bambam said:
I'm with you Art, the whole nagware situation is not as simple as John
seems to think.
The fact that we have had nagware on the Pricelessware list for at least
the last 6 years is testament to that. Most of us have voted on these ware
issues before, and yet programs that are supposedly not eligible to be even
talked about in this group have been voted onto the Pricelessware list.
I know Johns heart is in the right place, but sometimes I don't like his
methods for bringing peace and harmony to the group. It seems to be a bit
like the American way of making the world a safer place.
Without John we would have the same amount of suggestions about
non-pure freeware, when there are no really good pure freeware solution
to a certain problem.
He only adds a lot more heated discussions and bad feelings, with no
reduction in the not-pure-freeware posts.
There is a certain level of bakground noise in all newsgroups, of
commercial suggestions, like get rich in this way or that way. The
people who spread such messages practically always use a stolen
identity or a quickly set up identity which is discarded after a
typical hit and run spreading of chain mail schemes or whatever.
He fights the always present background noise, which makes it worse
without any reduction in background noise. That background noise is
just ignored by all rationally thinking people in all newsgroups, and
that is the best way to handle it.
He jumps on good advice which involves not-pure freeware even when
those suggestions are well meant and is the best solution when there is
no good pure freeware answer to a request.
He is very trigger happy, and often jumps on the wrong case and has to
excuse himself for making a mistake.
In short, we would all be better off without his messages.
His violent manlyness culture, which he doesn't see anything wrong in,
is actually wrong. It is a cultural disease which is present in many
western countries, but especially strong in USA and in the middle east.
I am sure that every suicide bomber and every kalashnikov-waving
terrorist also has his heart in the right place, he is just too manly
and stupid to realize that violence and threats is not an accepted way
to do things in a modern civilized world.
The biker culture, where John has his cultural roots, is actually
outlawed in many countries. That should give a hint about what the
modern society thinks about such manly and violent minds, with their
cultural roots in a violent stone age religion. The one and only reason
why the people in the middle east and in USA are subjected to a lot of
stress nowadays, is that they are being forced to reconsider their
views and actions, and their whole culture. They have to develop
another way of thinking and acting to become part of the modern
civilization.
I don't want my children to be disciplined by people like JC.
Therefor I don't want such people policing any newsgroups at all.
There are children around here, and their parents are not happy to see
JC taking the command here. There are softer and more tolerant ways to
discipline children and many parents prefer those methods.
He is like a violent hells angels member dressed in studded black
leather who is patrolling the playgrounds around town with his
rottweiler and he tells the children how to behave. In real life he
wouldn't survive for long with that kind of behavior, but in internet
he can get away with that.
My suggestion to JC is to let his JC identity disappear, because that
identity has made too many mistakes of the violent and threatening
type.
Change your name to something else, stop policing anything at all, and
let us forget about JC. That is the right thing to do. It would also
give you a well needed lifelong vacation from a job you are not
suitable for.
