Change mouse orientation?

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Noozer

Does anyone know of any utilities that would let me change the orientation
of my mouse?

I would like Left-Right movements to become Down-Up movements, and vice
versa.

My mouse is a Dell optical mouse and it appears to be a Logitech design.
 
G

GT

Noozer said:
Does anyone know of any utilities that would let me change the orientation
of my mouse?

I would like Left-Right movements to become Down-Up movements, and vice
versa.

I can't actually help, but may I ask why?
 
N

Noozer

Carpal tunnel...

It helps to place the mouse on my desk between me and my keyboard.
Unfortunatley, it leaves my hand and he mouse at 90 degrees to normal.
 
G

Grinder

Noozer said:
Carpal tunnel...

It helps to place the mouse on my desk between me and my keyboard.
Unfortunatley, it leaves my hand and he mouse at 90 degrees to normal.

I suppose, if nothing else, you could swap the mechanical connections in
the mouse...
 
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GT

Noozer said:
Carpal tunnel...

It helps to place the mouse on my desk between me and my keyboard.
Unfortunatley, it leaves my hand and he mouse at 90 degrees to normal.

I have a feeling that Logitech drivers have a feature to change the mouse
orientation, but I only have microsoft mice here. Have you looked for newer
(Logitech) drivers for your mouse's serial number?

You could consider a different mouse - there are trackballs (I think they
are called) that would probably suit - their orientation is physical so you
could rotate them to suit. I believe you can also buy trackpads (the flat
'things' on laptops), only I can't find any with a quick web search - I
probably have the name wrong!
 
K

kony

I have a feeling that Logitech drivers have a feature to change the mouse
orientation, but I only have microsoft mice here. Have you looked for newer
(Logitech) drivers for your mouse's serial number?

I don't recall on the older Logitech Mouseware drivers, but
on the Logitech Setpoint version I'm presently running
(3.1?) there is no such feature. Logitech has v3.3 on
their 'site now, maybe it has more.

There is also an "Uberoptions" tweak for Setpoint that may
(or may not, I've never looked for this in it) provide a way
to do it, or might give hints enough to edit your own XML
files to get that result. Anyway the Uberoptions d/l is on
this page, http://www.mstarmetro.net/~rlowens/uberOptions/


You could consider a different mouse - there are trackballs (I think they
are called) that would probably suit - their orientation is physical so you
could rotate them to suit. I believe you can also buy trackpads (the flat
'things' on laptops), only I can't find any with a quick web search - I
probably have the name wrong!

Try "touchpad" or "trackpoint" (which only by relation, may
bring up products that have the touchpad in addition to a
trackpoint stick). Most are ridiculously expensive for what
they are, around $50 IIRC. There is one signficantly
cheaper DIY option, to built one (add the surrounding frame
and a PS2 cord) from this base which is complete except for
hacking the pointout for the PS2 pins, and the frame around
the sides and back to protect it (would work without frame
but fragile). I mean a DIY frame design since it had nothing
like that as intended inside the palmrest of some laptop.
http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G1283
I am sure it's PS2 as I bought one over a year ago and
hooked up a cord to it, but at the moment I don't recall the
pinout, it shouldn't be hard at a glance or with a
multimeter to check since there is only power, ground, clock
and data.
 
C

CBFalconer

Noozer wrote: *** top-posting fixed ***
Carpal tunnel...

It helps to place the mouse on my desk between me and my keyboard.
Unfortunatley, it leaves my hand and he mouse at 90 degrees to
normal.

I don't know just how the mouse transmits direction. It may be via
pulse sign, or via pulse phase (wrt other pulse). You will have to
investigate. If by sign, you may be able to trade two wires,
depending on handedness.

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GT

It helps to place the mouse on my desk between me and my keyboard.
I don't recall on the older Logitech Mouseware drivers, but
on the Logitech Setpoint version I'm presently running
(3.1?) there is no such feature. Logitech has v3.3 on
their 'site now, maybe it has more.

Perhaps the feature does not exist - I said "I have a feeling", but I simply
read about it, there was no evidence or links, so perhaps someone was
talking through their posteria!
 
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GT

kony said:
Try "touchpad" or "trackpoint" (which only by relation, may
bring up products that have the touchpad in addition to a
trackpoint stick). Most are ridiculously expensive for what
they are, around $50 IIRC.

