Can I dual boot 2 win XP?

[Walter E.]

I like to experiment with various programs but hate to mess up my XP Pro
setup.

If I could dual boot two versions of Win XP on the same computer, I could
use one to experiment with. If this is possible, how would I go about
setting up two XPs as a dual boot? Could set it up on a separate partition?

I have dual booted Win 98 and XP. It worked out fine but I subsequently
deleted that dual boot.

 

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

I like to experiment with various programs but hate to mess up my XP Pro
setup.

If I could dual boot two versions of Win XP on the same computer, I could
use one to experiment with. If this is possible, how would I go about
setting up two XPs as a dual boot? Could set it up on a separate partition?

I have dual booted Win 98 and XP. It worked out fine but I subsequently
deleted that dual boot.

You need to purchase a second license to allow you to install a second copy
of Windows XP to the same machine.
The End User Licenses Agreement (EULA) is quite clear about this.
Start ... Run ... winver and click the link to view the EULA

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft grants you the following
rights provided that you comply with all terms and
conditions of this EULA:
1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer,
such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation
Computer").

So you may install one copy on your PC per license.

Once you have your second license you just install it to another partition
after booting from the CD and following the onscreen prompts.
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Mike
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[Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)]

But he can only boot into one copy at a time. I think that this "must" be
tested in a court of law!

I am all for Microsoft, and have bought 10-15 copies of your various O/S's,
along with Office 95-97-2000-XP. I think you (Microsoft) are now going too
far!

Why don't you try a bit harder to alienate me, and others like me!

 

[T.C.]

Yes. You either have to have a partitioned hard drive, or second hard
drive. Insert the Windows XP CD, and during the setup process you'll be
asked where you want Windows XP installed. Select the letter of the
partition or drive where your current version of Windows IS NOT ALREADY
installed. After setup completes, and you boot your system, you'll get a
boot menu, asking which Windows XP you want to boot into. You'll get 30
seconds to make your choice. If you don't make a selection, the default
first install will load automatically. You can manually edit the boot.ini
file on the C drive to reduce the number of seconds, or change which version
to load by default. But, here's an easier way to change the default
operating system, and the time to display the boot menu of operating
systems: Right click the My Computer desktop icon, then left click
Properties. When the System Properties dialog box opens click the Advanced
tab, then under the heading: Startup and Recovery click the Settings button.
At the top of the Startup and Recovery dialog box you'll see all that you
need to easily make those changes, and there's also an EDIT button if you
want to edit the boot.ini file manually.

 

[Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)]

The magic word is "access" 1 copy!

In dual booting, that is exactly what you do!

 

[Walter E.]

Thank you, TC

Yours was a very informative post.

I just hate it when I ask for technical information and get a lecture in
morality.

--
Walter
The Happy Iconoclast www.rationality.net
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Yes. You either have to have a partitioned hard drive, or second hard
drive. Insert the Windows XP CD, and during the setup process you'll be
asked where you want Windows XP installed. Select the letter of the
partition or drive where your current version of Windows IS NOT ALREADY
installed. After setup completes, and you boot your system, you'll get a
boot menu, asking which Windows XP you want to boot into. You'll get 30
seconds to make your choice. If you don't make a selection, the default
first install will load automatically. You can manually edit the boot.ini
file on the C drive to reduce the number of seconds, or change which version
to load by default. But, here's an easier way to change the default
operating system, and the time to display the boot menu of operating
systems: Right click the My Computer desktop icon, then left click
Properties. When the System Properties dialog box opens click the Advanced
tab, then under the heading: Startup and Recovery click the Settings button.
At the top of the Startup and Recovery dialog box you'll see all that you
need to easily make those changes, and there's also an EDIT button if you
want to edit the boot.ini file manually.
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T.C.
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I like to experiment with various programs but hate to mess up my XP Pro
setup.

If I could dual boot two versions of Win XP on the same computer, I could
use one to experiment with. If this is possible, how would I go about
setting up two XPs as a dual boot? Could set it up on a separate partition?

I have dual booted Win 98 and XP. It worked out fine but I subsequently
deleted that dual boot.

 

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

The actual word of note is

"... You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer,
such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation
Computer"). ..."

INSTALL

And to get to a dual boot that is exactly what you do so unless you have 2
licenses you breach the EULA you agree to.

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Mike
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[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

Thank you, TC

Yours was a very informative post.

