Any fix coming Vista's slowness?

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PTravel

Shane Nokes said:
Right-click and select properties on the folder you wish to "Own"

Then select the security tab. From there you can take ownership by
following the instructions.

Also use the search function in vista with the word ownership and it
should give full details instructions :)

Is there any way to do this for XP Pro machines on the network? Copying
across the network takes forever, but I can ftp almost instantly.
 
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Misha

Wow that sucks. Just the opposite for me. I'm running vista on a 3 y.o.
NForce2 motherboard w/2G's of PC3200 and I have to say everything runs
faster than it did on XP for me. File copy, even copying files over to a
networked XP laptop
has been noticeably faster. Something must be out kilter there. Hope you
can straighten it out.
 
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Donald McDaniel

Misha said:
Wow that sucks. Just the opposite for me. I'm running vista on a 3 y.o.
NForce2 motherboard w/2G's of PC3200 and I have to say everything runs
faster than it did on XP for me. File copy, even copying files over to a
networked XP laptop
has been noticeably faster. Something must be out kilter there. Hope you
can straighten it out.

Here are the ONLY "fixes" for "Vista's slowness":
1) Purchase a newer machine.
2) Make sure this machine is "Vista compatible"
3) Make sure this machine has a new Core2 or Core2 Duo processor.
4) Make sure this machine has a minimum of 2GB DDR 667mhz memory.
5) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a 250GB 7200rpm SATA-II Hd, of
which at least HALF is used for Vista.
6) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a DirectX9c compatible video card
with a minimum of 256MB graphics memory ON THE CARD. And make DOUBLY-sure
that this video card does NOT use "shared memory" of ANY kind.
7) Install Vista CLEAN (on a freshly-formatted HD).
8) Make sure your BIOS is the LATEST one provided by your motherboard
manufacturer.
9) Make sure ALL drivers are VISTA driver-model drivers, NOT XP or earlier.
 
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BSchnur

3) Make sure this machine has a new Core2 or Core2 Duo processor.
Or a dual core AMD -- I've been happy with them as well
4) Make sure this machine has a minimum of 2GB DDR 667mhz memory.

Most users can get away with 1G DDR2 533 memory or even, with previous
generation (AMD 939 motherboards) 2G of DDR 400 running dual channel.
5) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a 250GB 7200rpm SATA-II Hd, of
which at least HALF is used for Vista.

You really don't need that much hard drive space though a single 120G
drive is about as small as I would go (perhaps 100G on a notebook I
suppose).

6) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a DirectX9c compatible video card
with a minimum of 256MB graphics memory ON THE CARD. And make DOUBLY-sure
that this video card does NOT use "shared memory" of ANY kind.

Fair point -- especially if you plan on any gaming.
 
J

Jon

Donald McDaniel said:
Here are the ONLY "fixes" for "Vista's slowness":
1) Purchase a newer machine.
2) Make sure this machine is "Vista compatible"
3) Make sure this machine has a new Core2 or Core2 Duo processor.
4) Make sure this machine has a minimum of 2GB DDR 667mhz memory.
5) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a 250GB 7200rpm SATA-II Hd, of
which at least HALF is used for Vista.
6) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a DirectX9c compatible video
card with a minimum of 256MB graphics memory ON THE CARD. And make
DOUBLY-sure that this video card does NOT use "shared memory" of ANY kind.
7) Install Vista CLEAN (on a freshly-formatted HD).
8) Make sure your BIOS is the LATEST one provided by your motherboard
manufacturer.
9) Make sure ALL drivers are VISTA driver-model drivers, NOT XP or
earlier.


...or roughly translated....

'If in doubt, throw the hardware out"
 
P

PTravel

Donald McDaniel said:
Here are the ONLY "fixes" for "Vista's slowness":
1) Purchase a newer machine.
2) Make sure this machine is "Vista compatible"
3) Make sure this machine has a new Core2 or Core2 Duo processor.
4) Make sure this machine has a minimum of 2GB DDR 667mhz memory.
5) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a 250GB 7200rpm SATA-II Hd, of
which at least HALF is used for Vista.
6) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a DirectX9c compatible video
card with a minimum of 256MB graphics memory ON THE CARD. And make
DOUBLY-sure that this video card does NOT use "shared memory" of ANY kind.
7) Install Vista CLEAN (on a freshly-formatted HD).
8) Make sure your BIOS is the LATEST one provided by your motherboard
manufacturer.
9) Make sure ALL drivers are VISTA driver-model drivers, NOT XP or
earlier.

Yes, yes, yes . . you've described my machine.

And it's still gawd-awful slow doing file copies or even accessing files
across the network. This is a Vista bug, not a problem with incompatible or
underpowered hardware.
 
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Eric

1) Machine purchased in December of 2006
2) Thats what it says
3) Check
4) Check
5) 500 GB 7200 rpm, Sata II ALL Vista
6) Check except mine has 512MB of memory NONE shared
7) Check
8) Check
9) All drivers claim to be Vista ready.

