Bullet Tab Font is ALWAYS Arial!


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dziesmer

HI Everyone;

I'm trying to figure out how to change the default font of the TAB that
follows a bulletted character.

In a few important documents I regualrly convert them to Adobe PDF, and I'm
trying to minimize the number of used and embedded fonts.

The only reason the Arial font keeps showing up in my PDF is because, for
some reason, the tab character following my bullets is formatted as Arial,
even though the font of the bullet (as it is set using normal procedures) is
a different font.

Can anyone help? Is there any way to change the tab character to be a
different font???
 
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nathan.hallquist

HI Everyone;

I'm trying to figure out how to change the default font of the TAB that
follows a bulletted character.

In a few important documents I regualrly convert them to Adobe PDF, and I'm
trying to minimize the number of used and embedded fonts.

The only reason the Arial font keeps showing up in my PDF is because, for
some reason, the tab character following my bullets is formatted as Arial,
even though the font of the bullet (as it is set using normal procedures) is
a different font.

Can anyone help? Is there any way to change the tab character to be a
different font???


I have the exact same problem. Did you ever figure this out?
 
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nathan.hallquist

If you'll answer Stefan's questions, he might be able to help you.

I am using word 2010. I see this problem with both printing to PS and withsave as PDF. I even have this problem if I make a blank document using mynormal template and just put a bullet list in it. I believe my normal template to be unmodified. I have used a custom rule in Acrobat Pro's preflight checks to identify the arial tab....

Nathan
 
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Stefan Blom

Which font is being used for the bullet? If it is a symbol font, perhaps
there is no tab character in its character set. Similar replacements occur
all the time behind the scenes, when a particular character is not available
in the font applied to text.
 
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nathan.hallquist

Stefan,

Thank you for replying! I have checked. Word does this with all lists--Even ones with numbers in Times New Roman.

I can consistently reproduce this problem by making a blank document from my normal template, putting a numbered list in, and then saving to PDF (or by printing to PS and converting with ghostscript).

If word has an "automatic" font I want for it to be something that I can choose. Is there a registry entry, prehaps, for this?

Regards,
Nathan
 
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Stefan Blom

Sorry, I have no insight into the conversion process you are describing...

If you convert to PDF in some other way, does that make a difference?
 
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nathan.hallquist

Stefan,

The PDF distiller makes no difference. Ways I've seen it:

1) save as PDF
2) print to EPS
3) print to Acrobat PDF printer

I've not tried the Acrobat plugin because I did not install it on my computer. I've never seen a Microsoft Word-generated PDF free from this corruption.

I've also checked various word docs people are sending me (for unrelated projects). All of them have Arial tabs in lists.

Have you tried it? The easiest thing to try is "save as PDF." You'll get Arial tabs. The easiest indication is to go to document properties in acroreader. You'll see that any doc with an ordered list contains Arial.

Thanks again!
Nathan
 
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Stefan Blom

I see that Arial is listed as one the fonts in File | Properties, Fonts tab
in Acrobat Reader, when looking at a converted PDF that includes a bulleted
list. Are you sure it only happens for documents that contain bulleted or
numbered lists by the way?
 
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nathan.hallquist

Stefan,

I've looked for other correlation and have not found any. I've tried to change the font, and the tab is always Arial.

Nathan
 
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nathan.hallquist

Stefan,

Have you, by any chance, been able to confirm that this problem exists? If you can find an example where this doesn't happen, I'd like to see it--maybe I could learn from it why it is not happening.....

Nathan
 
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Lisa Wilke-Thissen

Hi Nathan,
If you can find an example where this doesn't happen, I'd like to see
it

I guess we will not find an example :-(.
In numbered paragraphs, the numbers are usually followed by a "Tab".
Alternatively you could choose "Space" or "Nothing".
The Tab however, and the Space as well, will be formatted with Arial.
(Maybe, it's easier to convert the tab stop values?)

The item was also discussed in a German forum one year ago:
http://answers.microsoft.com/de-de/...00?msgId=73d6ab01-838b-4e40-b560-cb9f9d34d926
 
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nathan.hallquist

Lisa,

Thank you! Your comments lead me to a solution. I wrote a program that turns off the tabs in the list templates and then adds back tabs by hand. I run it just before I distill the file. Works great!

I wish that Microsoft would fix this bug.

Best Regards,
Nathan

Hi Nathan,


If you can find an example where this doesn't happen, I'd like to see



I guess we will not find an example :-(.

In numbered paragraphs, the numbers are usually followed by a "Tab".

Alternatively you could choose "Space" or "Nothing".

The Tab however, and the Space as well, will be formatted with Arial.

(Maybe, it's easier to convert the tab stop values?)



The item was also discussed in a German forum one year ago:

http://answers.microsoft.com/de-de/...00?msgId=73d6ab01-838b-4e40-b560-cb9f9d34d926



--

Cheers,

Lisa [MS MVP Word]
 
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Lisa Wilke-Thissen

Hi Nathan,
Thank you! Your comments lead me to a solution.
I wrote a program that turns off the tabs in the
list templates and then adds back tabs by hand.
I run it just before I distill the file. Works great!

thanks for the feedback - and good luck!

Lisa
[MS MVP Word]
 
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Stefan Blom

Just a thought: even without a macro, you can set the list format to use a
space, or nothing, to follow list items.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




Lisa,

Thank you! Your comments lead me to a solution. I wrote a program that
turns off the tabs in the list templates and then adds back tabs by hand.
I run it just before I distill the file. Works great!

I wish that Microsoft would fix this bug.

Best Regards,
Nathan

Hi Nathan,


If you can find an example where this doesn't happen, I'd like to see



I guess we will not find an example :-(.

In numbered paragraphs, the numbers are usually followed by a "Tab".

Alternatively you could choose "Space" or "Nothing".

The Tab however, and the Space as well, will be formatted with Arial.

(Maybe, it's easier to convert the tab stop values?)



The item was also discussed in a German forum one year ago:

http://answers.microsoft.com/de-de/...00?msgId=73d6ab01-838b-4e40-b560-cb9f9d34d926



--

Cheers,

Lisa [MS MVP Word]
 
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