"Bird Chirping" Noise Hard drive, seagate only?

B

Bob Brown INC.

Got a 7200.10 drive, the 320gb sata II one
It has LOADS of complaints of BIRD CHIRPING noises, many many
complaints.

I see this for no other hard drive, nothing near this many complaints.

It's happening to me, yet the drive never freezes, gives errors or
fails to boot or load programs.
It's FAST, so what is the deal?
Shouldn't a failing hard drive have more symptoms than that BIRD
CHIRPING sound?

It seriously sounds like you have a PARROT or some BIRD chirping,
chirp, now and then, in your room.
 
M

mohamed.samsudeen

Got a 7200.10 drive, the 320gb sata II one
It has LOADS of complaints of BIRD CHIRPING noises, many many
complaints.

I see this for no other hard drive, nothing near this many complaints.

It's happening to me, yet the drive never freezes, gives errors or
fails to boot or load programs.
It's FAST, so what is the deal?
Shouldn't a failing hard drive have more symptoms than that BIRD
CHIRPING sound?

It seriously sounds like you have a PARROT or some BIRD chirping,
chirp, now and then, in your room.

most likely it's a head to head interface maybe one day it might
spontenaously crash
 
P

Paul

Bob said:
Got a 7200.10 drive, the 320gb sata II one
It has LOADS of complaints of BIRD CHIRPING noises, many many
complaints.

I see this for no other hard drive, nothing near this many complaints.

It's happening to me, yet the drive never freezes, gives errors or
fails to boot or load programs.
It's FAST, so what is the deal?
Shouldn't a failing hard drive have more symptoms than that BIRD
CHIRPING sound?

It seriously sounds like you have a PARROT or some BIRD chirping,
chirp, now and then, in your room.

There have been drives, that have internal maintenance operations
at regular intervals. There was a SCSI drive, for example, that
made a loud noise like you describe, every 71 seconds. Since that
SCSI drive was intended for server environments, the designers
never considered someone would use it in a home computer.

This manual is for a Seagate 7200.10 SATA - see PDF page 15

http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/manuals/sata/100402371a.pdf

" **During periods of drive idle, some offline
activity may occur according to the S.M.A.R.T. specification,
which may increase acoustic and power to operational levels."

If you have that disk backed up some where, you could
try playing with the Hitachi Feature Tool. There is a
manual here as well.

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/downloads/FTool_User_Guide_205.pdf

You could try disabling SMART, and see if the chirping stops.

Note that the support for some of those commands, is spotty.
Different manufacturers do different things, and so some of the
options offered in that program will not work in any observable
way. So be careful with that program, and do a bit of Googling
first on the various options, before "flipping every lever" in there :)

Paul
 
K

kony

Got a 7200.10 drive, the 320gb sata II one
It has LOADS of complaints of BIRD CHIRPING noises, many many
complaints.

I see this for no other hard drive, nothing near this many complaints.

It's happening to me, yet the drive never freezes, gives errors or
fails to boot or load programs.
It's FAST, so what is the deal?
Shouldn't a failing hard drive have more symptoms than that BIRD
CHIRPING sound?

It seriously sounds like you have a PARROT or some BIRD chirping,
chirp, now and then, in your room.


I hope you have a full backup, all the desktop drives I've
heard make that sound failed within a few months (if not far
sooner).
 
B

Bob Brown INC.

On Tue, 08 May 2007 16:27:26 -0400, Paul <[email protected]> Let
everyone including the NSAs Internet database storage program know as
they typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the
following:
There have been drives, that have internal maintenance operations
at regular intervals. There was a SCSI drive, for example, that
made a loud noise like you describe, every 71 seconds. Since that
SCSI drive was intended for server environments, the designers
never considered someone would use it in a home computer.

This manual is for a Seagate 7200.10 SATA - see PDF page 15

http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/manuals/sata/100402371a.pdf

" **During periods of drive idle, some offline
activity may occur according to the S.M.A.R.T. specification,
which may increase acoustic and power to operational levels."

If you have that disk backed up some where, you could
try playing with the Hitachi Feature Tool. There is a
manual here as well.

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/downloads/FTool_User_Guide_205.pdf

You could try disabling SMART, and see if the chirping stops.

Note that the support for some of those commands, is spotty.
Different manufacturers do different things, and so some of the
options offered in that program will not work in any observable
way. So be careful with that program, and do a bit of Googling
first on the various options, before "flipping every lever" in there :)

Paul

thanks for the info, help..
 
