Bearshare

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MS Beta Public

Had an old machine going to be formatted for Lunix (sorry, MS)

So, running 613, I downloaded Bearshare and installed (since it has known
spyware) MSAS correctly identified and removed Save! and a few others.

I had the toast popup regarding Bearshare, when I went to launch it. I told
it that I wanted to run it anyway (I forget exactly what the toast said, but
it was to be expected.) After that, MSAS prompted me TWICE more about my
decision, both times using standard Windows messageboxes (after the 'pretty'
toast, the messagebox was kind of ugly..)

Finally, MSAS stopped asking, but Bearshare crashed without ever showing
it's window (I had to kill it with TaskMananger) Subsequent restarts of
Bearshare worked properly with no warnings from MSAS.

I'm a bit concerned that other 'real' software will get blocked, and fail to
work when the user allows the software to run, causing less sophisticated
users some grief. I would expect the MSAS block should be transparent to
the software, and it should function after.

Besides the "are you sure.." "are you really sure.." "are you sure you're
really sure.." is a bit annoying.

Anyway, just my experience. Can't go back to the machine for anymore
details now.

-jim
Golden Crater Software
 
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Bill Sanderson

Surely running Lunix is Lunixy!

I've done what you mention with Bearshare in the past on a machine running
both Microsoft Antispyware and a beta of Norton's antispyware product. I
didn't have any problems with Bearshare functionality, and I got lots of
prompts which I can't recall the details of right now.

I'd be happy to hear--preferably in .appcompat--from anyone else who feels
that having Microsoft Antispyware installed interfered with installation and
operation of a peer-to-peer (or any other) app--that's certainly not the
intention and I don't think the experience of most users.
 
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plun

Linuxgirl formulated the question :
That's not the way you spell "Luxury", Bill. :)

Linuxgirl !!!

Latest fashion in our great Windows world
is to use 7-Zip for uncompressing MS software........

:')
 
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Linuxgirl

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Linuxgirl formulated the question :

Linuxgirl !!!

Latest fashion in our great Windows world
is to use 7-Zip for uncompressing MS software........

:')

And it's free....... :)
 
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MS Beta Public

Hi Bill

The multiple prompts and lockup was just the first time 'round. After the
1st time, it seemed fine. What caught my attention, after the multiple
prompts is that Bearshare never came up, I tried running a 2nd time, still
didn't come up, and I checked TaskMan at that point, bearshare was running,
taking <1MB and 0CPU. I suppose a 2nd instance won't start if one is
running.

Actually, I messed up and installed Bearshare 1st, then MSAS, scanned
(killed off Save, etc.) , rebooted, then launched Bearshare. So, I don't
really know about the install.

Anyhow, since the machine is no longer with us in MS World, that's all the
details I can remember. Oh, except it was a 'clean' install from the
recovery CDs.. 'Clean' meaning only 400+MB of software, drivers, and
wallpapers pre-installed, including NAV 2003. ;-)

P.S. The box is for an 'embedded' type application.. I wanted WinCE, but
lost the battle. Something about hardware availability, off-the-shelf
motherboards, and other pointless monetary concerns...... :grin:

(does this mean I 'Winced' at your 'Lunacy' pun? I need a shot of
'Punicillin' to stop this -- really OT now....)

-jim
 
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Bill Sanderson

MS Beta Public said:
Hi Bill

(does this mean I 'Winced' at your 'Lunacy' pun? I need a shot of
'Punicillin' to stop this -- really OT now....)

-jim

Stop that right now or I'll have to get this thread removed by the censors!

One of the strengths of Microsoft Antispyware is the real-time
protection--it's very educational to watch a bearshare install and
subsequent events with the alerts provided by Microsoft Antispyware. You
know about the items that you assent to, and which are listed in add/remove
programs, etc. However, in my experience, they are followed by further
payloads which you don't get a separate assent for, and which are not listed
in add or remove programs. Bearshare looks pretty tame on the surface--lots
of good disclosures and reasonably clear eulas, and ads labelled by the
provider, etc--but there's still some bad stuff going on--or at least was
last I tried it, a couple of months ago. And all that's aside from the
issue of whether what you get via the network is what you are expecting to
get.
 

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