CD ROM shows no DATA

J

Jay

I have a CD ROM that will not display any data. Doesn't matter if its
a burnt disc or a music disc from the store. It sees the disc but
displays 0 bytes.
I have replaced the System Board, replaced the CD ROM drive.
I have reinstalled Roxio, ran Adaware, uninstalled useless software.
This is a Dell D600 Latitude running XP SP1
Any suggestions?
 
M

MayDay

Jay said:
I have a CD ROM that will not display any data. Doesn't matter if its
a burnt disc or a music disc from the store. It sees the disc but
displays 0 bytes.
I have replaced the System Board, replaced the CD ROM drive.
I have reinstalled Roxio, ran Adaware, uninstalled useless software.
This is a Dell D600 Latitude running XP SP1
Any suggestions?

Try replacing the Data cable to the CD-ROM.
 
J

Jim

Jay said:
I have a CD ROM that will not display any data. Doesn't matter if its
a burnt disc or a music disc from the store. It sees the disc but
displays 0 bytes.
I have replaced the System Board, replaced the CD ROM drive.
I have reinstalled Roxio, ran Adaware, uninstalled useless software.
This is a Dell D600 Latitude running XP SP1
Any suggestions?
Is this the result you get when you access the drive properties? Or, is it
the result you get when you tell Drag to Disk to display drive properties?

What happens when you tell Drag to Disk to display disk contents? What
happens when you open the disk in Windows Explorer?

Jim
 
J

Jim

Jay said:
I have a CD ROM that will not display any data. Doesn't matter if its
a burnt disc or a music disc from the store. It sees the disc but
displays 0 bytes.
I have replaced the System Board, replaced the CD ROM drive.
I have reinstalled Roxio, ran Adaware, uninstalled useless software.
This is a Dell D600 Latitude running XP SP1
Any suggestions?
Is this the result you get when you access the drive properties? Or, is it
the result you get when you tell Drag to Disk to display drive properties?

What happens when you tell Drag to Disk to display disk contents? What
happens when you open the disk in Windows Explorer?

Jim
 
J

Jim

Jay said:
I have a CD ROM that will not display any data. Doesn't matter if its
a burnt disc or a music disc from the store. It sees the disc but
displays 0 bytes.
I have replaced the System Board, replaced the CD ROM drive.
I have reinstalled Roxio, ran Adaware, uninstalled useless software.
This is a Dell D600 Latitude running XP SP1
Any suggestions?
Is this the result you get when you access the drive properties? Or, is it
the result you get when you tell Drag to Disk to display drive properties?

What happens when you tell Drag to Disk to display disk contents? What
happens when you open the disk in Windows Explorer?

Jim
 
J

Jim

Jim said:
Is this the result you get when you access the drive properties? Or, is
it the result you get when you tell Drag to Disk to display drive
properties?

What happens when you tell Drag to Disk to display disk contents? What
happens when you open the disk in Windows Explorer?

Jim
Sorry for the multiple posts. OE said it was having trouble posting to the
server. Alas, OE was wrong.
Jim
 
J

Jim

Jay said:
I have a CD ROM that will not display any data. Doesn't matter if its
a burnt disc or a music disc from the store. It sees the disc but
displays 0 bytes.
I have replaced the System Board, replaced the CD ROM drive.
I have reinstalled Roxio, ran Adaware, uninstalled useless software.
This is a Dell D600 Latitude running XP SP1
Any suggestions?
I just loaded a music disk into the CD drive on this computer. As you said,
Windows reports 0 bytes.
However, a listing of the folders on the disk show several.
In addition, the disk plays as usual.

I conclude that what you see is normal behaviour. Evidently, Windows cannot
compute the size of files, if any, on a device that uses CDFS.

Jim
 
J

Jay

Travis, I can't replace the data cable because there is none.
Jim, it doesn't matter how I view the contents, I get the same result.
Jim, how did you view a listing of folders and get the CD to work?
Unfortunately, I have to figure out the exact cause and resolve this.
Any other ideas?
 
J

Jim

Jay said:
Travis, I can't replace the data cable because there is none.
Jim, it doesn't matter how I view the contents, I get the same result.
Jim, how did you view a listing of folders and get the CD to work?
I have loaded a music CD in my drive.
I view in My Computer
Mouse over the drive shows total size 0 bytes free space 0 bytes
Left click on the drive shows 12 cda files (one for each track) size of
files 1 kb; however XP cannot return the size of the space used for the
music
I open the disk in Windows Media Player, and it starts playing.
I haven't compared a music disk to a data disk, but if I did I would use
Roxio Drag to Disk.
Jim
 
J

Jim

Jim said:
I have loaded a music CD in my drive.
I view in My Computer
Mouse over the drive shows total size 0 bytes free space 0 bytes
Left click on the drive shows 12 cda files (one for each track) size of
files 1 kb; however XP cannot return the size of the space used for the
music
I open the disk in Windows Media Player, and it starts playing.
I haven't compared a music disk to a data disk, but if I did I would use
Roxio Drag to Disk.
Jim
OK, here is how my computers report things:

Music CD 0 bytes used 0 bytes free. A directory list of a typical music CD
shows one file per track which consumes 44 bytes. If XP is reporting used
space in units of MB, then 12 times 44 could round down to 0 MB.

Data CD actual MB used actual MB free

Video CD actual MB used 0 bytes free
This last example is clearly incorrect as we know that a CD contains more
than 319 MB...

DVDs seem to report used and free space correctly.

From this I conclude that what the OP observed is expected behavior. Now,
if the OP's system cannot access the drive, that is a different matter and
is unlikely to be related to the reported results.

Jim
 
M

MayDay

Jay said:
Travis, I can't replace the data cable because there is none.
Jim, it doesn't matter how I view the contents, I get the same result.
Jim, how did you view a listing of folders and get the CD to work?
Unfortunately, I have to figure out the exact cause and resolve this.
Any other ideas?

What do you mean there is no data cable?
 
J

Jim

MayDay said:
What do you mean there is no data cable?
There is no audio cable (SPDIF ?) cable on my Dell descktop. I don't
believe that there is one on my Dell laptop. Instead, the audio data gets
transmitted over the IDE cable, but this facility must be enabled in the
driver.

I wonder if the OP has enabled sending audio data via the interface cable?
If there is no audio cable, and the OP has not setup this method, then there
will be no way for audio to get to the sound card.
Jim
 
M

MayDay

Jim said:
There is no audio cable (SPDIF ?) cable on my Dell descktop. I don't
believe that there is one on my Dell laptop. Instead, the audio data gets
transmitted over the IDE cable, but this facility must be enabled in the
driver.

I wonder if the OP has enabled sending audio data via the interface cable?
If there is no audio cable, and the OP has not setup this method, then there
will be no way for audio to get to the sound card.
Jim

I was talking about the IDE cable.
 
L

Lester Stiefel

Jay said:
Travis, there is no data cable because the cdrom slides directly into
the systemboard.

This system is a Laptop/Notebook PC. Devices are IDE but
plug directly into system board (save for HDD, which may be
an SATA)
 
M

MayDay

Lester said:
This system is a Laptop/Notebook PC. Devices are IDE but plug directly
into system board (save for HDD, which may be an SATA)

I didn't catch that it was a laptop. My bad.
 

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