c:Drive space

G

Guest

My C: drive inexplicably reached its full capacity. I tried uninstalling
programs to free up space which seemed to work but then the free space again
disappeared. I have now re-partitioned the drive to increase the size by
about 20gb but again the free space seems to be getting used up immediately
after re-boot. The Windows directory appears to have about 28gb but when I
look in the directory there does not appear to be any files/directories that
would add up to this size! There is insufficient free space for restore
points or defrag. Is there anyway to resolve this ar do I have to re-instal
XP Home. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
L

lvee

have you tried the usual cleanup? Disk Cleanup , which empties temp files,
recycle bin, etc, remove all but the most recent restore points? Also,
check task manager to see what processes are running and look for anything
that seems like it doesn't belong...viruses, etc can exhibit similar
symptoms
 
G

Guest

Thanks Ivee...yep tried all the usuals, cleanup etc, nothing appears out of
the ordinary in task manager and virus scanner shows nothing.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

You say "I have now re-partitioned the drive to increase the size by
about 20 gb but again the free space seems to be getting used up
immediately after re-boot.", What do you mean by this statement?
If you repartition a drive you will not increase free disk space on the
hard disk drive! You will only increase free disk space on one
partition to the extent that you reduce the free space on another partition.
This will help where you have not enough free space on one partition and
an excess on another.

To investigate how you are using hard disk space you need to
make sure that you can see all files. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder
Options, View, Advanced Settings and verify that the box before "Show
hidden files and folders" is checked and "Hide protected operating
system files " is unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the
second item. You should also make certain that the box before "Hide
extensions for known file types" is not checked. Next in Windows
Explorer make sure View, Details is selected and then select View,
Choose Details and check before Name, Type, Total Size, and Free Space.

You still will not see the System Volume Information folder and Norton
Protected Storage ( if you have it).
How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

Download Dirsize.dll plug-in and place the file in Windows\System32
folder. Select Start, Run and type "regsvr32 dirsize.dll" without the
quotes and hit ENTER. Next in Windows Explorer open a folder and set it
to Detail view. From the View menu, click Choose Details. Put a
checkmark near Folder Size, and click OK. Use CTRL and + key (Numeric
Keypad) combination to resize the column width, so that the Folder Size
column is displayed correctly. To apply this setting for all the
folders, click Tools, Folder Options. In the View tab and click Apply to
all folders. You can download Dirsize from:
http://markd.mvps.org/

You can most likely create extra free space by a number of measures.

You can limit the disk space used by System Restore. Right click on the
My Computer icon on your Desktop and select, Properties, System Restore,
Settings. This will give you the amount of Disk Space allocated to
System Restore in terms of % of size of Drive and megabytes or
gigabytes. The default maximum is 12%, which is often excessive. You can
move the slider to the left to reduce the size of the allocation to 700 mb.
Once
the allocated space is fully taken the oldest restore point is removed
when a new restore point is created ( or it should be ).

Try Start, All Programmes, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Delete all
but the most recent Restore Point ( Start, Programs, Accessories, System
Tools, Disk Cleanup, More options). Run Disk Defragmenter by selecting
Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter.

How is the drive formatted -FAT32 or NTFS? To get this information
whilst in Windows Explorer place the cursor on the C drive, right click
and select Properties? More opportunities here depending on the answer

After taking these messages how much free space do you have on your C drive?

Do you have System Restore set to monitor all partitions as it should only
be monitoring your C partition i.e. the partition where the Windows
operating
system is located. Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and
select Properties and System Restore. For each of the other partitions
( other than C ) click on the partition and then Settings and drag the
slider
as as far as you can to the left , click on Turn Off System Restore on this
Drive and then OK. Repeat the process for each partition.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
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G

Guest

Thanks Gerry....sorry I should have said that I'd increased the C: partition
by 20gb by reducing the D: partition. C: is now 44gb and on reboot there was
20 gb of free space which vanished almost before my eyes. Similarly when I
unstilled some programs some free space became available but on reboot this
freespace disappeared.The free space now stays at about 1.5gb or thereabouts
and nothing that I have tried will increase that. After displaying system
files I now find 12 "system files" in the windows directory each of about 2gb
in size. Each files is named with either a single letter or number. Is this
normal? Can these be deleted?
Thanks for your help.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Dazza

Are these 12 files folders containing files or files? If you click on one of
these folders or files and select Properties what information is revealed.
Details please.

With regard to files are you seeing the file extensions? If these 12 are
files do they all have the same file extension? What is the file extension?

Are you using any Norton Utilities. If yes what are they and what version?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
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G

Guest

Gerry, They are files without extensions described as type "System file".
There are 13 in all....one is 49,444kb and the other 12 are 2,095,848kb each.
Each was created at different times yesterday, presumably on re-boot, and
each was last accessed when I booted today. Not using Nortons untilities.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Dazza

If they are files they must have a file extension. You need to check your
View settings and change them as I suggested earlier.

Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings
and verify that the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is checked
and "Hide protected operating system files " is unchecked. You may
need to scroll down to see the second item. You should also make
certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file types" is not
checked.

If they are Directories ( folders ) right click on the folder, select
Properties
and you will see a line on the General tab which says Contains followed by
?? Files ?? Folders where the question marks are represented by a number
or Zero.

For one of the 2,095,848 files what information is revealed when you right
click on the file and select Properties? The more interesting and revealing
information will be on the version tab. Make a point of clicking on Company
and Product Name as otherwise you will not see the information.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
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G

Guest

Sorry Gerry, I have done all that you suggested....they ARE files without
extensions and in fact are described as such in the "type" column. When I
select properties I only get a general tab. There is no other tab at all.
This gives me only the information: files name (e.g. a) that it is a system
file, it's size, location (C:\Windows) and when it was created, last modified
and last accessed.
In each case they were created yesterday and were last modified and accessed
when I last booted.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Dazza

Let's try something else.

Look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for Warning and
Error Reports timed and dated as the files. Post copies of any reports
here.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools,
Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;enus;308427&Product=winxp

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event
Viewer. Now start your message(email) and do a paste into the body of the
message. This will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report
complete with links into the message. Make sure this is the first paste
after
exiting from Event Viewer.


Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, Worcs, England
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G

Guest

Gerry, Sorry i've taken a while to respond but I eventually gave up and took
the PC to the repair shop. It seems that the problem was something to do with
the virtual memory and the system files causing all the problems were page
files that kept wanting to use up alll the free space on the partition. No
idea what caused the problem but it seem to be fixed now. Thanks for your
efforts and thatnks to the other who contributed to the discussion.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Dazza

Thanks for coming back and telling us how the problem was resolved.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
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K

kenchi

Dazza said:
My C: drive inexplicably reached its full capacity. I trie
uninstalling
programs to free up space which seemed to work but then the free spac
again
disappeared. I have now re-partitioned the drive to increase the siz
by
about 20gb but again the free space seems to be getting used u
immediately
after re-boot. The Windows directory appears to have about 28gb bu
when I
look in the directory there does not appear to be any files/directorie
that
would add up to this size! There is insufficient free space fo
restore
points or defrag. Is there anyway to resolve this ar do I have t
re-instal
XP Home. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Do you have Norton protected
 

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