dean said:
This is the drive:
Fujitsu MAX3147NP 147GB 15,000 RPM SCSI Ultra320 68pin Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822116012
and this is the controller card:
LSI LOGIC LSI00011-F PCI-X SCSI U320 1Ch
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118060
I think this will work on the following motherboard, but I want to be
sure before I order it, since I don't have much experience in scsi
systems:
ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA / SE LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131221
Thanks for any info. My plan is to boot up from an XP-pro installation
CD and install directly onto the scsi drive. Currently the machine has
no OS. Is this adapter and drive something that the boot CD will
recognize? And if not, what would be the way to go to get XP installed
on this new system?
Thanks indeed!
Dean
LSI LOGIC LSI00011-F PCI-X SCSI U320 1Ch
http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/host_bus_adapters/scsi_hbas/lsiu320/index.html
Product Brief - appears to be backward compatible with a PCI slot. It is a
good idea to check that a 64 bit card supports both 3.3V and 5V, as some PCI-X
cards are 3.3V only and won't fit in a desktop motherboard. When this card is
installed, 32 bits "hang over" the end of the PCI slot on the Maximus. (There
used to be cases in the past, where the thickness of the PCI slot plastic frame,
wouldn't fit in the slot cut to make room for it, in the 64 bit PCI card.)
http://www.lsi.com/files/docs/marketing_docs/storage_stand_prod/habs/lsiu320.pdf
Maximus Formula has two 5 volt PCI slots, max 133MB/sec transfer rate.
Practical transfer rate could be 120MB/sec or so.
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-131-221-05.jpg
The lsilogic page also has a "drivers" tab. These are the instructions for the
WinXP driver. Basically, copy files including txtsetup.oem, to a floppy.
Press F6 at the appropriate time, and offer drivers via the floppy, during the
initial WinXP install.
http://www.lsi.com/support/downloads/hbas/scsi/software_drivers/windows/symmpixp.txt
By the way, the pictures of the lsilogic package on Newegg, show it doesn't come
with a cable. You're going to need a cable to connect the drive to the SCSI
card. SCSI busses should be doubly terminated - one termination could be on the
SCSI card itself. Some drives have built-in termination, to solve the problem at
the other end. But this is also a technical detail that must be looked at - whether
the thing has been terminated properly or not.
On this Fujitsu web page, there is no mention of termination built into the
drive. There are some documents here.
http://193.128.183.41/home/v3__product.asp?pid=494&inf=doc&wg=0
Example of an internal ribbon. I cannot tell by looking at this, whether
the connectors on this are correct or not. This cable has a terminator at
the end of the cable, in the last position. LVD terminators should be
differential and 100ohms or so (maybe 110 ohms? not sure off hand).
These cables are more expensive, if bought straight from Startech.
This is part of the attraction of SCSI - the expensive cabling.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0963908&cs=19&c=us&l=en&st=ena data feed
http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemList.aspx?MLID=2&WCLID=107&WCID=42&c=CA
I have an old cable here, which has a "paddle style" terminator at the
end of the cable. There is a connector about two inches from it, intended
for the last drive on the cable. That connector doesn't look very convenient,
with the terminator flopping around next to it. So having a couple positions
for drives might help.
Note that there are cabling rules for SCSI, such as minimum cable length,
maximum cable length, minimum spacing between connectors and so on. Some
of this has to do with reflections or bus loading, and is not intended to
make intuitive sense. (Most people would expect a short cable to be better,
but that may not be the case.) So reading up on the rules is also a good
idea, just to know what you're dealing with. Chances are, you won't run into
problems if your interconnect is dictated by a single cable you are
buying. Especially if it has the terminator connected already
http://www.altavista.com/web/results?q=lvd+scsi+cabling+rules
I've done some of the SCSI examples at the bottom of this page
(mixing narrow and wide drives, some drives with auto terminators)
and doing this on a regular basis leads to hair loss. You've been
warned
It's been a long time since I've had to do any, and
I do it infrequently enough, that I have to look up the details
each time.
http://store.a2zcable.com/sccahetofscc.html
Good luck,
Paul
