Building a PC, got new license but no XP Pro Media

[Backfirewarrior]

I'm building my own PC for the first time. I got 2 XP pro, on Desktop from
Dell and one laptop from Gateway and both are pre-installed XP Pro on it,
comes with restore CD.

Anyway, I have everything set up and the new PC boot up fine till it
searches for OS (Yehhhey), but only need the goddamn XP Pro OEM CD. I bought
a additional license (only product key code and its sticker) for $60. But
I'm in need with stupid CD because the restore CD from Dell and Gateway
wouldn't work. I should have known it wouldn't work, I'm such a dummy!

Is there anyway I could buy just the stupid OEM XP Pro CD? After searching
the web using google, I saw this XP Pro Media Kit from CDW.com (see the link
below) but description of the items seems vague. I don't know if that one is
for display on store (i.e. like fake item for display purposes on store like
the one you would see on Office Depot, CompUSA,etc with the real one) or the
real CD for installing Windows on new computer.

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=482786

Please reply to this as soon as possible. TIA

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

The OEM CDs that you are trying to use are tied directly and permanently to
the machines that they came with. You cannot use those CDs on another
machine,either with a new license or the one that came with the other
machines. You are going to have to buy either a NEW OEM disc with a piece
of hardware, or better yet buy the full retail version.

Bobby

 

[james]

if you bought an additional license it would have had to
have been for a retail copy since you can't buy an extra
license for oem software. you need a retail disk, you
can't use the ones you have unless you want to be a
PIRATE...arghhh matey...

 

[Greg R]

Bobby's got it wrong

Copy the i386 folder to a cd.
Then you can legally install on the computer your building. The
license you bought must be oem for this to work.

Use a windows 98se boot disk. command prompt
R:\i386\winnt.exe

R is your cd drive. Change if different

You may have remove an option from the boot.ini file
"C:\previous operating system" When it is done installing.


He bought an extra license.
Legally he could borrow a cd from a friend and use that license
To legally install xp. As long as the key is not pirated. It no
different then calling Microsoft to purchase an additional key.

He meats the hardware requirements because his building a new system.
All he need is a product key & coa which he got and a cd which he
needs. He could legally buy an oem cd without the hardware.

Oem key’s will work with oem cds-Not talking about oem custom cds.
Retail key’s will work with retail cds
Upgrade key’s will work with upgrade cds
Volume license keys will work with all.



Greg R

The OEM CDs that you are trying to use are tied directly and permanently to
the machines that they came with. You cannot use those CDs on another
machine,either with a new license or the one that came with the other
machines. You are going to have to buy either a NEW OEM disc with a piece
of hardware, or better yet buy the full retail version.

Bobby

http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/

 

[Greg R]

James,
Emachine by extra license for their oem computer.

If, he build a computer, he becomes a system builder. Even if it is
for himself

So what the difference?

See my the other post for full details

if you bought an additional license it would have had to
have been for a retail copy since you can't buy an extra
license for oem software. you need a retail disk, you
can't use the ones you have unless you want to be a
PIRATE...arghhh matey...

http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

Bobby's got it wrong

(Snip)

Nice work there...helping another person to illegally use an OEM disc....

He meats the hardware requirements because his building a new system.

How does one *MEAT* a requirement?

Oem key's will work with oem cds-Not talking about oem custom cds.

Wrong! Won't even justify this blanket statement. Some OEM CD keys will
work with other CD's, but legally you cannot do this.

Retail key's will work with retail cds

Finally got one right! Good going.

Upgrade key's will work with upgrade cds

Not in every case

Volume license keys will work with all.

Again, not in every case.


Bobby

 

[Greg R]

(Snip)

Nice work there...helping another person to illegally use an OEM disc....




How does one *MEAT* a requirement?

What I said is NOT illegal.
He meats the requirement of an oem cd. Because he is installing on a
brand new system. He is not transferring it the oem to another
computer. Remember he bought a license & coa (Certificate of
Authenticity) for $60.00 Microsoft has licenses resellers

If it was illegal Msft would of said something by now.

Wrong! Won't even justify this blanket statement. Some OEM CD keys will
work with other CD's, but legally you cannot do this.

Most will.
Emachine can legally do this. So why can't a system builder?

Finally got one right! Good going.


Not in every case



Again, not in every case.


Bobby

Greg R
http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

First of all; you are the one that has "it" wrong.

Secondly, use a freaking dictionary...*MEAT* is something that you eat.
You cannot *MEAT* a requirement.

You can, however, *MEET* a requirement.