I just hate it when I ask for technical information and get a lecture in
morality.

You are still required to purchase 2 licenses to dual boot.
Not a morality issue - just simple licensing terms.

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Mike
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Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

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Thank you, TC

Yours was a very informative post.

I just hate it when I ask for technical information and get a lecture in
morality.

--
Walter
The Happy Iconoclast www.rationality.net
-

Yes. You either have to have a partitioned hard drive, or second hard
drive. Insert the Windows XP CD, and during the setup process you'll be
asked where you want Windows XP installed. Select the letter of the
partition or drive where your current version of Windows IS NOT ALREADY
installed. After setup completes, and you boot your system, you'll get a
boot menu, asking which Windows XP you want to boot into. You'll get 30
seconds to make your choice. If you don't make a selection, the default
first install will load automatically. You can manually edit the boot.ini
file on the C drive to reduce the number of seconds, or change which version
to load by default. But, here's an easier way to change the default
operating system, and the time to display the boot menu of operating
systems: Right click the My Computer desktop icon, then left click
Properties. When the System Properties dialog box opens click the Advanced
tab, then under the heading: Startup and Recovery click the Settings button.
At the top of the Startup and Recovery dialog box you'll see all that you
need to easily make those changes, and there's also an EDIT button if you
want to edit the boot.ini file manually.
--
T.C.
Pay it forward...
t__cruise@[REMOVE]hotmail.com
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I like to experiment with various programs but hate to mess up my XP Pro
setup.

If I could dual boot two versions of Win XP on the same computer, I could
use one to experiment with. If this is possible, how would I go about
setting up two XPs as a dual boot? Could set it up on a separate partition?

I have dual booted Win 98 and XP. It worked out fine but I subsequently
deleted that dual boot.

 

[Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)]

As I said, Microsoft is trying damn hard to alienate those who support the
company. How long do you think it can go on, without impacting your bottom
line?

 

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

As I said, Microsoft is trying damn hard to alienate those who support the
company. How long do you think it can go on, without impacting your bottom
line?

Additional unlicensed installs and piracy effect our bottom line too.
You agree to be bound by the EULA when you install the product.
You are expected to read it and adhere to it.
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Mike
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[davexnet]

You are still required to purchase 2 licenses to dual boot.
Not a morality issue - just simple licensing terms.

I assume it's true that any (attempted) install is going to require
activation, and that the key used on the original partition is not
going to work?

It seems that the license as written enforces its
conditions this way.

As to whether it's user friendly or not, well,
that's another issue.


Dave

 

[GSV Three Minds in a Can]

You need to purchase a second license to allow you to install a second copy
of Windows XP to the same machine.
The End User Licenses Agreement (EULA) is quite clear about this.
Start ... Run ... winver and click the link to view the EULA

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft grants you the following
rights provided that you comply with all terms and
conditions of this EULA:
1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer,
such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation
Computer").

So you may install one copy on your PC per license.

Once you have your second license you just install it to another partition
after booting from the CD and following the onscreen prompts.

That's what the EULA says all right, however one has to ask 'Why', and
whether it would stand up to a 'reasonableness of contract' examination.
The Product Activation scheme doesn't enforce it (many people have
=accidentally= installed a second copy), and many MS staff probably
ignore it too, when they need a second install to dig out the first one
that broke. It's not like you can use two at once.

I'm entirely against piracy, having made a living out of software, but
this particular license clause just rings the 'dumb, stupid, not thought
out' bell with me.

 

[Steve Balmer]

Of course he can dual boot 2 installations of Windows XP.
It says so right in the Eula!

Quote: You may install, use, access, display and run one
copy of the Software on a single computer.

Well, seeing as how we have the CD master in our safe, it
is obvious to me, that the O/P purchased 1 "copy" of the
Master.

He may install, use, access, display and run 1 copy. He
isn't trying to use 2 copies, only 1. I see nothing wrong
with what he proposes to do. He can only boot into 1
instance of the operating system. He can only use the
instance that he has booted into. The other just sits
there as a conjealed mass of 0's and 1's.

Obviously, your interpretation of the EULA is flawed. I
expect to see you in my office at 8:45 am tomorrow. Be
prepaired to be terminated. I don't need people like you
messing with our valued customers!

 

[Larry(LJL269)]

If you want, u can clone ur current XP and dual boot.
That way u dont have to reinstall printer, settings,
updates, etc. I'm on my clone XP now which I use as backup
and experimentation .

