Audacity Beta + Vista

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species8350

I could not find a mixing function in the 1.2.6 version. Hence, I
could not record music played over the web.

I uninstalled this version, and decided to try the Beta version.
Although it has more options for Input/output (in preferences), I
still do not see a mixing option. I still cannot record what I hear on
the pc. Am I missing something in the Beta version (something that
needs enabling). Or am I going to have to accept that Audacity will
not record on my machine. The help in Beta is really lacking.

Thanks

PS: OS is Vista Home Premium (32bit)
 
T

Tiberius

Correction: it might be your audio "driveR" if its a sigmatel one...

But even if it IS your audio driver
VISTA CRAPWARE hides all the various inputs and makes it very hard to find
them. The way to find them is the link I posted...
I know this problem because I know vista, not like FRANK who is a monkey in
a man suite.

FRANK is one of the the worse total IDIOTS I have seen in a newsgroup
EVER...

He was among the top 3 idiots.. but latley he managed to climb to top 3,
because the other people where intelligent just had a crappy
attitude..
But frank is the REAL DEAL... idiot plus crappy attitude...
So I guess he is in for the bronze medal of NEWSGROUP IDIOTS, at least.. if
he keeps trying
he might even get a silver of gold....
He certainly seems dedicated in spewing limitless crap everywere he goes....
 
T

Tiberius

Correction: it might be your audio "driveR" if its a sigmatel one...

But even if it IS your audio driver
VISTA hides all the various inputs and makes it very hard to find them. The
way to find them is the link I posted...
 
T

Tiberius

dont mind frank... he is feeing GRUMPY because he attempted to shave off all
his fur, but it grew back on after only 12 hours!!!
 
J

Jane C

Thanks for the link. Realtek AC'97 here....enabled the Stereo Mix and it
works. Just had to tweak a few options in Audacity.
 
R

Robert Robinson

Microsoft has made extensive changes in the Vista/Windows Server 2008
audio interface in an effort to improve performance and to impose strict
Digital Rights Management (DRM). Unfortunately, the changes have proven
to be a catastrophe for users and vendors of audio converting hardware.
Windows XP/Server 2003 audio drivers do not work with Vista and the
implementation of Vista compatible drivers can be a complicated and time
consuming process. Even worse, depending on a specific implementation, a
driver may or not support the features that are required by individual
application programs.

A case in point is the capability of recording streaming data in real
time. Most Vista audio application programs require a digital Play Back
Device interface that comes under a variety of names including "Stereo
Mix", "What U Hear" and "Digital Audio Interface".
The application program will not be able to capture the audio unless one
of this interfaces is present. Its existence apparently depends on the
specific sound card device and the implementation of its driver. A
considerable amount has been written on this subject in various Internet
forums and Web sites. The user is unfortunately of out luck if his sound
card/driver combination doesn't support the required interface.

There are several ways to capture streaming audio data. The easiest is
to use a sound card/Vista driver combination that has a digital playback
interface as is described above.

Secondly, some cards have a software controllable audio loopback that
can provide similar capability. Examples are the LynxStudio L22 and the
RME HDSP 9632.

Finally, the analog output can be cable patched back to the analog input
of either the same sound card or a second card.

We have Audacity 1.3.3 beta running on Windows Server 2008 which shares
much code in common with Vista. Our RME HDSP 9632 sound card and its
driver do not support the "Playback Digital Interface" described above.
There is, however, a software controlled loopback function that works
perfectly with the Audacity beta. Audacity also works well with the L22
sound card which has similar loopback capability. We use the loopback
approach to capture streaming audio. The technical details are described
in more detail in the RME HDSP 9632 manual which is available on-line
at: http://www.rme-audio.com/english/download/hdsp9632_e.pdf
 
T

Tiberius

Ok Jane... but why, tell me why on earth did the vista designers do such
a hide and seek thing?

Don't tell me, they did it to remove the clutter...
the REAL REASON BEHIND THIS MOVE BY MS...

is that the music companies FORCED them to hide them so you wont record
stuff that is playing in real time on your computer!

Most people wont know how to enable this, and indeed the way is not readily
apparent..

this is GRUESOME..... SCARY... I use this functionality for many things..
Vista is trying to take it away from me because
basically of the fear that I will use it to steal music.... I don't care
about music.. I use this function for my own stuff
and I need it... yet MS passed this out relatively silently because not many
people are aware of it.

Vista should not have done this.. its clearly a DEGRADE!
 
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Tiberius

ok say it straight and clear

the REAL REASON BEHIND THIS MOVE BY MS IS::::>>>>

the music companies FORCED them to hide them so you wont record stuff that
is playing in real time on your computer!

Most people wont know how to enable this, and indeed the way is not readily
apparent..

this is GRUESOME..... SCARY... I use this functionality for many things..
Vista is trying to take it away from me because
basically of the fear that I will use it to steal music.... I dont care
about music.. I use this function for my own stuff
and I need it... yet MS passed this out relativly silently because not many
people are aware of it.

Vista should not have done this.. its clearly a DEGRADE!


PS. SHUT UP FRANK!
 
F

Frank

Tiberius said:
Ok Jane... but why, tell me why on earth did the vista designers do such
a hide and seek thing?
It's a brain tease...guess you lost.
Loser!
Frank
 
F

Frank

Tiberius said:
ok say it straight and clear

the REAL REASON BEHIND THIS MOVE BY MS IS::::>>>>

So bozo's like you will switch to lemiux.
MS does not need nor want you.
Tata.
(smirk)
Frank
 
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species8350

the problem is in vista... that is a pile of crap...
you cant imagine how many people are frustrated with this

see solution here:

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/01/15/how-to-enable-wave-out-record...

if you still dont have this then its your audio driver that is limited







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Thanks for the link.

I tried it, but no joy.

I suppose my audio driver must be limited.

It looks like I'll need to find another prog.

Best wishes

Sp
 
T

Tiberius

Tell me what the name of the audio driver is?

Is your machine a Dell perhaps and the driver is sigmatel

In that case the driver is CRIPPLED although your hardware can
do recording normally...

all this is to stop you from copying music... they are trying to back up
record companies...

DRM in a way, by stoping you from having the ability to record music that
you hear on your PC.

this is a long and sad story...
 
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species8350

Tell me what the name of the audio driver is?

Is your machine a Dell perhaps and the driver is sigmatel

In that case the driver is CRIPPLED although your hardware can
do recording normally...

all this is to stop you from copying music... they are trying to back up
record companies...

DRM in a way, by stoping you from having the ability to record music that
you hear on your PC.

this is a long and sad story...












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Quote:

'Is your machine a Dell perhaps and the driver is sigmatel '

Yes, dead right.

Would I have more luck with another programme, or am I crippled
irrespective of the programme. I suspect the latter, but I thought
that I would just ask.

Best wishes

PS. Blooming nuisance
 
T

Tiberius

you are crippled by the Driver Dell gives! So whatever program you use you
cannot get arround this problem.. some people solved this
by connecting cables so they could record their own sound

I really think you should send an email to DELL protesting that they are
crippling the hardware with an incomplete driver
 

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