anyone ever seen this???

[Tom Gahagan]

Hello.......

Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help from any
outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.

Thanks....
Tom Gahagan

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo]

Did the icon just change or are you saying they actually changed into Word docs?

If it's just the icon, that's easy to fix with TweekUI...if the files really turned into .doc files that may be somethin' else.


| Hello.......
|
| Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help from any
| outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.
|
| Thanks....
| Tom Gahagan
|
|

 

[Steve Easton]

Never seen it here.
Sounds like a corrupt ShellIconCache file to me.

TweakUI will fix it. Run Rebuild Icons from the repair tab.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer

 

[Tom Gahagan]

A couple of things happened......

1) The pages would not load ... you would get a 404 error when you clicked
on the link to that page. The page still had the proper name with an .htm
extension... but somehow it was getting the 404 error......

2) Yes when editing (all of this is on the server) the icon was for word....

3) when you opened the page it would come up in word.... to be assumed I
guess.....

4) and there was all kinds of xml code above the head section.

I was able to save the stuff as a text file.... download it to my local
computer... open FrontPage... click the html tab and paste the code in....
after some clean up of the extraneous stuff ( not all that much really) I
had the pages back after uploading them back to the server.

I'm pretty sure the owner of the site ( he does his own maintenance) somehow
got turned around when he was saving some changes... BUT... I thought I
would ask around and see if this might be a known problem....

anyway... thanks for the reply

Tom Gahagan

"Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
wrote in message Did the icon just change or are you saying they actually changed into Word
docs?

If it's just the icon, that's easy to fix with TweekUI...if the files really
turned into .doc files that may be somethin' else.


| Hello.......
|
| Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help from
any
| outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.
|
| Thanks....
| Tom Gahagan
|
|

 

[Tom Gahagan]

Thanks Steve... see my response to Rob....
But if it happens again... I'll try the tewakui and see what happens.

Tom Gahagan

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo]

one more reason not to let owners maintain their own site
sounds like a mini-mess


| A couple of things happened......
|
| 1) The pages would not load ... you would get a 404 error when you clicked
| on the link to that page. The page still had the proper name with an ..htm
| extension... but somehow it was getting the 404 error......
|
| 2) Yes when editing (all of this is on the server) the icon was for word....
|
| 3) when you opened the page it would come up in word.... to be assumed I
| guess.....
|
| 4) and there was all kinds of xml code above the head section.
|
| I was able to save the stuff as a text file.... download it to my local
| computer... open FrontPage... click the html tab and paste the code in....
| after some clean up of the extraneous stuff ( not all that much really) I
| had the pages back after uploading them back to the server.
|
| I'm pretty sure the owner of the site ( he does his own maintenance) somehow
| got turned around when he was saving some changes... BUT... I thought I
| would ask around and see if this might be a known problem....
|
| anyway... thanks for the reply
|
| Tom Gahagan
|
| "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
| wrote in message | Did the icon just change or are you saying they actually changed into Word
| docs?
|
| If it's just the icon, that's easy to fix with TweekUI...if the files really
| turned into .doc files that may be somethin' else.
|
|
| | | Hello.......
| |
| | Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help from
| any
| | outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.
| |
| | Thanks....
| | Tom Gahagan
| |
| |
|
|

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

If he edits the site via IE, Edit With command, it might be set to use Word and not FP

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo]

AH !!...that would be nasty, eh?!


| If he edits the site via IE, Edit With command, it might be set to use Word and not FP
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
|
| FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| ==============================================
| To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
|
| >A couple of things happened......
| >
| > 1) The pages would not load ... you would get a 404 error when you clicked on the link to that
| > page. The page still had the proper name with an .htm extension... but somehow it was getting the
| > 404 error......
| >
| > 2) Yes when editing (all of this is on the server) the icon was for word....
| >
| > 3) when you opened the page it would come up in word.... to be assumed I guess.....
| >
| > 4) and there was all kinds of xml code above the head section.
| >
| > I was able to save the stuff as a text file.... download it to my local computer... open
| > FrontPage... click the html tab and paste the code in.... after some clean up of the extraneous
| > stuff ( not all that much really) I had the pages back after uploading them back to the server.
| >
| > I'm pretty sure the owner of the site ( he does his own maintenance) somehow got turned around
| > when he was saving some changes... BUT... I thought I would ask around and see if this might be a
| > known problem....
| >
| > anyway... thanks for the reply
| >
| > Tom Gahagan
| >
| > | > Did the icon just change or are you saying they actually changed into Word docs?
| >
| > If it's just the icon, that's easy to fix with TweekUI...if the files really turned into .doc
| > files that may be somethin' else.
| >
| >
| > | > | Hello.......
| > |
| > | Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help from any
| > | outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.
| > |
| > | Thanks....
| > | Tom Gahagan
| > |
| > |
| >
|
|

 

[Tom Gahagan]

YES!!!
BUT????

What do you do with those clients that are too cheap to buy a maintenance
plan?
I generally offer 1 hour of training with my initial services. I teach the
very basic, how to log on, how to upload, how to change text, etc. Most
clients get it pretty well but there are always a few that do not!!!

