At&T Considers Linux - Beginning of the end for Microsoft

[Christopher Kurtis Koeber]

Yes you can... Just becuase linux is open source and *free* to download
certainly doesn't mean its free to maintain.

But you also have to look at the operating systems that are just as easy to
use as Windows, Support many Windows Apps, and are either lower cost or free
to download. One example is Xandros Linux.

Read up on VA Linux... There's a company that tried to go public with
it...
failed...

True, but take a look at RedHat.

Cost is still there, it just has a new name "maintenance agreement"

Maintenance is going to be there on every OS. But when was the last time you
heard a major security outbreak brought down 100,000's of Linux systems?

 

[Guest]

Everyone I know that has tried Linux has tried it on the FAT file system
since that's by far the most popular. I can't see the general comsumer using
the other file systems! Anyway, go ahead and switch!

 

[Christopher Kurtis Koeber]

Actually, reiserfs, ext 2, and 3 are the most popular. That is the default
filesystem that most automated Linux Installtion CD's use. Linux doesn't
even work reliably on FAT filesystems because that was optimized for
Microsoft's Windows 3.1/95/98. Besides, the FAT filesystem has overhead when
it comes to maintenance, performance, and has NEXT TO NOTHING when it comes
to security. The entire linux operating system is built on a security model.

Christopher

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

it comes to maintenance, performance, and has NEXT TO
NOTHING when it comes to security. The entire linux operating
system is built on a security model.

That's all very OT, and I am not sure if your post was a troll post...

 

[Aaron Smith]

What? Last I checked Linux used it's own fle system. There are distros
that can run on a FAT partition, but a real distribution installs in
Ext2Fs (Linux).

 

[Aaron Smith]

Maintenance is going to be there on every OS. But when was the last time you
heard a major security outbreak brought down 100,000's of Linux systems?

Wasn't there a couple of those? I don't remember completely, but I
thought there was an apache problem and some sort of Worm that targeted
linux that cause some issues.

Plus, you can't look at numbers like that as a whole. Put it into terms
of even numbers. How many linux systems are running publically on the
internet compared to how many windows systems are. I haven't done the
math, so don't flame me for saying it. But I would imagine the
numbers would even out.

 

[CJ Taylor]

But you also have to look at the operating systems that are just as easy to
use as Windows, Support many Windows Apps, and are either lower cost or free
to download. One example is Xandros Linux.


True, but take a look at RedHat.

Yeah.. Redhat... there is a quality company..

IPO Price... ~ 30
Surge Price... ~ 250
Current Price... ~13

Redhat barely survived because of the same issues revolving around VA Linux.
Cost a LOT of people a LOT of money...

You don't see Microsoft doing that...

Maintenance is going to be there on every OS. But when was the last time you
heard a major security outbreak brought down 100,000's of Linux systems?

As stated.. you would have to compare them to the number of windows users.
Why don't crackers prey on Linux users? Because most linux users are pretty
advanced guys that protect themselves well. However, most REGULAR users do
not have the mental capacity to user an OS like linux.

No one denies that linux isn't a great operating system. I don't deny
that.. But to most users, it's too diffucult to use and set up. Most
people would rather have an OS they don't have to think with... Why do you
think sitcoms are only 30 mins long? =|)

 

[Guest]

Here is the story from Linux.org:
http://www.linux.org/news/2004/10/05/0009.html

I just want to know what everyone thinks on the issue. What will all of us
VB developers do, there isn't much of an equivalent language in Linux?

Any comments?
Christopher

I just have to comment here, probably not appropriate but anyway...
I work at JPL. It seems to me that almost all computers there that are
affiliated with our spacecraft projects are Suns. Perhaps its because
historically Suns running Solaris (Unix) were considered stable and reliable,
expecially compared to DOS, Windows 3.1, 95, 98, etc. In my projects, I could
not afford a Sun, about $15K, I recall, so I went to the cheap PCs as a
platform. I just bought a few e-machines, $500 ea, and am planning on
writing some antenna control programs in VB.net. My coharts have now mostly
converted to Linux on PCs thinking this is almost equal to Solaris and runs
on a cheaper platform. When I mention I am trying to use VB.net, I get the
raised eyebrows along with comments bad-mouthing Microsoft.

Any thoughts here??? Should I start looking for another job??
Hamil

 

[Christopher Kurtis Koeber]

Sorry, but what does OT mean?

Christopher

That's all very OT, and I am not sure if your post was a troll post...

 

[Christopher Kurtis Koeber]

Dear Jay,
I spent some time trying out this project before I responded, and I must
say that it is pretty neat! It ran all of my .NET apps without any
motification! I guess .NET does have a future! Thanks!

If only the VB 6 apps worked in Linux way back when ...

Christopher

 

[CJ Taylor]

Off Topic.

Sorry, but what does OT mean?

Christopher