CD file name length

[Philip K.]

Windows XP copy and my free Nero software truncate CD file names to 64
characters. Is this a limitation of the CD format or is there software
which will copy file names longer than 64 characters to a CD?

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Windows XP copy and my free Nero software truncate CD file names to 64
characters. Is this a limitation of the CD format or is there
software which will copy file names longer than 64 characters to a CD?

Nero?
Under the ISO tab when burning, check the "Allow more than 64 characters for
Joliet names" checkbox...

 

[Philip K.]

1. Checking "allowing more than 255 characters,etc," in Nero version 5.5
does no good and the XP copy routines have nothing to check. Do you know
for certain if the latest NERO allows file names longer than 64 characters.
2. What is the nonsense in the addendum about "as is", research, and jumping
with both feet? Do you have an answer or not?

 

[Steve N.]

Windows XP copy and my free Nero software truncate CD file names to 64
characters. Is this a limitation of the CD format or is there software
which will copy file names longer than 64 characters to a CD?

It's a limitation of CDFS (Compact Disc File System) which is also
limited to 8 directory levels.

Steve

 

[Steve N.]

Nero?
Under the ISO tab when burning, check the "Allow more than 64 characters for
Joliet names" checkbox...

The CDFS is limited to 64 character filename/pathname lengths and 8
directory levels. How can Nero overcome that limit and the result still
be CDFS?

Steve

 

[Philip K.]

1. Thanks Steve. Now I know why this is happening. 2. Someone should tell
Web programmers to limit their *.htm titles to less than 64 characters.
I've lost a lot of *.htm files that I thought I had backed up.

 

[Plato]

1. Thanks Steve. Now I know why this is happening. 2. Someone should tell
Web programmers to limit their *.htm titles to less than 64 characters.
I've lost a lot of *.htm files that I thought I had backed up.

Grin. I agree that often folks get carried away with long filenames. All
my work including my webpages are still done in 8+3 for simplicity. Yes,
I'm sorta at the limit now ie being unable to include as much info as I
need in a filename to make the description understandable to me later
on. Still, if I doubled that 16 characters would still be enough for me
perhaps for the next 5-10 years.

Makes things easier to read when your filenames dont go off the right
side of the window.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Pre-answer:
Use the UDF format. Or Romeo.

Windows XP copy and my free Nero software truncate CD file names to
64 characters. Is this a limitation of the CD format or is there
software which will copy file names longer than 64 characters to a
CD?

Nero?
Under the ISO tab when burning, check the "Allow more than 64
characters for Joliet names" checkbox...

1. Checking "allowing more than 255 characters,etc," in Nero version
5.5 does no good and the XP copy routines have nothing to check. Do
you know for certain if the latest NERO allows file names longer than
64 characters.

Checking (researching on my own as a volunteer for you) I found this:

http://ww2.nero.com/us/FAQs_Nero5.html#22
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22. Are Romeo or RockRidge formats supported by Nero 5?
We are sorry to inform you that Nero Burning ROM 5.5x and Nero Express 5.5x
(and earlier versions) only support the Joliet format, not Romeo or
RockRidge.

You are limited to the 64 character standard allowed by the Joliet format.
The only way to avoid this limitation is to use our InCD software.

Important note
Nero 6, however has an option to relax Joliet restrictions and allow files
and directories with names larger than 64 characters.
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Which is further clarified here:
http://ww2.nero.com/us/FAQs_Data_CD.html#10
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10. Why can I not achieve a filename longer than 64 characters?

You are limited to the Joliet file format which only supports up to 64
characters for filenames.

We have an option in Nero to relax the ISO 9660 restrictions, but this is
only referring to the full path of the files location. For example:
C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero Burning Rom\Nero.exe is only 7 characters long
as a file, but uses 50 characters for the full path.

The Joliet file system allows filenames with up to 64 Unicode characters
only. The ISO Level 1 file system allows filenames in 8+3 format and the
Level 2 with up to 31 ISO characters. Currently there is no way to store
filenames with more than 64 characters on an ISO or Joliet CD.

Longer filenames are possible with UDF file system as it is supported by
InCD.
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All of that basically says that if you REALLY want to make a CD with
filenames longer than 64 characters, ou must use the UDF file system.
Although this guy seems to disagree:

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57580
and
http://computing.net/cgi-bin/printer.pl?127580|windowsxp

There is also an interesting discussion going on here:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t4702.html

This is one of the (many) reasons for my signature below, because you might
not know what the UDF file system is nor its consequences..

What is it?
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/U/Universal_Disk_Format.html


I'll let you research that and the Romeo format as well from here..

2. What is the nonsense in the addendum about "as is", research, and
jumping with both feet? Do you have an answer or not?

It's that whole idea that perhaps the poster might want to:

a. Verify any answer they get.
b. Know what they are doing before they apply any answer they get to see how
it might affect their system.
c. Might want to be able to resolve their own issues in the future, thus
learn to use the same tools the volunteers here do to resolve their issues.
d. I'm not responsible for your decisions - I am reminding you who is.

 

[Steve N.]

1. Thanks Steve. Now I know why this is happening. 2. Someone should tell
Web programmers to limit their *.htm titles to less than 64 characters.
I've lost a lot of *.htm files that I thought I had backed up.

1. You're welcome Philip. Most users don't realize that there is a
difference when using CDFS. Hey, at least CDFS isn't limited to 8.3
format and is a very usable file system. Quite convenient, in fact.

2. You have a voice. Express yourself where it will matter to you. Talk
to them yourself.

Steve

 

[Richard Urban]

That is standard add-on he has chosen for his signature. You can see below
what mine is. It is not necessarily aimed at you, but as they say - if the
shoe fits..................

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Philip K.]

On the same subject.
Is there a way to rescue truncated *.htm files since the data seems to be
intact. The *.htm file just does not know how to access the corresponding
image folder. (Well, a way other than trial and error pasting of images
into a word processor.)

 

[David Candy]

I think he was saving pages, which use the page's title as the default name.

Like this page

C:\Documents and Settings\David Candy\My Documents\Contents Volume VI - The Australian Imperial Force in France May 1918 - the Armistice (1st edition, 1942).html

saved from

http://www.awm.gov.au/histories/ww1/6/index.asp

 

[Steve N.]

On the same subject.
Is there a way to rescue truncated *.htm files since the data seems to be
intact. The *.htm file just does not know how to access the corresponding
image folder. (Well, a way other than trial and error pasting of images
into a word processor.)

You'll have to edit the links in the html doc to point to the trucated
filenames.

Steve