Canon Pixma ip4000 CD printing

[John B]

I am considering buying a Canon Pixma ip4000 printer, particularly for the
CD / DVD printing facility. So far I have been printing separate labels
using the Nero Cover Designer software. Is it possible to use this software
to print directly onto the disc with this printer using the dedicated
cradle, or has the supplied Canon Easy-PhotoPrint software to be used?

Also, is there any way of using the Canon software to print all the way to
the hub, using suitable full face printable discs? The Canon software I have
seen demonstrated leaves a large diameter non-printed area in the middle.

Thank you,

John B.

 

[S.V. Groeneveld]

I am considering buying a Canon Pixma ip4000 printer, particularly for
the
CD / DVD printing facility. So far I have been printing separate labels
using the Nero Cover Designer software. Is it possible to use this
software
to print directly onto the disc with this printer using the dedicated
cradle, or has the supplied Canon Easy-PhotoPrint software to be used?

Also, is there any way of using the Canon software to print all the way
to the hub, using suitable full face printable discs? The Canon software
I have seen demonstrated leaves a large diameter non-printed area in the
middle.

The IP4000 is an excellent printer, and it prints on CD's flawlessly using
Nero Cover Designer... (I didn't like Canon's own CD printing software
either). Just make sure you use the right (Canon) ink, and special
*printable* discs.

I'll repeat what I posted a month ago. As you see the hole diameter is
configurable in step 6 of creating the template, so that answers all of
your questions...

Create the new template:

1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File -> Paper Stocks
2) In the list select 'User-defined Stocks' and press the 'Add Stock'
button
3) Give the new stock a nice name, eg. "CD-Tray PIXMA 4000"
4) Set width = 131.0mm, height = 238.7mm (got these from Printer
Preferences dialog)
5) Press the 'Add Item' button and select 'Label'
6) Set outer radius = 59.0mm, inner radius = 22.0mm (or 11.0mm for a small
hole in the middle)
7) Set position X = 6.5mm, Y = 87.0mm

Print onto disc:

1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File -> New and select any disc template
(this is not the one created above)
2) Select the tab "Disk 1"
3) Choose your freshly created paper format from the drop-down box on top
4) Now paint your cover...
5) Goto File -> Print
6) On tab 'Elements' unselect the things you don't want
7) On tab 'General' press the 'Setup' button, and choose PIXMA 4000
'Properties'
8) On tab 'Main', set Media type to "Printable disc (recommended)" (this
will also select "Disc tray" as paper source)
9) On tab 'Page Setup', set Page size to "CD-R tray B"
10) OK, OK, OK

 

[John B]

Many thanks. I could not wish for a better, and prompt, answer! All I have
to do now is order my new IP4000 and get printing.

Thanks again.

John B.

 

[Emrys Davies]

Everyone, it seems, is praising the Canon Pixma ip4000, without giving
the Canon Pixma ip5000 a mention. This surprises me.

I do not possess either, but I am interested. Is it just the price?

Would someone kindly explain please.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

 

[S.V. Groeneveld]

Everyone, it seems, is praising the Canon Pixma ip4000, without giving
the Canon Pixma ip5000 a mention. This surprises me.

I do not possess either, but I am interested. Is it just the price?

Would someone kindly explain please.

Can you tell us which extra's the IP5000 has to offer?
Hmm, maybe I don't want to know this, since I already have the IP4000, and
am very satisfied with it

 

[John B]

The main difference with the ip5000 is the droplet size and resolution. The
ip4000 has 4800 x 1200 with 2 picolitre droplet size, but the ip5000 has
9600 x 2400 resolution with 1 picolitre droplet size! What visible
difference this makes I don't know, but did read somewhere that one reviewer
thought the ip 4000 better. Best have a look for reviews about both. The
ip5000 is somewhat more expensive. There is also a ip4000R that includes
built in WiFi connectivity.

Hope this helps.

John B.

 

[measekite]

I have an IP4000.  I think it is great.  In some respects I wish I had an IP5000.  I have seen one result from it and it was fantastic but I have never seen any direct comparisons.  In other words the same photo using the same paper.  Canon does not seem to want to provide that.

The printer is $40.00 more; not enough to not to buy it if the end result is more than marginal.  However, while 2 picoliter print heads have been out for a long time (the entire i series), the 1 picoliter print head is new.  While I have not heard any negative reports I would be concerned about print head clogging; especially if you do not print photos frequently.

I ask myself why in their narrow carriage flagship model, the ip8500, did Canon not use the 1 picoliter engine instead opting for the proven 2 picoliter setup.  Maybe they are field testing using their customers and the testers.  I do not know.

I would like to see the replacement for the i9900 be a Pixma ip10000 with all of the features of the ip8500 plus a 1 picoliter (proven in the field) droplet size with two additional cartridges, one for high gloss and the another for a transparent protectorant.