E

ed jurewicz

Just had a seagate drive go south on me and the symptom wasn't quite a bird
chirping but an intermittant high pitched noise that got progressively worse
over ashort period of time time. I actually thought it was one of the fans
and spent a bit of time inside the computer removing and replacing them.
Finally traced it to the hard drive which was less than 6 months old when I
started having troubles on boot up. This was a 250 g drive.
 
F

Frank McCoy

Just had a seagate drive go south on me and the symptom wasn't quite a bird
chirping but an intermittant high pitched noise that got progressively worse
over ashort period of time time. I actually thought it was one of the fans
and spent a bit of time inside the computer removing and replacing them.
Finally traced it to the hard drive which was less than 6 months old when I
started having troubles on boot up. This was a 250 g drive.
Probably bearings going bad.
Sometimes you can get them to run temporarily, long enough to extract a
frisbee, by rocking them. That's rotating them (flat-wise, like you
would a frisbee) and then *yanking* them back in the opposite direction.
Also works for drives with stiction problems.

If however, you have either, then you really need to save your files
before the drive really does crap out completely.

Once you start hearing funny noises from a drive, it's time to backup in
a hurry!
 
F

FKS

I have 7 Seagate hdd's and 2 SATAII 320GB drives occasionally make bird
chirping sound. But, it's very faint.

I've had 2 hdd's gone bad in my 17 years of my PC use (a Fujitsu & a WD).
They never gave me a warning sign. They suddely died.
 
J

James White

Got a 7200.10 drive, the 320gb sata II one
It has LOADS of complaints of BIRD CHIRPING noises, many many
complaints.

I like Seagate and all of my newer drives are from them. Mainly because
they work good and back in the old days (mid 90's) they were the only
manufacturer that would replace a bad drive no questions asked.

But, I have one new 200gb EIDE drive that chirps about once every 3 or 4
minutes. I haven't bothered to go through the replacement process
(yet) because it is used as a temporary cache that will lose nothing if it
fails, and I am curious if the chirp is an indication of a defect, or just
a component that is slightly off key (like aftermarket brake pads -
nothing wrong with the pads, they just squeak).

JW
 
F

Frank McCoy

I like Seagate and all of my newer drives are from them. Mainly because
they work good and back in the old days (mid 90's) they were the only
manufacturer that would replace a bad drive no questions asked.

But, I have one new 200gb EIDE drive that chirps about once every 3 or 4
minutes. I haven't bothered to go through the replacement process
(yet) because it is used as a temporary cache that will lose nothing if it
fails, and I am curious if the chirp is an indication of a defect, or just
a component that is slightly off key (like aftermarket brake pads -
nothing wrong with the pads, they just squeak).
If it's periodic and regular; I'd suspect some internal houskeeping on
the drive. You'd think they'd catch the extra noise during Product
Assurance though, if that's the case.
 
B

Bob Brown INC.

So should I avoid seagate or just certian capacities?

Mines a 320GB, yours a 250G, which should I get?

On Wed, 9 May 2007 09:47:16 -0400, "ed jurewicz"
<ejurewicz@comcastnet> Let everyone including the NSAs Internet
database storage program know as they typed on their keyboard faster
than a monkey on crack the following:
 
B

Bob M

Bob said:
So should I avoid seagate or just certian capacities?

Mines a 320GB, yours a 250G, which should I get?

On Wed, 9 May 2007 09:47:16 -0400, "ed jurewicz"
<ejurewicz@comcastnet> Let everyone including the NSAs Internet
database storage program know as they typed on their keyboard faster
than a monkey on crack the following:

I swear by Maxtor drives. Some people here don't like them. But I'm
running 7 of them including a 6 year old one in a PVR and not one hint
of a problem out of them. But I also keep my drives cool and I think
that has a lot to do with why they are still running like new. I've had
2 drives dier on me over the years. One was a WD and the other an IBM
Deathstar.

Bob
 
B

Bob Brown INC.

On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:31:30 -0500, Bob M <[email protected]> Let
everyone including the NSAs Internet database storage program know as
they typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the
following:
I swear by Maxtor drives. Some people here don't like them. But I'm
running 7 of them including a 6 year old one in a PVR and not one hint
of a problem out of them. But I also keep my drives cool and I think
that has a lot to do with why they are still running like new. I've had
2 drives dier on me over the years. One was a WD and the other an IBM
Deathstar.

Bob

Maxtor=WD now
 
B

Bob M

Bob said:
On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:31:30 -0500, Bob M <[email protected]> Let
everyone including the NSAs Internet database storage program know as
they typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the
following:




Maxtor=WD now

Nope you're wrong. Maxtor = Seagate now.
 

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