B&W Photo Printer

B

Burtron

Hello-
I'm just bought & returned an HP 7960 PhotoSmart Printer soley because
of the way it guzzled ink. Unfortunately, it produced excellent black
& white photos, as well as color. I was about to purchase the Canon
i900D, until I read about how a professional photographer said in a
review that you have to adjust the B&W prints of the i900D by adding a
little green to take away the other color that shows up. So, it looks
as though I'm just going to have to wait until Canon comes out with
perhaps additional inks like shades of gray, etc. Anyway, I've thought
about just using a dedicated B&W Printer, but don't know which one to
look at - if there is one that's not over $250.00. I've got a lot of
old family photos that I'm scanning into Adobe Photo Elements - fixing
& enlarging. The few I did on the 7960 were really good, but I'm not
going to be forced by HP to buy new ink cartridges when all of the
colors have not been used up yet. It's just the principle of the
thing! I'd appreciate any suggestions that anyone might have. Thanks.
 
M

Mark Herring

Hello-
I'm just bought & returned an HP 7960 PhotoSmart Printer soley because
of the way it guzzled ink. Unfortunately, it produced excellent black
& white photos, as well as color. I was about to purchase the Canon
i900D, until I read about how a professional photographer said in a
review that you have to adjust the B&W prints of the i900D by adding a
little green to take away the other color that shows up. So, it looks
as though I'm just going to have to wait until Canon comes out with
perhaps additional inks like shades of gray, etc. Anyway, I've thought
about just using a dedicated B&W Printer, but don't know which one to
look at - if there is one that's not over $250.00. I've got a lot of
old family photos that I'm scanning into Adobe Photo Elements - fixing
& enlarging. The few I did on the 7960 were really good, but I'm not
going to be forced by HP to buy new ink cartridges when all of the
colors have not been used up yet. It's just the principle of the
thing! I'd appreciate any suggestions that anyone might have. Thanks.

There is a growing selection of 3rd party quadtone and reduced gamut
ink available. Look at MIS (inksupply),. mediastreet, Lyson, Amazon
ink (Pantone), Piezography----and more.

For a dedicated B&W printer, you can use a 4-color model. One often
cited example is the Epson 1160. Websites of the above vendors have
lots of info.

Epson 2200 is supposed to be good for B&W
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
 
R

Robert Peirce

Mark Herring said:
There is a growing selection of 3rd party quadtone and reduced gamut
ink available. Look at MIS (inksupply),. mediastreet, Lyson, Amazon
ink (Pantone), Piezography----and more.

For a dedicated B&W printer, you can use a 4-color model. One often
cited example is the Epson 1160. Websites of the above vendors have
lots of info.

Epson 2200 is supposed to be good for B&W
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

Unfortunately, for now, these sources seem only to support Epson
printers. Piezography is building support for the Canon i9100, which I
have, but they haven't released it yet. If anybody else is supporting
the i9100, I sure would like to know about it.
 
M

Mark Herring

Unfortunately, for now, these sources seem only to support Epson
printers. Piezography is building support for the Canon i9100, which I
have, but they haven't released it yet. If anybody else is supporting
the i9100, I sure would like to know about it.

If you want to refill cartridges or use a CIS, then you have lots of
choices.

Here's the Camel CIS for Canon:

http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/for_canon_324372_products.htm

Lyson--apparently only thru dealers:

http://www.lyson.com/includes/frames.html

**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
 
M

Mark Herring

Used B&W laser?

No----laser printers are not very good at photos
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
 
G

Gordon

Hello-
I'm just bought & returned an HP 7960 PhotoSmart Printer soley because
of the way it guzzled ink. Unfortunately, it produced excellent black
& white photos, as well as color. I was about to purchase the Canon
i900D, until I read about how a professional photographer said in a
clip...
I've been very happy with my Epson C80, but you have to select the
paper to make sure yor do not have any color shift from B&W (Glossy
paper only, on Mat paper the black cartridge is used.)

Gordon
 
B

Burtron

Mark Herring said:
No----laser printers are not very good at photos
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

Thanks, Mark - I was kind of thinking that Lazer Printers weren't
appropriate for any kind of good photo production. You're response was
a confirmation. Let me ask you about the "camel" system you mentioned.
If I understand you correctly, the camel basically replaces any ink
slots (color & B&W) with the camel ink only in the printer - Just like
with Piezography. Am I right? It sounds like I wouldn't be rotating
B&W's & color inks utilizing the same slots - Like I did with the HP
7960. Guess I would be making this printer a dedicated B&W printer?
Sounds pretty expensive to maintain this method. I'll just have to see
how much it means to me to do these old photos the right. Many Thanks
- And Regards
 
M

Mark Herring

Thanks, Mark - I was kind of thinking that Lazer Printers weren't
appropriate for any kind of good photo production. You're response was
a confirmation. Let me ask you about the "camel" system you mentioned.
If I understand you correctly, the camel basically replaces any ink
slots (color & B&W) with the camel ink only in the printer - Just like
with Piezography. Am I right? It sounds like I wouldn't be rotating
B&W's & color inks utilizing the same slots - Like I did with the HP
7960. Guess I would be making this printer a dedicated B&W printer?
Sounds pretty expensive to maintain this method. I'll just have to see
how much it means to me to do these old photos the right. Many Thanks
- And Regards

The Camel is just one brand of CIS---any of these replaces the
cartridges with a complete system including modified cartridges,
tubing, bottles, etc. You can change inks with a CIS but certainly
not as easily as if you use cartridges.

So far, I have 2 printers going---1 dye, 1 pigment. Using refill for
the carts in both cases. Will try filling some empty carts with
quadtone and then swapping in for the pigment ones---we'll see how
this works, but I suspect I will eventually have 3 printers---at least
two with CIS.
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
 

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