bios updates

[jf]

Why are there so many bios update problems with Asus? Why don't they
figure out what works and post it and quit posting stuff that doesn't
work. Do you use EZbios update, do you boot in dos, do you update from
windows. Just pick one and fix it. I've read so many complaints that
there should be a class action lawsuit against Asus if they are
posting something that destroys the board.

P4C800
P4 2.8c

 

[{SFU}Xeon]

I myself didn't have a problem updating the bios in my A7N8X-X mobo. I used
the windows based AsusUpdate, worked like a charm, and now, my bios will
accept upto 600mhz FSB, and my 1gb of Geil pc3200 ram runs at 200mhz <400
actual>. Perhaps there are alot of amature's or wanna B's trying to flash
the bios ehy?

A7N8X-X
XP2500
ATI Radeon 9800 pro
1gb PC3200 Geil
and a partrage in a pear tree.....

{SFU}Xeon

 

[rstlne]

I myself didn't have a problem updating the bios in my A7N8X-X mobo. I used
the windows based AsusUpdate, worked like a charm, and now, my bios will
accept upto 600mhz FSB, and my 1gb of Geil pc3200 ram runs at 200mhz <400
actual>. Perhaps there are alot of amature's or wanna B's trying to flash
the bios ehy?

A7N8X-X
XP2500
ATI Radeon 9800 pro
1gb PC3200 Geil
and a partrage in a pear tree.....

{SFU}Xeon

Dear God
How can you (in saying all that crap you said) say anything about "Amature
Wanna B"

 

[Jim]

Dear God
How can you (in saying all that crap you said) say anything about "Amature
Wanna B"

Load.....Take aim.....Blow foot off!

LMFAO

Jim

 

[Arthur]

Anyone trusting Windoze to a BIOS update is a real amateur or dumb.

What are the odds of a Windoze abend, blue screen, or worse as apposed
to KISS DOS? Asus is doing users a real disservice IMO promoting a
less secure and reliable BIOS update program for the sake of glitz,
laziness, and incompetent users who should not be updating a BIOS if
they can not deal with DOS..

That's Keep It Simple, Stupid in case you don't know.
arthur

 

[Rocky]

Anyone trusting Windoze to a BIOS update is a real amateur or dumb.

What are the odds of a Windoze abend, blue screen, or worse as apposed
to KISS DOS? Asus is doing users a real disservice IMO promoting a
less secure and reliable BIOS update program for the sake of glitz,
laziness, and incompetent users who should not be updating a BIOS if
they can not deal with DOS..

That's Keep It Simple, Stupid in case you don't know.
arthur

 

[Rocky]

Anyone trusting Windoze to a BIOS update is a real amateur or dumb.

What are the odds of a Windoze abend, blue screen, or worse as apposed
to KISS DOS? Asus is doing users a real disservice IMO promoting a
less secure and reliable BIOS update program for the sake of glitz,
laziness, and incompetent users who should not be updating a BIOS if
they can not deal with DOS..

Can you substantiate the "less... reliable" bit of your rant, this "amatuer"
would like to know if there is an issue, or if your post is just a rant.


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[rstlne]

Anyone trusting Windoze to a BIOS update is a real amateur or dumb.

What are the odds of a Windoze abend, blue screen, or worse as apposed
to KISS DOS? Asus is doing users a real disservice IMO promoting a
less secure and reliable BIOS update program for the sake of glitz,
laziness, and incompetent users who should not be updating a BIOS if
they can not deal with DOS..

That's Keep It Simple, Stupid in case you don't know.
arthur

Sadly that's the way the pc market has gone, It's for non-technial people

 

[rstlne]

Can you substantiate the "less... reliable" bit of your rant, this "amatuer"
would like to know if there is an issue, or if your post is just a rant.

Windows is not verry reliable..
now I dont know HOW They do it BUT they could modify the MBR and point to
the flash program (so when the pc reboots then it reboots in dos, attempts
to flash, then modify's the MBR back for the windows boot) but I dont know
if they do that, if they are flashing from within windows then I would have
to say that I dont think it's a verry wise thing but compared to pre W2k (or
XP) systems then it would have been a complete mistake..
Even NT wasnt stable at some stuff, 98 and below would be horrid.

 

[{SFU}Xeon]

beats me, did I say something sub standard to you? I think I have a pretty
decent system, as a matter of fact, every system I've built has never had
any technical problems..... Perhaps you're confused?