You sir, in addition to being wrong about everything you posted, cannot
spell, and apparently cannot tell the difference between *MEAT* and *MEET*,
something your average sixth grader can do.

Until you can get your facts straight, and can garner at least a working
knowledge of the english language, I suggest that you simply STFU. You make
yourself look ignorant...although I will grant that that is not a difficult
task...making you look stupid is again something that your average sixth
grader can do,

Bobby

 

[Jim Macklin]

English should be capitalized.


--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


"NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
| First of all; you are the one that has "it" wrong.
|
| Secondly, use a freaking dictionary...*MEAT* is something
that you eat.
| You cannot *MEAT* a requirement.
|
| You can, however, *MEET* a requirement.
|
| You sir, in addition to being wrong about everything you
posted, cannot
| spell, and apparently cannot tell the difference between
*MEAT* and *MEET*,
| something your average sixth grader can do.
|
| Until you can get your facts straight, and can garner at
least a working
| knowledge of the english language, I suggest that you
simply STFU. You make
| yourself look ignorant...although I will grant that that
is not a difficult
| task...making you look stupid is again something that your
average sixth
| grader can do,
|
| Bobby
|
| | >
| >
| >>On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:26:22 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
| >><mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote:
| >
| >>
| >>| >>> Bobby's got it wrong
| >>
| >>(Snip)
| >>
| >>Nice work there...helping another person to illegally
use an OEM disc....
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>> He meats the hardware requirements because his
building a new system.
| >>
| >>How does one *MEAT* a requirement?
| >>
| >
| > What I said is NOT illegal.
| > He meats the requirement of an oem cd. Because he is
installing on a
| > brand new system. He is not transferring it the oem to
another
| > computer. Remember he bought a license & coa
(Certificate of
| > Authenticity) for $60.00 Microsoft has licenses
resellers
| >
| > If it was illegal Msft would of said something by now.
| >
| >
| >>> Oem key's will work with oem cds-Not talking about oem
custom cds.
| >>
| >>Wrong! Won't even justify this blanket statement.
Some OEM CD keys will
| >>work with other CD's, but legally you cannot do this.
| > Most will.
| > Emachine can legally do this. So why can't a system
builder?
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >>
| >>> Retail key's will work with retail cds
| >>
| >>Finally got one right! Good going.
| >>
| >>> Upgrade key's will work with upgrade cds
| >>
| >>Not in every case
| >>
| >>
| >>> Volume license keys will work with all.
| >>
| >>Again, not in every case.
| >>
| >>
| >>Bobby
| >>
| >
| >
| > Greg R
| > http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/
|
|

 

[Greg R]

Well, I was in a hurry. My spell checker said it was ok. I got to
watch that with some words. You still did not answer my questions.
However, I have some further questions.

Emachine, Dell, Hp can use an oem cd to install xp on their computers.
They don’t provide oem disk to their customers.

If Emachine, Dell, Hp can do it, why can’t anyone else?

He is building his own computer. Which makes him a system builder.
He should have the same rights as emachine does or another system
builder does. Just like if I decide to build my own system. System
builders can order tons of oem cd without the hardware.

I have read a previous thread on this same subject. I tend to agree
with the other person.


Greg R

Snip




http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

HP, dell, etc come with a hidden partition that has an image of the OEM CD.
There is the option to make your own Restore CD from the partition. The
partition is exactly the same as if they sent a model specific OEM
disc...cannot be transferred to another machine, etc. Where your logic
fails is this...

IF you go to CompUSA, eBay, etc, and buy an OEM version of Windows XP with a
qualifying piece of hardware, you can install it to any machine the first
time. Thereafter, it cannot be transferred to any other machine. If you
buy an eMachines computer, you *CANNOT* use its OEM CD to install to another
machine. Same with HP. Same with Toshiba. Same with any brand. Once an
OEM disc is installed on a particular machine, it is bound to that machine.

Read the EULA. Educate yourself. We are talking Licensing here. If you
had any inkling of what you were talking about, we wouldn't have to be
wasting time on this stupid thread.

For the benefit of others who are reading this...

Once an OEM disc is activated, it is tied to the hardware it was activated
on.
No manufacturer ships with an OEM disc and Number than can be placed on any
machine you feel like. Never have, never will. If you want a copy of
Windows that CAN be transferred to another machine, number and all, then
your only option is to purchase a Retail (non-OEM) disc. Please do not take
what Greg R. posted as being anywhere near the truth.

Bobby

 

[Greg R]

To All,

Don’t listen to Bobby aka nonobaddog

I am not disagreeing with bobby once an oem is installed it can't be
transferred. However, that does not mean you can’t use the same cd
with a different product key & coa to install it on another machine or
the i386 folder.