Emrys Davies wrote:

Everyone, it seems, is praising the Canon Pixma ip4000, without giving the Canon Pixma ip5000 a mention. This surprises me. I do not possess either, but I am interested. Is it just the price? Would someone kindly explain please. Regards, Emrys Davies. "John B" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



Many thanks. I could not wish for a better, and prompt, answer! All I



have



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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:40:06 -0000, John B <[email protected]> wrote:



I am considering buying a Canon Pixma ip4000 printer, particularly



for



the CD / DVD printing facility. So far I have been printing separate



labels



using the Nero Cover Designer software. Is it possible to use this software to print directly onto the disc with this printer using the



dedicated



cradle, or has the supplied Canon Easy-PhotoPrint software to be



used?



Also, is there any way of using the Canon software to print all



the way



to the hub, using suitable full face printable discs? The Canon



software



I have seen demonstrated leaves a large diameter non-printed area



in the



middle.



The IP4000 is an excellent printer, and it prints on CD's flawlessly



using



Nero Cover Designer... (I didn't like Canon's own CD printing



software



either). Just make sure you use the right (Canon) ink, and special *printable* discs. I'll repeat what I posted a month ago. As you see the hole diameter



is



configurable in step 6 of creating the template, so that answers all



of



your questions... Create the new template: 1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File -> Paper Stocks 2) In the list select 'User-defined Stocks' and press the 'Add



Stock'



button 3) Give the new stock a nice name, eg. "CD-Tray PIXMA 4000" 4) Set width = 131.0mm, height = 238.7mm (got these from Printer Preferences dialog) 5) Press the 'Add Item' button and select 'Label' 6) Set outer radius = 59.0mm, inner radius = 22.0mm (or 11.0mm for a



small



hole in the middle) 7) Set position X = 6.5mm, Y = 87.0mm Print onto disc: 1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File -> New and select any disc



template



(this is not the one created above) 2) Select the tab "Disk 1" 3) Choose your freshly created paper format from the drop-down box



on top



4) Now paint your cover... 5) Goto File -> Print 6) On tab 'Elements' unselect the things you don't want 7) On tab 'General' press the 'Setup' button, and choose PIXMA 4000 'Properties' 8) On tab 'Main', set Media type to "Printable disc (recommended)"



(this



will also select "Disc tray" as paper source) 9) On tab 'Page Setup', set Page size to "CD-R tray B" 10) OK, OK, OK

 

[measekite]

It is identical to your ip4000 except for a 1 picoliter droplet size.
Of course there are more nozzles.

 

[S.V. Groeneveld]

It is identical to your ip4000 except for a 1 picoliter droplet size.
Of course there are more nozzles.

Pff, if that's all, there's no reason to consider the IP5000 in my opinion


I remember I had to choose between IP3000 en IP4000 when I bought mine.
And because I needed a parallel interface this choice was simple, since
the IP3000 only has a USB interface.

 

[Daniel Prince]

The IP4000 is an excellent printer, and it prints on CD's flawlessly using
Nero Cover Designer.

Is the Canon IP4000 that prints on CDs available in the USA or only
in Europe? If it is not available in the USA, is there an easy way
to modify the USA version to print on CDs? Thank you in advance for
all replies.

 

[S.V. Groeneveld]

Is the Canon IP4000 that prints on CDs available in the USA or only
in Europe? If it is not available in the USA, is there an easy way
to modify the USA version to print on CDs? Thank you in advance for
all replies.

I can only say for sure that the CD printing feature IS included in Europe
and that it is NOT in the USA, but I don't know for other parts of the
world...

Also I don't know whether the package in the US simply lacks the extra CD
tray, or that the printer is physically different so that is theoretically
impossible to print on CD...

 

[SleeperMan]

Pff, if that's all, there's no reason to consider the IP5000 in my
opinion

I remember I had to choose between IP3000 en IP4000 when I bought
mine. And because I needed a parallel interface this choice was
simple, since the IP3000 only has a USB interface.

hold on......
choosing between ip3000 and ip4000 is way bigger than between ip4000 and
ip5000, since ip3000 doesn't have extra photo black cart, which really
improve photos.
on the other side, i guess that a man can (that's can't) see the difference
between 4000 and 5000 similar as most can't hear the difference between CD
music and on encoded with high mp3 bitrate...there IS a difference, i guess,
it's just simple human eye can't really see it, so it's no use of extra
money...maybe if someone prints larger formats or similar. There's also
question of the point since ink absorbs, even just a bit, and so etends it's
size on paper. Some also have doubts about 1 pl drops and possible more
clogging problems.
It's quite interesting also how some doesn't see the difference between 4000
and one with 6 carts (or is it 7---one with extra red and green)...