Anyway....... what to do?

Tom Gahagan

"Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
wrote in message one more reason not to let owners maintain their own site
sounds like a mini-mess


| A couple of things happened......
|
| 1) The pages would not load ... you would get a 404 error when you clicked
| on the link to that page. The page still had the proper name with an .htm
| extension... but somehow it was getting the 404 error......
|
| 2) Yes when editing (all of this is on the server) the icon was for
word....
|
| 3) when you opened the page it would come up in word.... to be assumed I
| guess.....
|
| 4) and there was all kinds of xml code above the head section.
|
| I was able to save the stuff as a text file.... download it to my local
| computer... open FrontPage... click the html tab and paste the code in....
| after some clean up of the extraneous stuff ( not all that much really) I
| had the pages back after uploading them back to the server.
|
| I'm pretty sure the owner of the site ( he does his own maintenance)
somehow
| got turned around when he was saving some changes... BUT... I thought I
| would ask around and see if this might be a known problem....
|
| anyway... thanks for the reply
|
| Tom Gahagan
|
| "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
| wrote in message | Did the icon just change or are you saying they actually changed into Word
| docs?
|
| If it's just the icon, that's easy to fix with TweekUI...if the files
really
| turned into .doc files that may be somethin' else.
|
|
| | | Hello.......
| |
| | Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help from
| any
| | outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.
| |
| | Thanks....
| | Tom Gahagan
| |
| |
|
|

 

[Tom Gahagan]

That is about the only thing I can think of that caused this.
How the edit from ie got changes over to Word I guess is the mystery. It was
set up properly and has been working fine for about 8 months or so.

Tom Gahagan

 

[Tom Gahagan]

Yes it would and was.... but not horribly so.
What the file ended up being was just a text file with all the html in
it.... WITH the addition of a lot of "STUFF" ( I'm not really sure what it
was???) . Once the "STUFF" was edited out it was an easy matter of pasting
the html into FrontPage. It took about 2 hours and yes I charged the client
for it!!!

Tom Gahagan

"Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
wrote in message AH !!...that would be nasty, eh?!


| If he edits the site via IE, Edit With command, it might be set to use
Word and not FP
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
|
| FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| ==============================================
| To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
|
| >A couple of things happened......
| >
| > 1) The pages would not load ... you would get a 404 error when you
clicked on the link to that
| > page. The page still had the proper name with an .htm extension... but
somehow it was getting the
| > 404 error......
| >
| > 2) Yes when editing (all of this is on the server) the icon was for
word....
| >
| > 3) when you opened the page it would come up in word.... to be assumed I
guess.....
| >
| > 4) and there was all kinds of xml code above the head section.
| >
| > I was able to save the stuff as a text file.... download it to my local
computer... open
| > FrontPage... click the html tab and paste the code in.... after some
clean up of the extraneous
| > stuff ( not all that much really) I had the pages back after uploading
them back to the server.
| >
| > I'm pretty sure the owner of the site ( he does his own maintenance)
somehow got turned around
| > when he was saving some changes... BUT... I thought I would ask around
and see if this might be a
| > known problem....
| >
| > anyway... thanks for the reply
| >
| > Tom Gahagan
| >
| > "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)"
| > | > Did the icon just change or are you saying they actually changed into
Word docs?
| >
| > If it's just the icon, that's easy to fix with TweekUI...if the files
really turned into .doc
| > files that may be somethin' else.
| >
| >
| > | > | Hello.......
| > |
| > | Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help
from any
| > | outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.
| > |
| > | Thanks....
| > | Tom Gahagan
| > |
| > |
| >
|
|

 

[Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage]

you could rig their site up with this:
http://contentseed.com/ I also like to use it because it speeds the final
bill/ content delivery situation. ;-)

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP-FrontPage

Make More Money with Less Work
Let Your Clients Control Their Content With Just A Browser!
http://contentseed.com/

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo]

.......Chris beat me to it. I use ContentSeed...works great...and it's real simple for the user - and they can't mess with anything else on the site.




| YES!!!
| BUT????
|
| What do you do with those clients that are too cheap to buy a maintenance
| plan?
| I generally offer 1 hour of training with my initial services. I teach the
| very basic, how to log on, how to upload, how to change text, etc. Most
| clients get it pretty well but there are always a few that do not!!!
|
| Anyway....... what to do?
|
| Tom Gahagan
|
| "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
| wrote in message | one more reason not to let owners maintain their own site
| sounds like a mini-mess
|
|
| | | A couple of things happened......
| |
| | 1) The pages would not load ... you would get a 404 error when you clicked
| | on the link to that page. The page still had the proper name with an .htm
| | extension... but somehow it was getting the 404 error......
| |
| | 2) Yes when editing (all of this is on the server) the icon was for
| word....
| |
| | 3) when you opened the page it would come up in word.... to be assumed I
| | guess.....
| |
| | 4) and there was all kinds of xml code above the head section.
| |
| | I was able to save the stuff as a text file.... download it to my local
| | computer... open FrontPage... click the html tab and paste the code in....
| | after some clean up of the extraneous stuff ( not all that much really) I
| | had the pages back after uploading them back to the server.
| |
| | I'm pretty sure the owner of the site ( he does his own maintenance)
| somehow
| | got turned around when he was saving some changes... BUT... I thought I
| | would ask around and see if this might be a known problem....
| |
| | anyway... thanks for the reply
| |
| | Tom Gahagan
| |
| | "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
| | wrote in message | | Did the icon just change or are you saying they actually changed into Word
| | docs?
| |
| | If it's just the icon, that's easy to fix with TweekUI...if the files
| really
| | turned into .doc files that may be somethin' else.
| |
| |
| | | | | Hello.......
| | |
| | | Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help from
| | any
| | | outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.
| | |
| | | Thanks....
| | | Tom Gahagan
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo]

