Back up

[Guest]

I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a re-installation
DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double clicking
the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any suggestions
where I might be going wrong, please.

 

[John Barnett MVP]

Most probable is that Dell have left the backup application off the
re-installation disk. Some manufacturer's do this and, instead, post the
NTbackup.exe file on their support website. The file isn't particularly
large, so check the Dell support site first. If you can't find it on the
Dell support site then visit my website http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Click the Contact Me tab and email me using the email address on the webpage
and I will send you the file. Please put "NTBackup File Request" in the
subject line of your email otherwise my spam filter will automatically
delete it.

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Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

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[Harry Ohrn]

The NTBackup program is a highly stripped down version of a program called
Backup MyPC which originated with Veritas then went to Stomp Inc and is now
distributed through Roxio. No loss for you not having it as the NTBackup
program cannot burn directly to CD or DVD anyway. You have to save the file
to a billion floppies, or to a tape drive or hard drive first and then burn
the backup to disc. The NTBackup program that ships with Windows is for the
most part useless to home users. In addition to not being able to burn
directly to CD or DVD it can not split large files it creates into smaller
chunks so you can manually span a file across multiple CD's, it cannot
create an Automated System Recovery backup to recover your system state and
it is not backward compatible with earlier version of the same program.
Little wonder some OEM's choose to not include it. You'd be better off with
a decent backup program like the full version of Backup MyPC or a program
like Acronis TrueImage. These can backup to optical media, can span disc,
can create full system restore images and can be scheduled. Yes they cost a
few dollars but isn't your backups worth the cost?

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a re-installation
DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double clicking
the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any suggestions
where I might be going wrong, please.

You're not going wrong at all. Dell apparently didn't include the
file. However you can download ntbackup.msi at
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi

But be aware that as backup software goes, this is probably the
*worst* available choice. I strongly suggest that you investigate a
third-party choice like my personal favorite, Acronis True Image.

 

[Guest]

John,

Thanks very much.

I'll start with Dell and if there's no joy, I'll go to your site.

Thanks again,

 

[Guest]

Thanks Harry,

You're right, it's worth a few dollars (in my case £'s)

Thanks again,
--
p

The NTBackup program is a highly stripped down version of a program called
Backup MyPC which originated with Veritas then went to Stomp Inc and is now
distributed through Roxio. No loss for you not having it as the NTBackup
program cannot burn directly to CD or DVD anyway. You have to save the file
to a billion floppies, or to a tape drive or hard drive first and then burn
the backup to disc. The NTBackup program that ships with Windows is for the
most part useless to home users. In addition to not being able to burn
directly to CD or DVD it can not split large files it creates into smaller
chunks so you can manually span a file across multiple CD's, it cannot
create an Automated System Recovery backup to recover your system state and
it is not backward compatible with earlier version of the same program.
Little wonder some OEM's choose to not include it. You'd be better off with
a decent backup program like the full version of Backup MyPC or a program
like Acronis TrueImage. These can backup to optical media, can span disc,
can create full system restore images and can be scheduled. Yes they cost a
few dollars but isn't your backups worth the cost?

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a
re-installation
DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double
clicking
the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any suggestions
where I might be going wrong, please.

 

[DL]

Acronis can be had on Amazon at a very good price (£)

Thanks Harry,

You're right, it's worth a few dollars (in my case £'s)

Thanks again,
--
p

The NTBackup program is a highly stripped down version of a program
called
Backup MyPC which originated with Veritas then went to Stomp Inc and is
now
distributed through Roxio. No loss for you not having it as the NTBackup
program cannot burn directly to CD or DVD anyway. You have to save the
file
to a billion floppies, or to a tape drive or hard drive first and then
burn
the backup to disc. The NTBackup program that ships with Windows is for
the
most part useless to home users. In addition to not being able to burn
directly to CD or DVD it can not split large files it creates into
smaller
chunks so you can manually span a file across multiple CD's, it cannot
create an Automated System Recovery backup to recover your system state
and
it is not backward compatible with earlier version of the same program.
Little wonder some OEM's choose to not include it. You'd be better off
with
a decent backup program like the full version of Backup MyPC or a program
like Acronis TrueImage. These can backup to optical media, can span disc,
can create full system restore images and can be scheduled. Yes they cost
a
few dollars but isn't your backups worth the cost?

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a
re-installation
DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double
clicking
the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any
suggestions
where I might be going wrong, please.