CD Printing on iP4000 - no workie...

B

BD

Hey, all.

Trying to print CDs on my new iP4000.

I went through the process of popping off the bracket on the upper tray
to clear a path for the CD tray.

I then went onto that 'allhyper' site, and went through all the
button-press jazz to enable the CD printing functionality. Followed the
instructions carefully. As expected, the color of the model number
changed color in the status page. So that was good.

Then I did a driver reinstall. I *may* have a problem here, as I _hate_
bloatware, and don't want to install unneccessary print software unless
it's truly needed. So when I first installed the driver, I didn't use
the setup app on the CD; rather, I grabbed the latest version off
Canon's site and used that. Hence, I had no way to "uninstall" the
driver; I just deleted the printer from the printers window.

I then reinstalled from the download - but this time I used the
setup.exe, rather than letting Windows ask me where the driver files
were. So I _believe_ everything was overwritten.

Anyway.

Current status:
I get a checkbox in the config page of the driver, to automatically
detect a CD when it's inserted. I checked that box.

Put a disk in the tray, and slid it in until the arrows lined up. I
noticed that I could push the tray in further, but it would just bap
into the white rollers inside the printer. Whatever.

I then went into Acoustica and tried to do a test print: I saw nothing
in the 'Source' selectors which suggested the CD Tray (not sure if I
_should_), so I went into the 'media type' selector and picked the
ip4000 CD tray from there.

No go. Printer flashes yellow about 5 times, then green Yellow 5 times,
then green. Eventually it times out and fails.

Something ain't right.

-tray is inserted correctly
-driver is reinstalled (I hope)
-printer has CD print enabled - evidenced by the color change of the
lettering on the status page.

I haven't found a whole buttload of resources on this topic, so I
figured before I spun my wheels for too long, I'd see if anything was
glaringly apparent to those who've done this a few times. ;)

Thanks for any suggestions.

BD
 
Z

zakezuke

BD said:
Hey, all.

Trying to print CDs on my new iP4000.

I went through the process of popping off the bracket on the upper tray
to clear a path for the CD tray.

I then went onto that 'allhyper' site, and went through all the
button-press jazz to enable the CD printing functionality. Followed the
instructions carefully. As expected, the color of the model number
changed color in the status page. So that was good.

Then I did a driver reinstall. I *may* have a problem here, as I _hate_
bloatware, and don't want to install unneccessary print software unless
it's truly needed. So when I first installed the driver, I didn't use
the setup app on the CD; rather, I grabbed the latest version off
Canon's site and used that. Hence, I had no way to "uninstall" the
driver; I just deleted the printer from the printers window.

I then reinstalled from the download - but this time I used the
setup.exe, rather than letting Windows ask me where the driver files
were. So I _believe_ everything was overwritten.

Anyway.

Current status:
I get a checkbox in the config page of the driver, to automatically
detect a CD when it's inserted. I checked that box.

Put a disk in the tray, and slid it in until the arrows lined up. I
noticed that I could push the tray in further, but it would just bap
into the white rollers inside the printer. Whatever.

I then went into Acoustica and tried to do a test print: I saw nothing
in the 'Source' selectors which suggested the CD Tray (not sure if I
_should_), so I went into the 'media type' selector and picked the
ip4000 CD tray from there.

No go. Printer flashes yellow about 5 times, then green Yellow 5 times,
then green. Eventually it times out and fails.

Something ain't right.

-tray is inserted correctly
-driver is reinstalled (I hope)
-printer has CD print enabled - evidenced by the color change of the
lettering on the status page.

I haven't found a whole buttload of resources on this topic, so I
figured before I spun my wheels for too long, I'd see if anything was
glaringly apparent to those who've done this a few times. ;)

Thanks for any suggestions.

You really should download a copy of CD-label print from the allhyper
site. If not there then here
http://cmtw.canon.com.tw/service/upload/driver/00000227/CD-LabelPrint .Win.V1.0.2_E.exe

It automaticly trips the tray size "Tray type B" and Media type :
"printable disc" Paper source "Disc tray" All troubleshooting should
be done from there. However, given the nature of your error, I can
think of two likely possiblilities.

#1: Printer not set for CD printing.
While you may have followed the steps, it's common enough for people to
not click power to resume normal operation. They might press power for
a long time to turn it off, unplug or do something else odd. Repeat
the steps.

Test the printer's ability to print onto CDs by pressing [resume] 7
times Here are the steps from beginging to end. You'll note
additional button presses not listed on knightcrawler's site.

------------------
1) Make sure printer is off and is plugged in
2) Hold down [RESUME] (Triangle pointed down) hold down [POWER] and
wait.
3) Release [RESUME] but Continue to hold [POWER]. Double click
[RESUME]. Release [POWER].
4) Check to see you are in service mode by clicking [RESUME], than
[POWER]. This should cause the printer to print a simple diagnostic
that'll list it's ROM number and list CDR SENSOR=OK in red for the last
line, whether the printer is set to US or not. pressing [RESUME] twice
then [POWER] will print the ROM info. Note the color of "iPxxx (LTR)
V1.xx". Non-CDR support should be cyan. Keep this sheet to compare to
the one after the you change the settings.
5) Click the [RESUME] 5 times then click [POWER]. This is the
Destination setting option. [orange]
6)Pick a destination. Press [RESUME] 5 times for "not japan CD-R
support enabled".
7) Press [POWER] to make the choice.
8) Press [RESUME] then [POWER] again. This should cause the same test
with ROM information but this time the "iPxxx (LTR) V1.xx" should
be pink. See Fig-4-1.
9) [optional] Press [RESUME] 7 times then [POWER] to perform a test
print onto a printable CD-R
10) Press [POWER] by it self to resume normal operation.
------

Step #9 requires a printable disc be in the tray, and this should print
some cross hairs and X and Y denoting horizontal and vertical. This
will check that you enabled the feature on the printer, and your tray
is working well.

