Can I gave away my XP upgrade?

M

mlgdtd

Ok.. I bought the Windows XP upgrade a few years ago.. Now, The PC that
it was on died.. So I had to buy a new PC that came with Windows XP..
Can I give my friend the Windows XP upgrade? I may have reinstalled it
on my old PC like 90 days ago.. I read 120 days past is ok.. SO..

Can I give it to him as I no longer have a use for it?
And will me activating it in less the 120 days give him a problem?
If so, How can he explain to MS what I stated above?
 
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Guest

As your XP probably came with its own license coding to install in a foriegn
pc will only last 90 days, tell your friend to
1, take credit card
2,go to pc store
3,buy new xp disc
4 install and sail into the horizon

your friend may not be your friend if you mess up his pc with whats
basically an illegal copy!
 
R

Ron Sommer

Yes, you can give him the upgrade.
The activation using the Internet should be okay.
If it won't activate over the Internet, then activate over the phone and
explain that the previous computer is no longer working.
--
Ron Sommer

: Ok.. I bought the Windows XP upgrade a few years ago.. Now, The PC that
: it was on died.. So I had to buy a new PC that came with Windows XP..
: Can I give my friend the Windows XP upgrade? I may have reinstalled it
: on my old PC like 90 days ago.. I read 120 days past is ok.. SO..
:
: Can I give it to him as I no longer have a use for it?
: And will me activating it in less the 120 days give him a problem?
: If so, How can he explain to MS what I stated above?
:
 
A

Alias~-

stu said:
As your XP probably came with its own license coding to install in a foriegn
pc will only last 90 days, tell your friend to
1, take credit card
2,go to pc store
3,buy new xp disc
4 install and sail into the horizon

your friend may not be your friend if you mess up his pc with whats
basically an illegal copy!

Um, you're wrong. One, the upgrade is retail and two, it is no longer
installed on a machine. So how is it an illegal copy?

Alias
 
D

DatabaseBen

if it was previously activated
then it is unlikely that microsoft's
superior data base will allow
it to be activated again on
a different machine.

if this were possible then
people would be installing o.s.'s
for free...

but you can try anyways....

maybe it might help if you gave
your old harddrive to your friend as well.
assuring that the o.s. is on it and nothing
else you would need....
 
A

Alias~-

DatabaseBen said:
if it was previously activated
then it is unlikely that microsoft's
superior data base will allow
it to be activated again on
a different machine.
False.

if this were possible then
people would be installing o.s.'s
for free...
False.

but you can try anyways....

maybe it might help if you gave
your old harddrive to your friend as well.
assuring that the o.s. is on it and nothing
else you would need....

False.

Boy, you aren't batting too well today, "Databaseben".

Alias
 
R

RA

DatabaseBen said:
if it was previously activated
then it is unlikely that microsoft's
superior data base will allow
it to be activated again on
a different machine.

Horse Pucky!!
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Ok.. I bought the Windows XP upgrade a few years ago.. Now, The PC
that it was on died.. So I had to buy a new PC that came with Windows
XP.. Can I give my friend the Windows XP upgrade? I may have
reinstalled it on my old PC like 90 days ago.. I read 120 days past
is ok.. SO..

Can I give it to him as I no longer have a use for it?


It has nothing to do with the number of days. Yes you can give it to him. If
it's an Upgrade, it's a retail copy, and retail copies are completely
transferable.

And will me activating it in less the 120 days give him a problem?


No. The only issue is that activation over the internet will fail, and he'll
be prompted to activate by voice call to an 800 number. That's normally
quick and easy and isn't a problem at all.

If so, How can he explain to MS what I stated above?


He probably won't even be asked, but if he is, he can just explain that it's
a used copy he got from someone else. It's completely legal.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

DatabaseBen said:
if it was previously activated
then it is unlikely that microsoft's
superior data base will allow
it to be activated again on
a different machine.


This is *not* correct. It's a retail copy and retail copies can be moved to
different machines as often as desired. Only OEM copies are not
transferrable.
 
G

Guest

Stu & DatabaseBen your both wrong! Yes the upgrade can be transferred onto
another computer as I have twice. In I bought a newer computer but
unfortunately last week the hard drive died, so I bough a new hard drive.
Hence I transferred my windows xp Service pack 2 full edition on to both by
calling the 1-800 phone number provided on the activation and using a 6 group
code time 7 to the activation ctr and they then read another 6 digitit time 7
code back to me, that I typed into my comptuer and hence it was activated
again on my new harddrive. Full versions as long as they are retail copies
not copies with a OEM in them, and upgrades are legal to transfer. (OEM
copies come with computers all ready installed, retail versions do not).
 
