you'll have to find it on your own I'm afraid. You can
post corrections either there in public or the reply-to email address is
valid.

Galen

 

[Steve N.]

In Steve N. <[email protected]> had this to say:

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I've only attended two colleges in my life. The first was UMA where I
majored in drinking and minored in failing.
LOL!

It was a music college and that
lasted almost all the way through the second semester.

I studied music in college, too, back in the 70s. I aced it though, I
took it easy on the beer and chased people out of the house when it was
homework time

The second was UMF
where I still go today though I'm not actually going there right now, I am
just going back there this Fall. It was going to be this Summer but I opted
to wait 'til Fall to give myself a bit more time to prepare myself as it's
been a few years now since I was in school. I'm 31 now and haven't much
better to do with my life. As odd as this sounds I'm thinking that I'll just
keep going until I don't feel like going any longer and degrees don't mean a
great deal to me either.

I've never placed a lot of weight on degrees either, especially after
encountering so many people with masters and doctorates that seem about
as intelligent as a brick.

BTW, I just turned 53 last month. But I'm not old just older

I figured you might find this interesting:

Add XP Help and Support group to your newsreading client. Find a post by Dan
made on 4/14. You'll see that I've responded twice. The second answer of
mine would be what you're looking for and it isn't authorative by any means
but it has a bunch of information on the chkdsk subject that you might be
able to improve on or find fault in. I'd appreciate your letting me know if
any of it was wrong in your opinion.

I'm not sure if this link will take you directly there but I hope it will:


If it doesn't then you'll have to find it on your own I'm afraid. You can
post corrections either there in public or the reply-to email address is
valid.

Galen

I'll try to look into that. Thanks again.

Steve

 

[Steve N.]

In Steve N. <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:




I've only attended two colleges in my life. The first was UMA where I
majored in drinking and minored in failing. It was a music college and that
lasted almost all the way through the second semester. The second was UMF
where I still go today though I'm not actually going there right now, I am
just going back there this Fall. It was going to be this Summer but I opted
to wait 'til Fall to give myself a bit more time to prepare myself as it's
been a few years now since I was in school. I'm 31 now and haven't much
better to do with my life. As odd as this sounds I'm thinking that I'll just
keep going until I don't feel like going any longer and degrees don't mean a
great deal to me either.

I figured you might find this interesting:

Add XP Help and Support group to your newsreading client. Find a post by Dan
made on 4/14. You'll see that I've responded twice. The second answer of
mine would be what you're looking for and it isn't authorative by any means
but it has a bunch of information on the chkdsk subject that you might be
able to improve on or find fault in. I'd appreciate your letting me know if
any of it was wrong in your opinion.

I'm not sure if this link will take you directly there but I hope it will:


If it doesn't then you'll have to find it on your own I'm afraid. You can
post corrections either there in public or the reply-to email address is
valid.

Galen

Found it.

The only thing I'll add concerns trusting NTFS to auto-correct itself
(which it does quite nicely most of the time); I have found quite a few
cases where security permissions weren't working right for normal user
access to programs and manually running CHKDSK /F and it fixing "unused
security descriptors" actually corrected the problems. I've also found
in some rarer cases that manually running CHKDSK /F has corrected some
BSOD issues that (as usual) pointed to hardware or driver problems. My
guestimation is that, yes, they were driver issues but they were the
result of driver files not loading correctly due to what MS calls "minor
inconsistencies". Therefore I find it useful to manually run CHKDSK /F
and tend to do that as a matter of course anymore when troubleshooting.

Oh, and it looks like you left out that /R not only attempts to recover
and relocate data from bad sectors, but also marks the cluster(s)
containing the bad sectors as bad so the OS no longer tires to use them.

Other than that, it's great advice Galen. Keep up the good work!

Steve

 

[Galen]

In Steve N. <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

Oh, and it looks like you left out that /R not only attempts to
recover and relocate data from bad sectors, but also marks the
cluster(s) containing the bad sectors as bad so the OS no longer
tires to use them.
Other than that, it's great advice Galen. Keep up the good work!

Steve

I'll make it a point to update that and C&P and send it out to be listed on
the site that's not yet public... I'm tired of cutting and pasting to get
the information out and am probably just going to end up building a site so
that I can save time by just sending them to a link and adding any
additional information. Which, I might add, is why I thought you'd be a good
person to ask if I'd missed anything seeing as you seemed interested (and
knowledgable) in chkdsk... As an aside: Yes, it's amazing what chkdsk finds.
Under normal circumstances I like to assume that the OP has already tried
that and defrag before posting. Unfortunately? They usually haven't...

Here's an oddity... I seldom, if ever, find a need to manually run chkdsk at
home. It's certainly not because of anything good that I'm doing. I seldom
defrag either. I install, uninstall, run beta software, and update
everything all the time... I generally beat the living snot out of the
computer. (Yes, sometimes this includes a hammer.) I'll leave a drive
hanging off a ribbon cable for weeks on end, I'll hard reboot for fun, and
am willing to try most any tweak out there at least once just to see if it
breaks anything. (It's good fun really.) You'd think that with all the hell
I put this through I'd have more problems but I am probably the worst beta
tester there is as I seldom actually encounter problems. Go figure?

Galen

 

[Gene Abner]

Have You tried reinstalling The operating system?

 

[Malke]

Have You tried reinstalling The operating system?

Reinstalling an operating system onto failing hardware is futile. To the
OP: you should check the health of your hard drive by downloading a
diagnostic utility from the hard drive mftr.'s website. Usually you
will download the file and make a bootable floppy with it. Boot with
the media and do a thorough test. If the drive has physical errors,
replace it.

Malke