Capturing full Drive space after W2k instal


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Sam

Looks like I have a problem here. I have a 1560gig HD onto which I
have installed W2k. Thinkling I understood the LBA issue, I made
partitions before the install. Then went thru with the install; did
the SP4 and SP4 rollup 1 updates. Added the Enable BigLba refgistry
entry.

BUT still can not see the entire drive space. Originally made 4
partitions with the W2k install, C=15gig, D=10g, E=15g, F=15g. Free
space showed up as 73gig.

So guess I did something wrong. Maybe making the extra 3 partitions
messed up the future calculation of an accurate frre space for the
full drive.

Is there any way to recover from this and get back my full drive
space? Other than starting over?? Hate to go thruagain all the
hours of installs I just did.

btw the system does see the full 160gigs on another drive I connected
thru a usb adapter. So that makes me thing I did the LBA thing
correctly. Just that I messed up on the main drive.

thanks
Sam
 
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Dave Patrick

When you start up try entering cmos setup and verify that the disk size is
correctly identified.


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Sam

David,
Thanks for your reply.

I have checked the CMOS on boot and it does report the correct drive
size,

And I went ahead and removed the last 3 of the partitions which I
created at install. The install had made them logical drives. So I
also removed the extended partition in which these 3 were made.

But still the OS does not recognize the full 160 gigs. Sorry for the
previous drive size typo. The drive in question is a 160gig WD IDE
drive.

Sam

Dave Patrick
 
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Sam

Andy,
Thanks for your reply.

To test the LBA again, I put another 160 in as drive 1 and it is
recognized as correctly.

So the problem seems to be centered on the W2k settings for the drive
0 with the OS on it.

Sam
 
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Sam

This has gotten overly frustrating.

I'm looking at making a slipstream cd with SP4 on it. But so far the
instructions I've found seem not to be sufficient. So am not sure how
far that will get.

Plus I end up with a W2k which still needs all teh updates since SP4.
That should get me an OS with LBA included. But I will still be many
updates away from a completely up to date W2k.

Is there a way to find all teh W2k updates and make just one complete
Slipstreamed CD?

And as it may appear I am close to blowing this install away and
starting over.

Help is appreciated.

Sam
 
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Dave Patrick

It won't help. The regedit still must be applied as per the article.


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Sam

It won't help. The regedit still must be applied as per the article.
David,

Thanks for getting back to me on this.

Are you saying that slipstreaming in SP4 will still not let W2k see
the full 160gigs when I start the install?

But that it will only see the 160gig after I change the registry entry
after install of the slipstream is completed?

If that is so then, it would seem that I should only make 1 partition
the size I want it to be for the OS. And leave the rest of the drive
unpartitioned?

Reading the LBA document seemed to say that the OS would find the rest
of the drive after the SP4 and the registry change were made. From
that I am thinking that I messed that up when I made 4 partitions
instead of making only just the one (first) partition for the OS,
right?

Sam
 
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Sam

Thanks for trying to help.

Well tried making a bootable slipstream SP4 CD/
After two tries that did not boot, gave up on that for now.

Have cleaned out the 160g boot drive. And reinstalled the W2k from the
original MS cd (sp2 one). But with ONLY the 1 partition made for the
OS.

It installed ok. Loaded minimum programs to operate it, Mbd drivers,
video drivers, and file handler.

Then did the SP4 update package. Did the LBA registry change.
Robooted.and Disk Management now sees the entire 160g drive (149.05
gig). Will go ahead and create the rest of machine tomorrow.

But I still would like to know more about slipstreaming and how to et
all the updates available for this good old W2k OS.

Is there a way to get all the updates downloaded and just do one
massive install of all of them?

Sam
 
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Dave Patrick

See inline comments.


Sam said:
David,

Thanks for getting back to me on this.

Are you saying that slipstreaming in SP4 will still not let W2k see
the full 160gigs when I start the install?
* Yes
But that it will only see the 160gig after I change the registry entry
after install of the slipstream is completed?
* Correct again
If that is so then, it would seem that I should only make 1 partition
the size I want it to be for the OS. And leave the rest of the drive
unpartitioned?
* Yes, that's what I would do.
Reading the LBA document seemed to say that the OS would find the rest
of the drive after the SP4 and the registry change were made. From
that I am thinking that I messed that up when I made 4 partitions
instead of making only just the one (first) partition for the OS,
right?
* Yes, you've got it.

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Dave Patrick

These articles may help.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290074
http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2000_xp_sp_slipstreaming.htm


Also my standard boiler plate;
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To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver
for your drive controller in drive "A")

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en
and
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS08-067.mspx



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Acc7

David,

Thanks for your follow up on this. The machine is running and waiting
for me to get the other programs installed. Have always liked W2k,
even though it is getting to be an antique. So it's good to get this
next one running.

Now for the remaining issues:

Is there a nice list of all the updates fro W2k since SP4 and the SP4
rollup?

Is there a way to get all these together and do just one "massive
update? Or should they get grouped in some sort of order?

It is looking like for future retention of what ever little sanity I
have, that the best way to be able to rebuild a machine will be to
image the OS and program parts of the drive. Then just restore that
image, right?

I can use Terabyte or Acronis for that, I would guess. But I would be
saving particular partitions, OS & programs. Which does not
necessarily get me the mbr saved or the overall partition structure.

How would you suggest I approach that? Ideally I would have a
duplicate drive on the shelf, but .... backups do require fewer
"spare" drives. And each drive mates with only the specific type of
motherboard.

btw For this project, I am working with a modest number of older
machines. I am finally getting my all 5 OC'd AMD XP systems all
running at the same time and spreading out some of my more intensive
tasks to specific machines. 3 Mbd types involved and of course with
different chipsets. The good news is that I still have my original
CD's and licenses. The bad news seems to be that the updates are
substantial.

thanks
Sam
 
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Acc7

This one should cover the updates.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

David,

Unfortunately that link has given me only a lot of errors. IS there a
better one?

1) it seems to be accessible only thru IE.

2) it needs a lot of active X and even though I did go ahead and allow
everything it wanted, still I get errors.

I allowed active X thru the router, thru the firewall and in IE
internet options for my IE6 for the sites one of the error pages said
I had to. But no difference.

And to make things a bit scary, my Outpost firewall is reporting that
IE is using chqnged components. Since I never use IE, that was not
too surprising. But it has continued and now it seems that IE needs a
component from my "eraser" program.

At that point I stopped it entirely. Am wondering if allowing the
sites requested and allowing Active X for them, that I have now gotten
this machine infected.

concerned
Sam
 
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Acc7

Andy said:
Run Belarc Advisor. It will provide a list of hotfixes, installed and
missing.

The easiest way to get updated is to connect to the internet and let
Windows 2000 update itself.
Belarc is a definite.

But with having to do 5 of these machines to do, I was hoping to find
a simple approach which I could just put on a cd or dvd or on a thumb
drive and get the OS up to peak quickly.

I'd thought that slip streaming would let me do this but the examples
I've seen so far onkly seem to deal with SP4. And there are a number
of updates since then.

But Windows Update is not really what I have in mind. For one thing,
I'd still be dependent on it again if I had to do another reinstall.
Better to have everything here locally and ready to go if needed.

thanks
Sam
 

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