Buying OEM XP Pro

G

Guest

Hi,
I am making a pc for my daughter and that bit is easy, what has got me is
all of the different OS's that are out there and the vast price difference.
Could someone please put my mind at rest and tell me if the link to xp pro
is ok to go on a barebone system or is it an upgrade.? What does (Updated
sku) mean ?
The first link is my first choise, but its out of stock, so I'm looking for
an alternative.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66490

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=97544

Thank you for any help.
Oh its going on msi k8mm-vskt 754 with amd sempron 3100+

Cheers.
Phill
 
J

Jo Bo

"OEM" is a cd that was intended to be included with the purchase of a new pc
and will often have the brand name on the CD. Support is from the original
vendor that you'll not get instead of MS. So if you need support make sure
the vendor has it. They are not a upgrade but a complete cd as delivered
with the original pc that it was intended for. I do not have any idea about
the legality of this type of copy.

JoBo
 
A

Alias

Jo said:
"OEM" is a cd that was intended to be included with the purchase of a new pc
and will often have the brand name on the CD. Support is from the original
vendor that you'll not get instead of MS. So if you need support make sure
the vendor has it. They are not a upgrade but a complete cd as delivered
with the original pc that it was intended for.

There are two kinds of OEMs. One is from someone like Dell or HP. The
other is a generic OEM that is exactly the same as Retail except that it
cannot be used to upgrade and, according to the never enforced EULA,
cannot be moved to a "new" computer. "New" is never defined. Obviously,
the best buy is a generic OEM.

I do not have any idea about
the legality of this type of copy.

JoBo

You told that right.

Alias
 
G

Guest

Many thanks for that Jo Bo, I guess both links are the same then, but if one
is out of stock you have to pay a few £££ more, everything is money theses
days.
Thanks again.
 
R

Ron Martell

Phill said:
Hi,
I am making a pc for my daughter and that bit is easy, what has got me is
all of the different OS's that are out there and the vast price difference.
Could someone please put my mind at rest and tell me if the link to xp pro
is ok to go on a barebone system or is it an upgrade.? What does (Updated
sku) mean ?
The first link is my first choise, but its out of stock, so I'm looking for
an alternative.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66490

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=97544

Thank you for any help.
Oh its going on msi k8mm-vskt 754 with amd sempron 3100+

Cheers.
Phill

Both links appear to be a generic OEM version of XP Pro SP2.

Note the following characteristics of OEM versions:
- The license is *permanently* locked to the first computer it is
installed on and may not be legitimately transferred to another
machine even if the first computer is lost, stolen, scrapped or
destroyed.
- OEM licenses are clean install only and cannot be installed to
upgrade an existing operating system.
- OEM versions do not include any free Microsoft support calls.

See http://onlinehelp.bc.ca/oem_software.htm for more detailed
information about OEM products.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Phill said:
Hi,
I am making a pc for my daughter and that bit is easy, what has got me is
all of the different OS's that are out there and the vast price difference.
Could someone please put my mind at rest and tell me if the link to xp pro
is ok to go on a barebone system or is it an upgrade.? What does (Updated
sku) mean ?
The first link is my first choise, but its out of stock, so I'm looking for
an alternative.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66490

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=97544

Thank you for any help.
Oh its going on msi k8mm-vskt 754 with amd sempron 3100+

Cheers.
Phill


There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:

1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of non-peripheral
hardware (normally a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC,
although Microsoft has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP)
and are _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed.
An OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.

2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse is
to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the OEM
license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email support
for problems with the OS.

3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard drive.
It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a. an
in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.

4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature. Further,
such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum of device
drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer feels
necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was designed.
(To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the open market;
but, if you're shopping someplace on-line like eBay, swap meets, or
computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until it's
too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by Microsoft
and sold to small systems builders, don't have this particular problem,
though, and are pretty much the same as their retail counterparts, apart
from the licensing, support, and upgrading restrictions.

It's quite possible to perform a clean installation using the
Upgrade CD, provided you have the true installation CD for the earlier
OS.

Simply boot from the WinXP Upgrade CD. You'll be offered the
opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the
installation process. The Upgrade CD checks to see if a qualifying OS
is installed, and, if it finds none, it asks you to insert the
installation media (CD) of that OS. Unfortunately, an OEM
"Recovery/Restore" CD will not work for this purpose; you must have a
true installation CD, complete with the "\Win98" folder and *.cab
files, or the "\i386" folder of WinNT/2K.



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Bruce Chambers

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