Here's one on ebay for £5:
search ebay for item number 270110450117 - http://tinyurl.com/39ry4w
 
K

Ken Maltby

CBFalconer said:
Noozer wrote: *** top-posting fixed ***

I don't know just how the mouse transmits direction. It may be via
pulse sign, or via pulse phase (wrt other pulse). You will have to
investigate. If by sign, you may be able to trade two wires,
depending on handedness.

Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed
with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all
irrelevant material. See the following links:

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I use a Microsoft Trackball currently, but still have plenty of
Logitech Marble trackballs around. Both the MS IntelliPoint
and Logitech software have Orientation setting. It's just a
wizard under "Activities" for the MS. I seem to remember the
Logitech software having more user options for that feature.

Luck;
Ken
 
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CBFalconer

Ken said:
I use a Microsoft Trackball currently, but still have plenty of
Logitech Marble trackballs around. Both the MS IntelliPoint
and Logitech software have Orientation setting. It's just a
wizard under "Activities" for the MS. I seem to remember the
Logitech software having more user options for that feature.

And please do not fail to snip inappropriate quoted material,
especially including sig lines.

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GT

Does anyone know of any utilities that would let me change the
I use a Microsoft Trackball currently, but still have plenty of
Logitech Marble trackballs around. Both the MS IntelliPoint
and Logitech software have Orientation setting. It's just a
wizard under "Activities" for the MS. I seem to remember the
Logitech software having more user options for that feature.

My activities tab has just got "double-click speed" and "clicklock"
settings, but there is a gap at the bottom of the dialog where they may have
added more features in later releases. I have MS IntelliPoint driver version
5.0.174.0.
 
K

kony

I use a Microsoft Trackball currently, but still have plenty of
Logitech Marble trackballs around. Both the MS IntelliPoint
and Logitech software have Orientation setting. It's just a
wizard under "Activities" for the MS. I seem to remember the
Logitech software having more user options for that feature.


I don't know where you're seeing that feature in the
Logitech software, but it may only be in certain versions.

I rechecked Setpoint 3.1, it doesn't have the setting for a
regular mouse it detects. I checked a different system with
Logitech Mouseware v 9.79.025 and it doesn't have it either.
Closest thing to orientation is only the ability to swap the
left & right click buttons' functions.
 
R

Richard Brooks

Noozer said the following on 18/04/07 08:43:
Does anyone know of any utilities that would let me change the orientation
of my mouse?

I would like Left-Right movements to become Down-Up movements, and vice
versa.

My mouse is a Dell optical mouse and it appears to be a Logitech design.

Maybe this might help ?
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?c...e=downloads/software&CRID=1793&contentid=6003>
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/d...ID=1793,contentid=6003,OSID=1,softwareid=6819>

I got the links from this article;
<http://snarfed.org/space/invert mouse in Beyond Good & Evil>

HTH!


Richard.
 
Q

Quaoar

Noozer said:
Carpal tunnel...

It helps to place the mouse on my desk between me and my keyboard.
Unfortunatley, it leaves my hand and he mouse at 90 degrees to normal.

I routinely use my mouse rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise without
any changes in the horizontal/vertical orientations. The key is to not
look at your mouse; your hand-eye coordination will adapt quickly as
long as you do not look at your hand on the mouse.

Q
 
P

PCblues

try using a trackball instead...it will get some getting used to, but
it will relieve some of the stress.
 
N

Noozer

Grinder said:
I suppose, if nothing else, you could swap the mechanical connections in
the mouse...

Unfortunately, this is at my station at work. Can't go hacking stuff apart
here.

: )
 
N

Noozer

GT said:
I have a feeling that Logitech drivers have a feature to change the mouse
orientation, but I only have microsoft mice here. Have you looked for
newer (Logitech) drivers for your mouse's serial number?

I know I've seen the feature in Logitech drivers, but not in current
drivers. I'm going to try and find some older drivers and see what I can do.
 
N

Noozer

PCblues said:
try using a trackball instead...it will get some getting used to, but
it will relieve some of the stress.

Thanks, but I've tried them and I just can't get used to them. Same with
touchpads.
 

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