G

Gordon

Robyn said:
Stu & DatabaseBen your both wrong! Yes the upgrade can be transferred
onto
another computer as I have twice. In I bought a newer computer but
unfortunately last week the hard drive died, so I bough a new hard drive.
Hence I transferred my windows xp Service pack 2 full edition on to both
by
calling the 1-800 phone number provided on the activation and using a 6
group
code time 7 to the activation ctr and they then read another 6 digitit
time 7
code back to me, that I typed into my comptuer and hence it was activated
again on my new harddrive. Full versions as long as they are retail
copies
not copies with a OEM in them, and upgrades are legal to transfer. (OEM
copies come with computers all ready installed, retail versions do not).

But an UPGRADE (as opposed to FULL) licence merges with the licence of the
OS you used as the qualifying OS for the upgrade, therefore you have to
transfer the OS you upgraded from AS WELL.
 
A

Alias~-

Robyn said:
(OEM
copies come with computers all ready installed, retail versions do not).

I have bought at least a dozen OEM versions and I bought them without
any hardware or computer.

Alias
 
A

Alias~-

Gordon said:
But an UPGRADE (as opposed to FULL) licence merges with the licence of the
OS you used as the qualifying OS for the upgrade, therefore you have to
transfer the OS you upgraded from AS WELL.

The old computer died. Whether MS likes it or not, I would use it. You
don't mean "legal" because there's been no *legal* precedent set.

Alias
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Robyn said:
Stu & DatabaseBen your both wrong! Yes the upgrade can be
transferred onto another computer as I have twice. In I bought a
newer computer but unfortunately last week the hard drive died, so I
bough a new hard drive. Hence I transferred my windows xp Service
pack 2 full edition on to both by calling the 1-800 phone number
provided on the activation and using a 6 group code time 7 to the
activation ctr and they then read another 6 digitit time 7 code back
to me, that I typed into my comptuer and hence it was activated again
on my new harddrive. Full versions as long as they are retail copies
not copies with a OEM in them, and upgrades are legal to transfer.
(OEM copies come with computers all ready installed, retail versions
do not).



Just one clarification here: *some* OEM copies "come with computers already
installed," but not all do. There are also generic OEM versions that are
sold by themselves (supposedly with a piece of hardware, but that's often
not observed).

As a matter of fact, it's just that generic OEM version that is the biggest
source of confusion, because many people confuse them with Full Retail
versions, and don't realize the restrictions they come with until later.
 
B

Bob I

Gordon said:
But an UPGRADE (as opposed to FULL) licence merges with the licence of the
OS you used as the qualifying OS for the upgrade, therefore you have to
transfer the OS you upgraded from AS WELL.

No, you can't give away the QUALIFYING OS and continue to use the
UPGRADE on the that system. IF you want to use the UPGRADE you must have
a QUALIFYING OS. If you go back to/downgrade to your old system, you may
use the UPGRADE elsewhere.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Ok.. I bought the Windows XP upgrade a few years ago.. Now, The PC that
it was on died.. So I had to buy a new PC that came with Windows XP..
Can I give my friend the Windows XP upgrade? I may have reinstalled it
on my old PC like 90 days ago.. I read 120 days past is ok.. SO..

Can I give it to him as I no longer have a use for it?
And will me activating it in less the 120 days give him a problem?
If so, How can he explain to MS what I stated above?


Yes, you can give the Upgrade license to your friend, provided that
you're no longer using it.

Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not transferable),
simply remove WinXP from the computer it is currently on and then
install it on the new computer. If it's been more than 120 days since
you last activated that specific Product Key, the you'll most likely be
able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less,
you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


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B

Bruce Chambers

Gordon said:
But an UPGRADE (as opposed to FULL) licence merges with the licence of the
OS you used as the qualifying OS for the upgrade,


Almost true. It's the old license that becomes part of the upgrade
license, but only for so long as that Upgrade license is in use on the
machine that was upgraded. This would be relevant only if the OP wanted
to reuse the older, qualifying OS while still using it to qualify for
the Upgrade. This isn't the case here.

... therefore you have to
transfer the OS you upgraded from AS WELL.


That's not correct.


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