 

[Ken]

Windows is not verry reliable..

? I used Windows NT4 for 3 years whithout any krasch or instability.

 

[rstlne]

beats me, did I say something sub standard to you? I think I have a pretty
decent system, as a matter of fact, every system I've built has never had
any technical problems..... Perhaps you're confused?

I would like for you to give me a link showing your 600mhz FSB setting being
accepted AND working..
And it took a bios update for you to get your PC3200 running @ 200fsb
(strange there also)..

But YES I would love to see your 600mhz fsb setting "WORKING"

 

[rstlne]

? I used Windows NT4 for 3 years whithout any krasch or instability.

I used Windows NT4 in a work environment and found that 3 of the pc's it was
on ran verry unstable (all dells).
Some of the other pc's were verry reliable..
ON TOP OF THAT, Configuration changes seem'd to stuff NT (at least for the
cards that we were using) and I have to wonder what flashing a bios would do
to NT4 or even todays XP..
I know it "Shouldnt" do anything, but I have no doubt that it's possible
that it'd **** something

 

[T009]

used Windows NT4 for 3 years whithout any krasch or instability.>>>

You mean 'crash' dont you

 

[Ken]

used Windows NT4 for 3 years whithout any krasch or instability.>>>

You mean 'crash' dont you

Yes. That is some Swedish spelling
But I think you understand Swedish, don't you?

 

[Andy Lee]

Sadly that's the way the pc market has gone, It's for non-technial people

Why is it sad? does it mean that other people can play in your sandpit
now and you don't like it.

 

[Andy Lee]

Anyone trusting Windoze to a BIOS update is a real amateur or dumb.

Yeah yeah yeah strange that in using the windows update tool for as
long as it's been out and I've been usunig ASUS boards I've never had
a problem with it. Mind you I've used plenty of DOS based flash
programs and never had a problem with those either.


I've also tried the ROM based flash progam and that worked as well
maybe I'm lucky but they all worked just fine for me.

What are the odds of a Windoze abend, blue screen, or worse as apposed
to KISS DOS? Asus is doing users a real disservice IMO promoting a
less secure and reliable BIOS update program for the sake of glitz,
laziness, and incompetent users who should not be updating a BIOS if
they can not deal with DOS..

What does having the ability to use DOS have to do with updating the
BIOs on a m/b how about all those Linux users they seem to manage ok
with out it. Maybe it's you who has a problem using Windows based
progams and can only manage simple DOS based programs.

 

[rstlne]

Sadly that's the way the pc market has gone, It's for non-technial people

Why is it sad? does it mean that other people can play in your sandpit
now and you don't like it.

No, It's cause everything becomes so "Simplified" for the Morons that if I
have a technical query then it will never get answerd as mindless drones
dont have anything other than answers for the morons..

It's like my ISP's Tech staff telling me that they dont have anything called
"DNS Servers"
Or asking asus "How many mA does the USB port provide" and getting asked
"What OS did you install"

But Hey, I have saved users THOUSANDS of Dollars (and now a few hundred £)
by simply doing things like Plugging in the Mouse/KB or even plugging the
power cable into the printer. But Hey, It's MY ****ing sandpit and I can
say what I like about it.

 

[R. J. Sutherland]

? I used Windows NT4 for 3 years whithout any krasch or instability.

Yeah, me too. I might have stayed with it yet if had only been updated to
support USB. It was the last of its kind, written mainly by people who actually
knew what they were doing (ie. non-Microsofties). Stability has declined with
Win2k and XP as typical MS featureism, glitz and tweeness has taken over. <sigh>
(And I'll politely refrain from saying anything at all about Windows File
Protection...!)

 

[P2B]

Yeah, me too. I might have stayed with it yet if had only been updated to
support USB. It was the last of its kind, written mainly by people who actually
knew what they were doing (ie. non-Microsofties). Stability has declined with
Win2k and XP as typical MS featureism, glitz and tweeness has taken over. <sigh>
(And I'll politely refrain from saying anything at all about Windows File
Protection...!)

I was almost ready to give up on NT4 for the same reason, then I found a
USB driver on Dell's FTP site - it doesn't support all devices, but does
the job for me.

However, I'll have to bite the bullet soon - IIRC M$ plan to cease
releasing security patches for NT4 early next year. I'm not looking
forward to the migration as I've been running XP Pro on my test machine
(identical hardware to my main system) and stability has not been it's
strong suit...

P2B