ATI Drivers 3.7 and 3.8

[News]

Hi folks!

Like others, I have problems with Cat 3.8 and 3.7.
First I had 3.8 and had the mentioned problems: Game crashes (Gothic2,
german), PC crasches with messages like IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL or blank
black screen, spontaneous reboots.

So I tried to remove Cat 3.8 with the ATI uninstall routine, didn`t work.
So I removed the graphics card in the hardware manager and deinstalled the
driver and the additional components with the XP software routine.

After that, I installed 3.7, same problems again.

Now I´m using 3.6 but pc still crashes if I use the performance mode of my
motherboard. When XP reboots, it always say´s: fatal error blabla, please
report to Microsoft, XP is relaunched after fatal error, please report...)

System:
Intel p4 2.8 GHz, FSB 800
MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR, DOC: private, MAT: Turbo (this is the problematic
setting)
1024 MB Corsair DDR-RAM (2x 512 PC3200C2)
Intel chipset driver
Hercules RADEON 9500 Pro

If I use the default BIOS settings, it works, BUT DON`T TELL ME TO DO SO!
I spent a lot of money for the MSI board and I wan`t to use it`s abilities!

I`ll look on www.omegacorner.com as suggested in an earlier thread, but I
would appreciate any suggestions, maybe like a better way to deinstall
CAT-drivers.

I suppose, there could be still fragments of the 3.8 driver resident
somewhere, which cause the problems...

 

[Martijn van der Kooij]

MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR, DOC: private, MAT: Turbo (this is the problematic

setting)
If I use the default BIOS settings, it works, BUT DON`T TELL ME TO DO SO!

What is this setting doing?

I spent a lot of money for the MSI board and I wan`t to use it`s

abilities!

It is probably a setting because it can make system unstable... Otherwise
they could just put it on.

Martijn

 

[Skid]

Hi folks!

Like others, I have problems with Cat 3.8 and 3.7.
First I had 3.8 and had the mentioned problems: Game crashes (Gothic2,
german), PC crasches with messages like IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL or blank
black screen, spontaneous reboots.

So I tried to remove Cat 3.8 with the ATI uninstall routine, didn`t work.
So I removed the graphics card in the hardware manager and deinstalled the
driver and the additional components with the XP software routine.

After that, I installed 3.7, same problems again.

Now I´m using 3.6 but pc still crashes if I use the performance mode of my
motherboard. When XP reboots, it always say´s: fatal error blabla, please
report to Microsoft, XP is relaunched after fatal error, please report...)

System:
Intel p4 2.8 GHz, FSB 800
MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR, DOC: private, MAT: Turbo (this is the problematic
setting)
1024 MB Corsair DDR-RAM (2x 512 PC3200C2)
Intel chipset driver
Hercules RADEON 9500 Pro

If I use the default BIOS settings, it works, BUT DON`T TELL ME TO DO SO!
I spent a lot of money for the MSI board and I wan`t to use it`s abilities!

I`ll look on www.omegacorner.com as suggested in an earlier thread, but I
would appreciate any suggestions, maybe like a better way to deinstall
CAT-drivers.

I suppose, there could be still fragments of the 3.8 driver resident
somewhere, which cause the problems...

Sorry to tell you what you say you don't want to hear, but it's that MAT:
Turbo setting that's causing your problems. Those Windows errors are
happening because your memory is generating errors. That's why it works with
the default bios settings.

MAT: Turbo mode is a workaround that is intended to emulate Intel's PAT,
which is designed into the 875P chipset but not the 865PE you have. People
using Abit and Asus boards based on the 865PE often have the same
problems -- though you might be able to find a newer bios revision or a
particular combination of memory timings that will make it work.

The CATs do nothing to upset the balance of bios and memory settings. Every
symptom you report with all those driver revisions can be, and probably is,
the result of memory errors related to bios configuration issues.

Again it's not what you want to hear, but the benefits of that performance
mode setting are so small that they are unlikely to show up anywhere but in
a dedicated memory benchmark. If the choice is between stability and an
undetectable performance boost, most people would pick the first.

 

[News]

Sorry to tell you what you say you don't want to hear, but it's that MAT:
Turbo setting that's causing your problems. Those Windows errors are
happening because your memory is generating errors. That's why it works with
the default bios settings.

MAT: Turbo mode is a workaround that is intended to emulate Intel's PAT,
which is designed into the 875P chipset but not the 865PE you have. People
using Abit and Asus boards based on the 865PE often have the same
problems -- though you might be able to find a newer bios revision or a
particular combination of memory timings that will make it work.

The CATs do nothing to upset the balance of bios and memory settings. Every
symptom you report with all those driver revisions can be, and probably is,
the result of memory errors related to bios configuration issues.

Again it's not what you want to hear, but the benefits of that performance
mode setting are so small that they are unlikely to show up anywhere but in
a dedicated memory benchmark. If the choice is between stability and an
undetectable performance boost, most people would pick the first.

But it worked fine with the CAT3.1, which came with the graphics card,
that`s what I don`t understand. And higher release numbers are supposed to
improve the older ones, or not?

And the performance boost IS detectable, well not in minutes but in
seconds!
Programs really start faster, you can measure it even with your wristwatch.

Well thanks for the answer, now I´m nearer to solve the problem.