Blue is blue...he may have just clicked on the wrong icon.


| That is about the only thing I can think of that caused this.
| How the edit from ie got changes over to Word I guess is the mystery. It was
| set up properly and has been working fine for about 8 months or so.
|
| Tom Gahagan
|
| | > If he edits the site via IE, Edit With command, it might be set to use
| > Word and not FP
| >
| > --
| > ==============================================
| > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| >
| > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > ==============================================
| > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >
| > | >>A couple of things happened......
| >>
| >> 1) The pages would not load ... you would get a 404 error when you
| >> clicked on the link to that page. The page still had the proper name with
| >> an .htm extension... but somehow it was getting the 404 error......
| >>
| >> 2) Yes when editing (all of this is on the server) the icon was for
| >> word....
| >>
| >> 3) when you opened the page it would come up in word.... to be assumed I
| >> guess.....
| >>
| >> 4) and there was all kinds of xml code above the head section.
| >>
| >> I was able to save the stuff as a text file.... download it to my local
| >> computer... open FrontPage... click the html tab and paste the code
| >> in.... after some clean up of the extraneous stuff ( not all that much
| >> really) I had the pages back after uploading them back to the server.
| >>
| >> I'm pretty sure the owner of the site ( he does his own maintenance)
| >> somehow got turned around when he was saving some changes... BUT... I
| >> thought I would ask around and see if this might be a known problem....
| >>
| >> anyway... thanks for the reply
| >>
| >> Tom Gahagan
| >>
| >> "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
| >> wrote in message | >> Did the icon just change or are you saying they actually changed into
| >> Word docs?
| >>
| >> If it's just the icon, that's easy to fix with TweekUI...if the files
| >> really turned into .doc files that may be somethin' else.
| >>
| >>
| >> | >> | Hello.......
| >> |
| >> | Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help from
| >> any
| >> | outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.
| >> |
| >> | Thanks....
| >> | Tom Gahagan
| >> |
| >> |
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo]

If he edited it with Word...if that's possible...Word adds a lot of extraneous flotsam and jetsam.


| Yes it would and was.... but not horribly so.
| What the file ended up being was just a text file with all the html in
| it.... WITH the addition of a lot of "STUFF" ( I'm not really sure what it
| was???) . Once the "STUFF" was edited out it was an easy matter of pasting
| the html into FrontPage. It took about 2 hours and yes I charged the client
| for it!!!
|
| Tom Gahagan
|
| "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
| wrote in message | AH !!...that would be nasty, eh?!
|
|
| | | If he edits the site via IE, Edit With command, it might be set to use
| Word and not FP
| |
| | --
| | ==============================================
| | Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| | WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| |
| | FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| | ==============================================
| | To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| |
| | | >A couple of things happened......
| | >
| | > 1) The pages would not load ... you would get a 404 error when you
| clicked on the link to that
| | > page. The page still had the proper name with an .htm extension... but
| somehow it was getting the
| | > 404 error......
| | >
| | > 2) Yes when editing (all of this is on the server) the icon was for
| word....
| | >
| | > 3) when you opened the page it would come up in word.... to be assumed I
| guess.....
| | >
| | > 4) and there was all kinds of xml code above the head section.
| | >
| | > I was able to save the stuff as a text file.... download it to my local
| computer... open
| | > FrontPage... click the html tab and paste the code in.... after some
| clean up of the extraneous
| | > stuff ( not all that much really) I had the pages back after uploading
| them back to the server.
| | >
| | > I'm pretty sure the owner of the site ( he does his own maintenance)
| somehow got turned around
| | > when he was saving some changes... BUT... I thought I would ask around
| and see if this might be a
| | > known problem....
| | >
| | > anyway... thanks for the reply
| | >
| | > Tom Gahagan
| | >
| | > "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)"
| | > | | > Did the icon just change or are you saying they actually changed into
| Word docs?
| | >
| | > If it's just the icon, that's easy to fix with TweekUI...if the files
| really turned into .doc
| | > files that may be somethin' else.
| | >
| | >
| | > | | > | Hello.......
| | > |
| | > | Anyone every had FrontPage files turn into Word files with no help
| from any
| | > | outside source? i.e.... it "just" happened.
| | > |
| | > | Thanks....
| | > | Tom Gahagan
| | > |
| | > |
| | >
| |
| |
|
|