ITS STILL SLOW.
 
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Vronans

Donald said:
Here are the ONLY "fixes" for "Vista's slowness":
1) Purchase a newer machine.

Ok but newer machine does not mean you have to run Vista on it. Why get
a newer, faster machine just to get Vista to run fine, when it seems to
infinately more logical to get XP, get any of the thousands of
compatible hardwares (ie new graphics card, multiple core CPU setup,
etc) and enjoy a much faster OS then you could ever get with Vista ?!

2) Make sure this machine is "Vista compatible"

"Vista compatible" ??? Why does it feel like things have taken a big
step backwards? In this day and age, this SHOULD NOT be an issue... so
wtf?

3) Make sure this machine has a new Core2 or Core2 Duo processor.

Just to run adequately and not so sluggly... tell me again why we should
get new PC's, just to get back where we were before, in terms of how
fast the comp feels. Why not just use XP on new hardware. The dual and
quad cores have all been tested on XP so "compatibity" isn't an issue
like it is with Vista, so it really makes no sense to just drop XP for
Vista.

4) Make sure this machine has a minimum of 2GB DDR 667mhz memory.

Which would make XP fly while bringing Vista up to par with the current
P4 (~2-3gz) or equivilent machine most have already.

5) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a 250GB 7200rpm SATA-II
Hd, of which at least HALF is used for Vista.

Vista really needs 125 GB to run? I doubt it as I'm pretty sure it needs
at least 10gb for the OS, which is rather hefty if you ask me. What
exactly in Vista needs all that space?

6) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a DirectX9c compatible
video card with a minimum of 256MB graphics memory ON THE CARD.
And make DOUBLY-sure that this video card does NOT use "shared memory"
of
ANY kind.

Which I think would serve one better on a XP setup instead, unless you
like having a good chunk used up by the 3D driven Aero Glass
desktop/skin. It's nice to look at, don't get me wrong, but if you're
looking to have a new FAST machine then Vista IMHO is just looking the
wrong way.

7) Install Vista CLEAN (on a freshly-formatted HD).

Or XP Pro for that matter.

8) Make sure your BIOS is the LATEST one provided by your motherboard
manufacturer.

That is always good advise. Too bad so many makes are lagging behind on
Vista drivers.

9) Make sure ALL drivers are VISTA driver-model drivers, NOT XP or
earlier.

More unnecessary breakages in Vista it looks like... if the OS was
written properly drivers would not be an issue right now. Vista for all
intents and purposes uses what amounts to an updated NT (2000 -> XP ->
Vista) core... yes there are some of you who'll say... "no it's a brand
new rewritten core.. blah blah"... no, the core wasn't completely
rewritten, just modified a bit.

But in the end it's the next iteration of the NT core. They just, for
once, created a rather pretty front end to it all. In fact I'd wager the
bulk of the major rewrites were the changed dialogs and the new Areo
theme and such.

Just look around the whole system and you'll notice a whole slew
familiar boxes and compents and the registry itself will appear largely
familiar to anyone who has regualrly spent time there in XP amd prevous
Windows systems.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

I conclude in saying that Vista, while looking pretty and even may
contain some nice ideas and all, is just too heavy on ssytem resources,
making it look IMHO another excuse to get people to buy new hardware
just to alieviate the sluggishness, rather than actually slimming
windows down, and allowing for a mush faster expience on the same
hardware, of which you can only take FULL advantage of in the fast lane
with XP or 2003 (or even 2000 to an extent.)

Again, Vista, while looking nice and even futuristic, in many ways feels
like a step back.
 
C

cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:04:32 -0800, "Donald McDaniel"
Here are the ONLY "fixes" for "Vista's slowness":
1) Purchase a newer machine.
2) Make sure this machine is "Vista compatible"
3) Make sure this machine has a new Core2 or Core2 Duo processor.

Nah... getting fine mileage with 3.0GHz Celeron and up.
4) Make sure this machine has a minimum of 2GB DDR 667mhz memory.

Nah... 1G for now's OK, add 2nd G later
5) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a 250GB 7200rpm SATA-II Hd, of

Yep, I don't see any reason to stop short of 320G right now
which at least HALF is used for Vista.

Nah, rather keep Vista in a 32G bubble, and be "active" about where
things go... get the data, music, pictures and videos OFF C: onto
volumes that follow closely after the C:.

Then again, the more RAM you have, the more space Vista will want to
spend (or waste, by this stage) on pagefile. Manage that, too.
6) Make sure this machine has a minimum of a DirectX9c compatible video card
with a minimum of 256MB graphics memory ON THE CARD. And make DOUBLY-sure
that this video card does NOT use "shared memory" of ANY kind.

7) Install Vista CLEAN (on a freshly-formatted HD).
Yep.

8) Make sure your BIOS is the LATEST one provided by your motherboard
manufacturer.

9) Make sure ALL drivers are VISTA driver-model drivers, NOT XP or earlier.
Agreed.



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