Audacity and Widows Vista

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I have had the same problem. Most sound cards do not allow system mix
recording under Vista. This means that it is no longer possible to record
streamed audio as it plays. I have overcome the problem by using RMRecorder
and WMRecorder from Applian. These download streamed Real Media and streamed
Windows Media files from source. (They also work for streamed video).
Applian also make a program called Replay Converter which converts the
downloaded files into MP3s etc (and the video into AVIs etc). I'm afraid
these programs all cost money but they work well in Vista.

I have also found that Magix Webradio Deluxe 2 also works in Vista and
allows you to record web radio programs.

Aplplian's Replay Radio does not work in Vista.









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Thanks for the info.

I thought I wasn't going mad.

People seem to think that the function is there

I would have thought that a simple pluginn for Audacity would be
available to solve this problem.

best wishes
 
Right click on the Speaker icon in the Notification Area of the Taskbar, select
Recording Devices, right click on Recording Devices window, select both Show
Disabled Devices and Show Disconnected Devices and "Stereo Mix" should be there.
Or go to Control Panel > Sound and click on Recording Devices.

In Device Manager my driver version is 6.0.1.5397.

Why don't you install the latest drivers from Realtek (only one HD driver is
available)?

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I didn't install the Realteck drivers because I have SigmaTel drivers.
When getting Windows to check for updates, I am told that I have the
latest drivers.

PS. Not sure what would happen if I install realtek drivers. Is my
system capatible with these drivers - I don't know

Best wiashes
 
Do NOT install Realtek drivers. If you have a Sigma Tel audio adapter, you MUST
install Sigma Tel drivers which can only be obtained from your computer or
motherboard manufacturer.
 
Hi there,

Don't know if what I'm recording is relative to you, but I am using
Audacity to digitise my collection of vinyl records at the moment, and
it works fine in Vista for that. I'm using an ION USB record deck to
play the records.

I haven't tried any other recording using Audacity.

Bye for now.

Audacity appears not to be able to record under Windows Vista Home
Premium (32 bit).

Has anyone found a good free programme that will record under Vista

I'd like to record music from radio programmes over the Net.

Thanks
Bye for now,

George Dingwall

Invergordon, Scotland

http://www.georgedingwall.co.uk
 
I think this is because Audacity is using the "line in" recording facility
on the sound card which is still available. Streamed audio needs to be
recorded from "system mix" which is not available.
 
Microsoft has made extensive changes in the Vista/Windows server 2008
audio interface in an effort to improve performance and to impose strict
Digital Rights Management (DRM). Unfortunately, the changes have proven
to be a catastrophe for users and vendors of audio converting hardware.
Windows XP/Server 2003 audio drivers do not work with Vista and the
implementation of Vista compatible drivers can be a complicated and time
consuming process. Even worse, depending on a specific implementation, a
driver may or not support the features that are required by individual
application programs.
A case in point is the capability of recording streaming data in real
time. Most Vista audio application programs require a Play Back Device
interface that comes under a variety of names including "Stereo Mix",
"What U Hear" and "Digital Audio Interface".
The application program will not be able to capture the audio unless one
of this interfaces is present. Its existence apparently depends on the
specific sound card device and the implementation of its driver. A
considerable amount has been written on this subject in various Internet
forums and Web sites. The user is unfortunately of out luck if his sound
card/driver combination doesn't support the required interface.
 
An important sound card exception that I failed to mention is that some
have a loopback feature. This makes it possible to create multiple
playback channels that contain the same audio. You can use this feature
to circumvent specific Vista/Windows server 2008 audio restrictions.
This approach works fine with the LynxStudio L22 and RME HDSP 2496 Pro
Audio sound cards. I do not have a list of all the sound cards that have
this capability.
 
Hi there,

I've just had a go with recording streaming sound with Audacity and it
works OK.

You have to change a couple of settings in the preferences, and it may
be that the options available there are specific to your graphics
card, but it does work.

This is what I did.

Open the preferences dialog.
On the Audio I/O tab change the playback device to SPDIF Out (
Creative SB X-Fi). Then change the recording device to "What U Hear"
(Creative SB X-Fi)
Press OK

With the streaming audio now playing, press the record button. The
audio will now be recorded. When you have recorded enough, click the
stop button.

To play back the recorded audio in Audacity I then had to reset the
playback device to Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output.

After all that, you can use all of Audacity's editing option on the
recorded audio.

Hope this helps.

I think this is because Audacity is using the "line in" recording facility
on the sound card which is still available. Streamed audio needs to be
recorded from "system mix" which is not available.
Bye for now,

George Dingwall

Invergordon, Scotland

http://www.georgedingwall.co.uk
 
Audacity beta 1.3.3 works fine with Vista/Windows Server 2008.
To record streaming audio as from a radio station you need a combination
of sound converter hardware and an associated driver that supports a
"StereoMix" or equivalent output. "StereoMix" is the nomenclature of a
specific vendor and there are other names for this same functionality.
The basic problem is that you need to be able to pass the audio signal
to more than one output so that two or more programs can independently
share the same audio data.
If the "StereoMix" or equivalent output function is not available, you
need a sound converter that has loopback capability either in its
software mixer or by use of an external cable. Examples of sound
converters that have the loopback capability are the RME HDSP 9632 and
the LynxStudio L22. These are expensive, Pro Audio cards.
Another issue is that different radio stations use different
technologies for streaming audio. Depending on the availability of the
required CODECS, you may need to use more than one player in order to
handle all of the formats.
We have had very good success with a combination of the RME HDSP 9632
sound converter, its superb software mixer with facilitates loopback of
the audio data to multiple outputs, the VLC Media Player, and Audacity
beta 1.3.3. Samplitude SE also works well and is reasonable in cost.
All of the above hardware, drivers, and application programs work
properly with Windows Server 2008 and should also be fully compatible
with Vista.
 

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