Requires PQboot from PMagic or similar.
If u wanna know how, I'll dig out the post. Just let me
know. Sermon is NOT included!!

HTH - Larry

I like to experiment with various programs but hate to mess up my XP Pro
setup.

If I could dual boot two versions of Win XP on the same computer, I could
use one to experiment with. If this is possible, how would I go about
setting up two XPs as a dual boot? Could set it up on a separate partition?

I have dual booted Win 98 and XP. It worked out fine but I subsequently
deleted that dual boot.

Any advise given is my attempt to show appreciation for all
the excellent help I've received here but I'm no MVP so it
may only apply NUGS (Normally, Usually, Generally, Sometimes

 

[Max]

One of the problems with a dual-boot configuration is that it can be
hard to get rid of once it is installed.

My advice is to get a second hard drive and then clone your existing
hard drive on to the second one. You can use Ghost 2003 or Seagate's
DiscWizard, for example, to do this. Ghost 2003 is currently selling
at very cheap prices on eBay and Half.com. DiscWizard is free.

Once you have the second hard drive cloned, you should be able to boot
to it by opening your BIOS program and changing the boot sequence of
the hard drives. As an alternative, you will also be able to copy the
clone back to your original drive.

 

[Alex Nichol]

If I could dual boot two versions of Win XP on the same computer, I could
use one to experiment with. If this is possible, how would I go about
setting up two XPs as a dual boot? Could set it up on a separate partition?

I have dual booted Win 98 and XP. It worked out fine but I subsequently
deleted that dual boot.

You can on separate partitions. Trying to do it on one partition would
defeat the whole object of having two.

This is against the strict wording of the license agreement, but there
is a strong feeling that it is a point that just did not occur to
whoever wrote it.

You could set it up by making the second partition (which would probably
mean getting a third party partition manager like Partition MAgic or
BootITNG) and then either use the accompanying boot manager, or run the
P CD *from* the present installation, take Install, change upgrade to
New Install, then when it asks where, hit ESC and point to the other
partition. This will set up the dual boot. You would probably then
want to do a little editing of the boot.ini (in the original partition)
to distinguish the instances

 

[Alex Nichol]

That's what the EULA says all right, however one has to ask 'Why', and
whether it would stand up to a 'reasonableness of contract' examination.
The Product Activation scheme doesn't enforce it (many people have
=accidentally= installed a second copy), and many MS staff probably
ignore it too, when they need a second install to dig out the first one
that broke. It's not like you can use two at once.

It also raises the interesting question of making one installation, and
then a clone copy thereof into a second partition. Could that be
construed as 'Installing'? I very much doubt it.

And MS must recognise that if they want systems beta tested, the testers
must be allowed to have independent copies for the purpose.

 

[James Harris]

-----Original Message-----
I like to experiment with various programs but hate to mess up my XP Pro
setup.

If I could dual boot two versions of Win XP on the same computer, I could
use one to experiment with. If this is possible, how would I go about
setting up two XPs as a dual boot? Could set it up on a separate partition?

I have dual booted Win 98 and XP. It worked out fine but I subsequently
deleted that dual boot.

--
Walter
The Happy Iconoclast www.rationality.net
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There is no reason that you should not be able to do so.
Since you already have XP installed, run the XP setup from
within windows. Choose the clean install option. When
the computer reboots, choose a partition that's empty and
install the second copy there. You'll then get boot
manager and you'll have a choice of booting 1) WinXP (The
newest install), or 2) WinXP your original install.

 

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

Of course he can dual boot 2 installations of Windows XP.
It says so right in the Eula!

Quote: You may install, use, access, display and run one
copy of the Software on a single computer.

See your own quote - "you may install .... one copy of the Software on a
single computer".
The additional installation is the issue that violates the EULA.

Also for the record, you spelt Steve's surname wrong, have the wrong e-mail
alias and also posted from the wrong location.

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Mike
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[Walter E.]

Hi Larry

Thank you for your very sensible input. I already make PQ DI images as
backups and there is , indeed, no reason why I cannot install an image to a
new partition. The only problem is how to boot into the second partition.

I also have PQ PM and Boot Magic. I suppose I could install BM on my c:
drive/partition. Is that correct? You mentioned a previous post?

Thanks for your help and have a great day