 

[Caitlin]

The IP4000 is an excellent printer, and it prints on CD's flawlessly using
Nero Cover Designer... (I didn't like Canon's own CD printing software
either). Just make sure you use the right (Canon) ink, and special
*printable* discs.

I'll repeat what I posted a month ago. As you see the hole diameter is
configurable in step 6 of creating the template, so that answers all of
your questions...

* snip useful Nero Cover Designer setup instructions*

Does anyone have any similar set up instructions for Surething CD Labeller
Deluxe? I tried creating a new template but couldn't get it anywhere near
the CD. All I've managed at this stage is a workaround of creating the label
in Surething, exporting it out as a BMP and importing it into Canon's CD
printer software to print from there. A bit of a pain though.

 

[SleeperMan]

* snip useful Nero Cover Designer setup instructions*

Does anyone have any similar set up instructions for Surething CD
Labeller Deluxe? I tried creating a new template but couldn't get it
anywhere near the CD. All I've managed at this stage is a workaround
of creating the label in Surething, exporting it out as a BMP and
importing it into Canon's CD printer software to print from there. A
bit of a pain though.

See this link:
http://pete.mvd2.com/custom_templates.htm
get both templates for cano i865 and i9950 and modify them
on this page
http://pete.mvd2.com/pagesetup/index.htm
you have explained how to modify,

just bear in mind that ip4000 page size values are 13,1 cm width and 23,87
mm height
Then CD label start position left is 0,65 cm and top is 8,7 cm
then get old coaster (normal, not printable), draw a black circle onvery
outer edge of new design and another one at very inner edge. Print this
design to coaster and you'll see if it's centered. If not, correct start
position values.
Don't forget to set printer properties - media type to Printable
CD(recomended), and page size to CDR tray B

 

[SleeperMan]

See this link:
http://pete.mvd2.com/custom_templates.htm
get both templates for cano i865 and i9950 and modify them
on this page
http://pete.mvd2.com/pagesetup/index.htm
you have explained how to modify,

just bear in mind that ip4000 page size values are 13,1 cm width and
23,87 mm height
Then CD label start position left is 0,65 cm and top is 8,7 cm
then get old coaster (normal, not printable), draw a black circle
onvery outer edge of new design and another one at very inner edge.
Print this design to coaster and you'll see if it's centered. If not,
correct start position values.
Don't forget to set printer properties - media type to Printable
CD(recomended), and page size to CDR tray B

Ops...those two templates don't have full face, so they have quite a big
inner ring, and in Surething inner ring can't be altered.
SO, i guess you'll have to change existing template in a way second link
explains.

 

[SleeperMan]

ops....i forgot to delete black circles in template i attached. so, either
you do it, or get modified one in a new thread i published :

"Canon PIXMA 4000 CD print template here!"

sorry.... :-((

 

[PC Medic]

Can you tell us which extra's the IP5000 has to offer?
Hmm, maybe I don't want to know this, since I already have the IP4000, and
am very satisfied with it

2 additional inks (red green)

 

[PC Medic]

2 additional inks (red green)

Scratch that, I saw ip6000 and we are talking 5000 here

 

[measekite]

INCORRECT!

The ip5000 does not have any additional cartridges. It has a higher
resolution and a 1 picoliter droplet size. It prints somewhat slower
than the ip4000. According to PCWorld review against the ip4000 the
business graphics and documents are much better on the 5000 but the
photo quality is marginally better on the 4000.

While I have not heard of this happening, I would be concerned that the
small droplet size could lead to print head clogging down the road but I
do not know. I cannot understand why Canon choose a 2 picoliter droplet
size over the 1 for their flagship ip8500.

I too purchased an ip4000 prior to the ip5000 and considered returning
the ip4000 and purchasing an ip5000. After reading all of the reviews, I
am glad I have the ip4000 and will keep it. The next printer I may buy
is the successor to the i9900.

 

[SleeperMan]

INCORRECT!

The ip5000 does not have any additional cartridges. It has a higher
resolution and a 1 picoliter droplet size. It prints somewhat slower
than the ip4000. According to PCWorld review against the ip4000 the
business graphics and documents are much better on the 5000 but the
photo quality is marginally better on the 4000.

While I have not heard of this happening, I would be concerned that
the small droplet size could lead to print head clogging down the
road but I do not know. I cannot understand why Canon choose a 2
picoliter droplet size over the 1 for their flagship ip8500.

I too purchased an ip4000 prior to the ip5000 and considered returning
the ip4000 and purchasing an ip5000. After reading all of the
reviews, I am glad I have the ip4000 and will keep it. The next
printer I may buy is the successor to the i9900.

Read second thread of PCMedic...it says he confused 5000 and 6000...