Canon CISS system

W

Wayne

What CIS is recommended for the newer Canon machines. IP 3300, 4200, 5300
.... Since I print 100's of sheets every day ... I would prefer something
with larger tanks. Also like the 4 colour 5 max Canon machines.
 
M

measekite

Wayne said:
What CIS is recommended for the newer Canon machines. IP 3300, 4200, 5300
... Since I print 100's of sheets every day ... I would prefer something
with larger tanks. Also like the 4 colour 5 max Canon machines.

Sorry to say but Canon does not recommend a CIS for any of their printers.
 
T

Taliesyn

Wayne said:
What CIS is recommended for the newer Canon machines. IP 3300, 4200, 5300
... Since I print 100's of sheets every day ... I would prefer something
with larger tanks. Also like the 4 colour 5 max Canon machines.


Just a comment from me... That's the trouble with all ink jets - they
were designed for "occasional use". How else can you explain the "one
ounce" cartridges that cost almost as much as the printer itself when
replacing a set! Few people printing large runs are willing to spend a
$100 or $100's in ink every week. I don't use CIS for my Canons. I have
6 sets of home refilled cartridges in rotation, refilled for about $5
a set.

-Taliesyn
 
T

Taliesyn

measekite said:
Sorry to say but Canon does not recommend a CIS for any of their printers.

I agree with Measekite. Canon recommends instead you buy several sets of
their small ink cartridges every week if you do a lot of printing. This
way they profit enormously and you bleed dry. Or you can not listen to
Measekite and opt for an alternative to bankruptcy. I definitely agree
with the latter idea... I've saved several thousand dollars the last few
years by home refilling.

-Taliesyn
 
M

measekite

Taliesyn said:
Just a comment from me... That's the trouble with all ink jets - they
were designed for "occasional use".

That is false. While I do agree that the tanks should be twice the size
the inkjet was never meant to endure full business cycles.
How else can you explain the "one
ounce" cartridges that cost almost as much as the printer itself when
replacing a set! Few people printing large runs are willing to spend a
$100 or $100's in ink every week. I don't use CIS for my Canons. I have
6 sets of home refilled cartridges

and one ruined the printhead. You also forgot to say that you are
willing to accept lower quality and more rapid fading. Now it is ok to
spend less money if you have the time to fart around with the mess and
endure the negatives. Now I also know that your level of judgment is
not what a professional or serious amateur has as a standard.
 
M

measekite

Taliesyn said:
I agree with Measekite. Canon recommends instead you buy several sets of
their small ink cartridges every week if you do a lot of printing.

That is not what I said kiddo. What I said was that Canon recommends
that you purchase a professional printer if you have professional
needs. In the case of Canon you can buy the EFT 5000 or in the case of
Epson you can buy the 3800. Both companies also have larger models.
Now if the guy wants to spend less money and purchase a cheap consumer
printer then he should not complain.

That said it would be nice if Canon would sell larger carts and also
sell an optional CIS system with bulk inks and replacement user
changeable waste pads. It would also be nice if the price of ink would
be 50% less so one does not have to settle with garbage ink and deal
with the riff raff of the industry but this is what we have now.
This
way they profit enormously and you bleed dry. Or you can not listen to
Measekite and opt for an alternative to bankruptcy. I definitely agree
with the latter idea... I've saved several thousand dollars the last few
years by home refilling.

-Taliesyn

The kids allowance that he gets from his parents is not large enough so
make the claim on savings.
 
B

Burt

Taliesyn said:
I agree with Measekite. Canon recommends instead you buy several sets of
their small ink cartridges every week if you do a lot of printing. This
way they profit enormously and you bleed dry. Or you can not listen to
Measekite and opt for an alternative to bankruptcy. I definitely agree
with the latter idea... I've saved several thousand dollars the last few
years by home refilling.

-Taliesyn

So have I. Don't be misled by the troll, Measekite. Refilling with quality
aftermarket inks saves tons of money. You may find info on CIS units for
the IP4300 on the nifty-stuff forum. I've seen several posts about them
there.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
 
T

Taliesyn

measekite said:
That is false. While I do agree that the tanks should be twice the size
the inkjet was never meant to endure full business cycles.



and one ruined the printhead.