He keeps forgetting. He is using another product key with a COA.
He is not using the SAME product key. Microsoft would accept this as a
legal installation. If he used the same product key then it would be
illegal for an oem.

If he wanted to purchase 5 oem product keys with a coa and install on
5 different machine he could do that using one oem disk or the i386
folder.

He is building a new system. So that covers his hardware requirement.

Otherwise, If we stuck with bobby standards. Then emachine and
others would have to use a different cd to install xp on each of their
computers before they could sell them. Which I doubt they do.


snip


Greg R




http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

Read your previous posts. That is not what you claimed. You claimed you
could take an eMachines OEM CD and install it on another machine using the
same key that was on the eMachines. If you can't keep your own story
straight, how can you hope to post a convincing argument?

I never stated a different CD was needed. I stated that a different key was
needed. This is nothing new. YOU were the one who originally claimed that
ANY OEM CD could be transferred, key included, which is NOT correct. That
is the point I was trying to make.

As a personal note...whether it is alcohol or drugs causing your problems,
there is help available, and much of it is free.

Bobby

 

[Alex Nichol]

Anyway, I have everything set up and the new PC boot up fine till it
searches for OS (Yehhhey), but only need the goddamn XP Pro OEM CD. I bought
a additional license (only product key code and its sticker) for $60. But
I'm in need with stupid CD because the restore CD from Dell and Gateway
wouldn't work. I should have known it wouldn't work, I'm such a dummy!

Where did you buy that from? At that price it is extremely unlikely to
be legitimate; and Microsoft has no provision for selling just licenses
in this way, other than to system builders for machine *they* are
building

 

[Greg R]

You are rude. I don’t appreciate your comments. I think it you who
has a problem. My grammar is a little bad at times. I can’t help
that. That is do to my disability if you must know.

I done arguing with you.

If you read my post correctly. You would see I was telling the op it
was ok to use another oem cd or i386 folder with the NEW product key
and coa he purchased. As long as that key was not pirated.


Greg R

 

[Jim Macklin]

There are two kinds of OEM CDs... [to the Backfirewarrior]
companies such as Dell, HP/Compaq, and Gateway/eMachines buy
the right from MS to create their own custom operating
system for installation on their machines only. Such
branded OS CDs are designed, licensed and usually limited,
so they will only install on a machine with a mobo or BIOS
(or maybe a special file on the hard drive.
An OEM CD sold by MS is limited to being installed on one
machine per COA. The product keys used by MS work only
with the same version , the XP Home CD uses a different
range of keys than XP Pro and retail uses different than OEM
versions of the "same" product.

Your new PC can use a branded CD only if it is that brand.
Since you have bought a MS COA and product key you need to
have a MS labeled CD. If you have a valid COA that has not
been used before you can find somebody to buy it. Since you
don't have a genuine OEM MS CD to start with, you were not
entitled to buy and use an additional COA.

You can buy an Microsoft OEM XP Pro CD and license, here is
a list of suppliers
www.newegg.com www.tigerdirect.com You can find more on
www.pricewatch.com Just read the product description and
avoid eBay where people like you sell their without a proper
description.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


message | Backfirewarrior wrote:
|
| >Anyway, I have everything set up and the new PC boot up
fine till it
| >searches for OS (Yehhhey), but only need the goddamn XP
Pro OEM CD. I bought
| >a additional license (only product key code and its
sticker) for $60. But
| >I'm in need with stupid CD because the restore CD from
Dell and Gateway
| >wouldn't work. I should have known it wouldn't work, I'm
such a dummy!
|
| Where did you buy that from? At that price it is
extremely unlikely to
| be legitimate; and Microsoft has no provision for selling
just licenses
| in this way, other than to system builders for machine
*they* are
| building
|
|
| --
| Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
| Bournemouth, U.K. (e-mail address removed)8E8L.org (remove the D8
bit)

 

[Wislu PLethora]

-----Original Message-----
Read your previous posts. That is not what you claimed. You claimed you
could take an eMachines OEM CD and install it on another machine using the
same key that was on the eMachines. If you can't keep your own story
straight, how can you hope to post a convincing argument?

I never stated a different CD was needed. I stated that a different key was
needed. This is nothing new. YOU were the one who originally claimed that
ANY OEM CD could be transferred, key included, which is NOT correct. That
is the point I was trying to make.

As a personal note...whether it is alcohol or drugs causing your problems,
there is help available, and much of it is free.

Bobby

Part of the great fun of these NGs is seeing a battle of
wits between two unarmed combatants.