#2: Registry not set for CD printing.

A reinstall of the driver shouldn't be required. Knightcrawler put
that step in there because it was much more simple than telling someone
to poke in their registry.
<start>[run]"regedit"
Look in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Print\Printers\Canon
PIXMA iP4000\PrinterDriverData
Second option "CnmFSI_CDRSWITCH". The trully lazy use regedit's
[edit][find]"CnmFSI_CDRSWITCH" This should be set to 1. Besure to hit
f3 to make sure there isn't another pixma installed.

#3: Test with CD-label print. It's was retrofit for that printer and
that driver, and trips all the correct options. Acoustica the first
time around doesn't set Tray type B, Printable disc reccomended, nor
that other option I listed priviously.
 
B

BD

it's common enough for people to not click power to resume normal operation.

Mm. Pretty sure I did it right, but we'll see. I'll 'redo' that if all
else fails.

Thanks!
 
M

measekite

It is apparent when you go around company patents and copyrights one has
the kind of problems listed below.
 
B

BD

It is apparent when you go around company patents and copyrights one has
the kind of problems listed below.

What the heck was that? Sounded like a toilet flushing... OH, it's YOU!
;-)

To the front - SALUTE!
 
Z

zakezuke

measekite said <snipped per request>:

This is another totally unhelpful reply from measekite. Firstly,
Canon's copyright is not being violated, nor are any of Canon's
patents. If it's a tray type B it's purchaced from Canon directly. If
it's home made, well, canon does not hold any patents on cardboard.

The only patent which is being "violated" is the Philips patent on CDs,
and the people who are not paying royalities to Philips is Canon. But
this is between Canon and Philips and has nothing to do what so ever
with the end user, save the fact the feature is not enabled. It's easy
enough to enable, and they were willing to sell the tray. They offer
the software and 3rd parties support it, so no big deal. Should canon
decide to sell these trays again for a small premium I'd certainly buy
one. Philips can get their royalities, Canon can get customers who are
unhappy with their epsons, everyone wins, well, except measekite who
will have one less thing to complain about.
 
B

BD

#3: Test with CD-label print. It's was retrofit for that printer and
that driver, and trips all the correct options. Acoustica the first
time around doesn't set Tray type B, Printable disc reccomended, nor
that other option I listed priviously.

Works fine with CD-Label Print. *yay*.

I'll work with that for now.

In Acoustica, as you suggest, the Tray type B option does not appear.
Not sure why yet, but I will work with the Canon app and maybe do a
reinstall of Acoustica down the road.

Thanks!!
 
Z

zakezuke

BD said:
Works fine with CD-Label Print. *yay*.

I'll work with that for now.

In Acoustica, as you suggest, the Tray type B option does not appear.
Not sure why yet, but I will work with the Canon app and maybe do a
reinstall of Acoustica down the road.

Acoustica works, and works well, but as I said the first time you have
to set all three options in properties starting with

Media type: Printable Disc

This should automaticly set the next setting

Paper source "Disc tray"

Then under page setup you need to set the following, which is not
automaticly set.

Page Size "CD-R B" [look right after 5x7]

Sorry I had to repeat the instruction block, I could not recall the
specific error and I don't have my ip3000 anymore. But given that CD
label print works, and I KNOW acoustica works but doesn't automaticly
set all three options for you, I suspect that you have not set the
printer to print on the correct media type. On this issue, you can
blame canon for their funky arse menus and not thinking it's a good
idea to automaticly set paper size to CD-R tray B when you select
printable disc.
 
B

BD

Sorry I had to repeat the instruction block,

Oh hey - the more info the better. I hate asking people to reiterate
stuff that's documented somewhere, but...

And, well, it is Saturday morning. I don't expect much intellect from
myself at this time of the day. Sometimes I need to be talked to like
I'm 5 years old. ;-)

So, thanks very much, Acoustica's working. Now all I need to do is
waste 5 or 6 disks getting the alignment right, and I should be in
bizniss.

Gracias!!
 
M

Mapanari

Hey, all.

Trying to print CDs on my new iP4000.

I went through the process of popping off the bracket on the upper tray
to clear a path for the CD tray.
BD

You do know that all canon printer software has the cd-tray b printing option
already in their software that you installed, but won't activate until the
actuall unit has been re-coded by those series of steps that read about in
the eprom in the machine?

When you first load it up (I use Accoustica also and will never use anything
else in my lifetime!) you have to hunt for the options in the long list of:

1. Paper
2. Feed options.

If you went through the recoding properly, it should be there. I didn't even
have to reboot.

I've done this twice btw..


hth

mapi
 

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