Canon IP8500 Inkjet Printer and Smudy inks


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ged.clink

Picked this up last night. Printed off a few stunning shots straight
out of the camera / Photoshop and even found myself awake at 2.00 am
taking a few shots of a lightning storm. Printed off very well indeed
and later today one of my kids when looking at the picture managed to
land the tiniest tiniest bit of drool on the black foreground. When I
went to rub it off, the ink left the paper and I was left with a tiny
white dot.

Upon further examination a damp finger can make the ink smear on the
prints ( even when dry for over 12 hours)??

Is this normal? I had thought that inkjet prints were pretty robust
once set?

How can I protect my prints as they are in an open presentation folder,
not behind glass?

Finally I am currently using Kokac Ultimate Picture Paper for inkjets (
older stuff I had lying around ). Its the premium Kodac range. I have
delivered amazing prints on this even though websites say the Kodac
paper doesn't work too well with the newer Canons.

Could this be the issue, i.e would Canon paper stop the smudging?

Thanks for any advice. From inital thoughts this looks like one hell of
a printer

Cheers

Ged
 
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drc023

There are basically two type of photo papers available for consumer inkjets.
The first is known as Swellable Polymer or SP for short. Kodak Ultima (note
the spelling) is an example of this type of paper. The coating helps to
control ink fading due to out gassing of the inks, but the downside to this
type of paper is exactly what you describe - absolutely no resistance to
moisture, very long drying times and ink pooling. The other type of paper is
known as Microporous or Nanoporous and is usually labeled on the package as
Instant Dry. This is the preferred paper for Canon inkjets. Examples of this
type of paper are Canon photo papers, Ilford Gallerie, Office Depot
Professional (formerly OD Premium High Gloss), Kirkland from Costco, Red
River Ultra Pro and there are many others - look for the designation of
instant dry. My personal experience with instant dry papers is that fading
has not been a problem with any that I've used, which are the ones listed
above with the exception of Kirkland since there isn't a Costco in my
locale. Prints on these sheets are dry to the touch immediately out of the
printer. Water resistance is very high. Printed sheets can be soaked in
water or be subjected to running water without damage. Use the correct paper
and you'll be thrilled with the results.
 
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measekite

Picked this up last night. Printed off a few stunning shots straight
out of the camera / Photoshop and even found myself awake at 2.00 am
taking a few shots of a lightning storm. Printed off very well indeed
and later today one of my kids when looking at the picture managed to
land the tiniest tiniest bit of drool on the black foreground. When I
went to rub it off, the ink left the paper and I was left with a tiny
white dot.

Upon further examination a damp finger can make the ink smear on the
prints ( even when dry for over 12 hours)??

Is this normal?
Pretty much normal.
I had thought that inkjet prints were pretty robust
once set?

How can I protect my prints as they are in an open presentation folder,
not behind glass?
Acid free album
Finally I am currently using Kokac Ultimate Picture Paper for inkjets (
older stuff I had lying around ).
Kodak paper is the worst stuff for a Canon printer. It is picture
poor. Costco/Kirkland (?Ilford) is very close to Canon Photo Paper Pro
at 1/7 of the price. Stick to OEM ink for best results and an unclogged
printhead.
 
G

ged.clink

Thanks guys. You learn something new every day...Off to buy the Canon
paper then

Cheers again

Ged
 
M

measekite

YOU WILL FIND THAT COSTCO/KIRKLAND PAPER BELIEVED TO BE MADE BY ILFORD
HAS ABOUT 97% OF THE QUALITY RESULTS OF CANON PHOTO PAPER PRO USING
CANON OEM INK AND ABOUT 1/7 OF THE PRICE.
 
G

ged.clink

I had a Costco ( and the associated Kirkland products ) in the UK buy
have been in New Zealand for the last 18 months and can't find one
here...Pretty much stuck with the OEM stuff, Illford and a couple of
others.

Will check out the cheaper papers when we find them

Ged
 
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Arthur Entlich

I agree with most everything you have reported here. The one area where
we have differing experiences is in the fade department.

Although Microporous papers vary widely, as do dye inks, I do find some
combinations of ink to paper do lead to fading of the image or color
shifts over times as short as 6 months to a year without direct sun
exposure, with both matte and gloss surfaces. These would be prints on
display either under glass or not, and under office building intensity
of fluorescent lamps.
 
M

measekite

Arthur said:
I agree with most everything you have reported here. The one area
where we have differing experiences is in the fade department.

Although Microporous papers vary widely, as do dye inks,

ANY KIND OF AFTERMARKET INK VARIES
 
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Clark

I thru away a pack of Kodak paper, it was terrible, I will stick to the one
suggested or Canon paper. I just love my I9900 Canon printer and will try to
keep it up with proper Inks and papers.
 
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Frank

Clark said:
I thru away a pack of Kodak paper, it was terrible, I will stick to the one
suggested or Canon paper. I just love my I9900 Canon printer and will try to
keep it up with proper Inks and papers.
Kodak seems to be the only paper not user friendly to my i9900. As for
oem inks, I used the ones that came with the printer and have never
looked back. MIS and Hobbie colors are simply fabulous replacement inks
at about 25% the cost of the oem. I can't tell the difference in the
prints.
I am an actual owner of the i9900 and am speaking from my personal
experience so you can trust what I'm saying.
Frank
Frank
 
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