Are HD-DVD and Blu-ray already obsolete?

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OhioGuy

I've recently found out that a new video disk standard has emerged - the
Holographic Video Disk. Maxell started shipping 300 Gigabyte versions to TV
stations about a year ago, and they've caught on big. The stations use them
to archive literally days worth of TV programs onto a single disk.

It is only a matter of time before consumer versions start being released,
and ever larger sizes are developed.

Currently, the HVD holds 300 Gigabytes, but due to the capability of using
nearly all of the space inside of the disk for a holographic storage, the
eventual upper limit of the disks should be close to 4 Terabytes.

Here's how things stand currently:

Tech starting eventual

HD-DVD 15 GB 30 GB

Blu-ray 25 GB 50 GB

HVD 300 GB 3,900 GB (that's 3.9 Terabytes)


So, the current HVD's hold 12 times what the current Blu-ray disks hold, and
20 times what the current HD-DVD's hold. That's also the equivalent of about
63 DVD's - all on one disk. Currently, with the HVD, I could archive my
entire hard drive to a single disk.

Using mpeg-4, I can put about 22 hours of video on a single DVD. This means
I could put over 1,300 hours of video on a single HVD. It could play for
over 57 days - nearly two full months - 24 hours a day before it would run
out of fresh material to watch. (assuming the roughly 200 megabytes per hour
that I encode video into h.264)

Considering that these things have been shipping for a year now, that HD-DVD
and/or Blu-ray writing drives are still out of everyone's price range, do
you think that these things might just end up as the next real video
standard?

Sure, Blu-ray and HD-DVD want us to adopt their standard, but what if people
just start buying these as data archiving drives, and backing up all of
their video collections onto them? If pretty much every PC out there has one
of these, it then becomes a de facto standard. Then it might not be too long
until we started seeing stand alone players, and the studios, of course,
would want to start releasing films in the format. Or, if they didn't, we
could keep downloading and archiving them onto the disks ourselves.

The greatest thing about these (other than the obvious huge storage size) -
they have a protective sleeve, just like the old floppy disk! Yes, no more
scratched disks, smudged fingerprintes, or lost data from use.

Take a look here for a pic of an actual HVD

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/25646/2003064100820218784_rs.jpg
 
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Ed Cregger

OhioGuy said:
I've recently found out that a new video disk standard has emerged - the
Holographic Video Disk. Maxell started shipping 300 Gigabyte versions to
TV stations about a year ago, and they've caught on big. The stations use
them to archive literally days worth of TV programs onto a single disk.

It is only a matter of time before consumer versions start being released,
and ever larger sizes are developed.

Currently, the HVD holds 300 Gigabytes, but due to the capability of using
nearly all of the space inside of the disk for a holographic storage, the
eventual upper limit of the disks should be close to 4 Terabytes.

Here's how things stand currently:

Tech starting eventual

HD-DVD 15 GB 30 GB

Blu-ray 25 GB 50 GB

HVD 300 GB 3,900 GB (that's 3.9 Terabytes)


So, the current HVD's hold 12 times what the current Blu-ray disks hold,
and 20 times what the current HD-DVD's hold. That's also the equivalent of
about 63 DVD's - all on one disk. Currently, with the HVD, I could archive
my entire hard drive to a single disk.

Using mpeg-4, I can put about 22 hours of video on a single DVD. This
means I could put over 1,300 hours of video on a single HVD. It could play
for over 57 days - nearly two full months - 24 hours a day before it would
run out of fresh material to watch. (assuming the roughly 200 megabytes
per hour that I encode video into h.264)

Considering that these things have been shipping for a year now, that
HD-DVD and/or Blu-ray writing drives are still out of everyone's price
range, do you think that these things might just end up as the next real
video standard?

Sure, Blu-ray and HD-DVD want us to adopt their standard, but what if
people just start buying these as data archiving drives, and backing up
all of their video collections onto them? If pretty much every PC out
there has one of these, it then becomes a de facto standard. Then it might
not be too long until we started seeing stand alone players, and the
studios, of course, would want to start releasing films in the format. Or,
if they didn't, we could keep downloading and archiving them onto the
disks ourselves.

The greatest thing about these (other than the obvious huge storage
size) - they have a protective sleeve, just like the old floppy disk! Yes,
no more scratched disks, smudged fingerprintes, or lost data from use.

Take a look here for a pic of an actual HVD

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/25646/2003064100820218784_rs.jpg

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I heard a news clip the other day that stated that Blu-Ray is now history.


Ed Cregger
 
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DaveW

To give you something to amuse you, look up the PRICE of the Holographic
disk drives and of the disks themselves. I believe your enthusiasm for
early adoption of this new technology will dim...
 
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DevilsPGD

In message <[email protected]> "DaveW"
To give you something to amuse you, look up the PRICE of the Holographic
disk drives and of the disks themselves. I believe your enthusiasm for
early adoption of this new technology will dim...

You probably weren't an early adopter of CDR, DVD+R or -R either then,
right?
 
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Frank McCoy

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "DaveW said:
To give you something to amuse you, look up the PRICE of the Holographic
disk drives and of the disks themselves. I believe your enthusiasm for
early adoption of this new technology will dim...

Well ... Look at the price of the pocket-calculator and digital watch
when first introduced. Heck, look at the price of the first CD
recorders.

Right now you can buy pocket calculators in a blister-pack for under a
buck. Digital watches they've stopped giving away in cereal boxes
because they're TOO cheap. (Still get them in "Happy Meals" or
equivalent though.) Not *quite* cheap enough for Cracker Jack yet.
 

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