Best MS product for web database stuff

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Clark

Maybe this isn't the best forum to ask this, but here goes.

I have used FP2000 successfully for my database driven site with
considerable digging through references and an occasional code snippet
from places like this.

But if I wanted to move to a next, more versatile level of database
interaction by the web user, should I be thinking of a different
microsoft product such as Interdev? I am thinking of things like the
ability for a user to easily log in and modify their own database record
-- more sophisticated things than can *easily* be done with FP.

Thanks
 
I would agree with Mike. However, you could certainly use FrontPage or
Visual Interdev to develop classic ASP.

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Kevin said:
I would agree with Mike. However, you could certainly use FrontPage or
Visual Interdev to develop classic ASP.
Click to expand...

Just keep in mind that Microsoft's support of Visual InterDev is due to end
later this year.


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Good point, Jim. I've always preferred FrontPage for classic ASP in any
case!

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Kevin Spencer
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The key developing "sophisticated" applications is not by using FP or Interdev and relying on any
built-in components, but learning how to hand code your ASP. I use still use FP2000 for all ASP
development, but do not use any of the FP database components.

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Kevin said:
Good point, Jim. I've always preferred FrontPage for classic ASP in
any case!
Click to expand...

I use FrontPage as well when I write legacy ASP, but I rarely do these days.
:)

One disadvantage of using FrontPage is the lack of a debugger.

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One disadvantage of using FrontPage is the lack of a debugger.

Definitely. But it is better when it comes to the HTML, and I always used
Response.Writes to do my debugging with classic ASP. Of course, thank
goodness, we have ASP.Net. I still use FrontPage to do the HTML part of my
ASP.Net stuff, and Visual Studio.Net for everything else!

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Kevin Spencer
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So I gather from all the *useful* input from this section of the thread
that Front Page + asp.net + visual studio.net is one viable solution set
to consider.
 
Hi Tom. I must have a psychic streak in me because I knew you were going
to prod me again to really learn active server pages. The thing is, I
figure active server pages have been around long enough now that the
tools available ought to be good enough to do the heavy lifting for me.
Just like when I learned html and then found that the tools had advanced
to the point where I didnt need it for anything other than minor editing
of code generated using the tools.

I dont care if the code is a little ineffecient like the stuff the
database results wizard generates is, so long as it works. My goal is
really to get to that next level of site capabalility without having to
write the code. I know, I know it's easy to learn asp -- but if I can
put in the same amount of time learning an advanced tool that does the
work for me, hey, this isnt a job, it's a retiree having some fun. :=)

Clark
 
That CodeCharge Studio looks interesting. I will definitely research
that some more. Thanks for mentioning it, i had not heard of it before.

Clark
 
The thing is, the "next level" IS writing your own code.

Automagical is fine - to a point. But, the flexibility you have, and the
amount of knowledge gained by using these is virtually nill.

Bob Lehmann
 
Then the best option is to search for pre-written application that can do 90% of what you want, then
adjust your wants and needs for the other 10%. As you will not find any editor that will generate a
complete application with everything that you would want or need, without you have to learn ASP, or
ASP.net, etc., unless your wants and needs are very simple.

If your needs are very simple you can find ASP application that can take a Access database and
automatically create the input, edit and delete forms and coding but that is about it, you still
need to learn to code to make the pages into a completely functional application.

Learning Classic ASP can be fun and I continue to enjoy learning to code new functions.
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I will add that CodeCharge Studio looks like a interesting Application but has a very interesting
approach toward licensing.

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that "find an app and modify it" philosophy is probably the most important
tip I've ever picked up. it's a good way to get rapid success and it's a
good way to get your feet wet and learn the coding (for me at least).

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G.S.,
How do you mean "it plugs into fp"? Not snide, inquisitive.

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You can say that again. That non-perpetual license is wierd, I mean who
wants to pay an annual subscription fee for software. And $500 for the
"perpetual" version is a tad steep. Still, I have to say that it sounds
pretty interesting and seems like the kind of thing you could start
learning the asp by "example"
 
Have you actually used the program, or is your comment based on reading
about it (it really does look interesting)?
 

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