A huge, perpetuated lie by you. It was a factory defective head that
died after a month of use. What proof have I got? The replacement head
is still working 2+ years later with the same inks. My 3 printers have
an accumulated 6.5+ years of perfect use without failing or clogging
and cost me pennies to operate using HobbiColors (color) and
Atlanticinkjet (text) inks. In the process I have saved a a couple of
thousand dollars (Canadian $). Money saved for better use.
You also forgot to say that you are
willing to accept lower quality and more rapid fading.

No I'm not. I've been home refilling for 10 years. If I haven't seen any
significant fading or lower quality after 10 years of constant use, then
I certainly wouldn't accept less. I don't accept nonsense and total
misinformation from a hack who's never used non-oem inks and has zero
credibility.
Now it is ok to
spend less money if you have the time to fart around with the mess and
endure the negatives.

It takes me about 10 minutes to refill a set of cartridges. You spend
10 times more on a daily basis writing rubbish every day in this
newsgroup. I create things with my printers while you spend hours
writing trash. Which one of us is wasting time, farting around the
newsgroup and enduring the negatives (you've been killfiled by virtually
every one. If you were helpful to anyone, you wouldn't be killfiled).
Now I also know that your level of judgment is
not what a professional or serious amateur has as a standard.

You don't need to be a professional to know quality. But you do have to
be an idiot to think you ARE a professional or a serious amateur when
you're but the newsgroup troll having fun here because you're bored and
have nothing better to do with your time than endure negatives and
making a mess. Your "advice" is rapidly fading and your "quality" is
nonexistent. Gonna write some more rubbish today?

-Taliesyn
 
M

measekite

Taliesyn said:
A huge, perpetuated lie by you. It was a factory defective head that
died after a month of use. What proof have I got? The replacement head
is still working 2+ years later with the same inks. My 3 printers have
an accumulated 6.5+ years of perfect use without failing or clogging
and cost me pennies to operate using HobbiColors (color) and
Atlanticinkjet (text) inks. In the process I have saved a a couple of
thousand dollars (Canadian $). Money saved for better use.


No I'm not. I've been home refilling for 10 years.

Oh Yeah, Mommy let you refill messy ink carts when you were 7 years
old. ha ha ha or maybe he he he
 
B

Brian

A huge, perpetuated lie by you. It was a factory defective head that
died after a month of use. What proof have I got? The replacement head
is still working 2+ years later with the same inks. My 3 printers have
an accumulated 6.5+ years of perfect use without failing or clogging
and cost me pennies to operate using HobbiColors (color) and
Atlanticinkjet (text) inks. In the process I have saved a a couple of
thousand dollars (Canadian $). Money saved for better use.


No I'm not. I've been home refilling for 10 years. If I haven't seen any
significant fading or lower quality after 10 years of constant use, then
I certainly wouldn't accept less. I don't accept nonsense and total
misinformation from a hack who's never used non-oem inks and has zero
credibility.


It takes me about 10 minutes to refill a set of cartridges. You spend
10 times more on a daily basis writing rubbish every day in this
newsgroup. I create things with my printers while you spend hours
writing trash. Which one of us is wasting time, farting around the
newsgroup and enduring the negatives (you've been killfiled by virtually
every one. If you were helpful to anyone, you wouldn't be killfiled).


You don't need to be a professional to know quality. But you do have to
be an idiot to think you ARE a professional or a serious amateur when
you're but the newsgroup troll having fun here because you're bored and
have nothing better to do with your time than endure negatives and
making a mess. Your "advice" is rapidly fading and your "quality" is
nonexistent. Gonna write some more rubbish today?

-Taliesyn


Well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Way to go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's an idiot and
probably works for Canon too..... I've been using G&G ink for years
and never had a head fail and all the prints I made still look great...........

Brian..........

Kill filters - The Enema Of The Usenet !!!!!
 
B

Burt

Brian said:
(snip)

Well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Way to go
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's an idiot and
probably works for Canon too..... I've been using G&G ink for years
and never had a head fail and all the prints I made still look
great...........

Brian..........

Kill filters - The Enema Of The Usenet !!!!!

Great P.S., Brian --- flush the troll!
 

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