Any fix coming Vista's slowness?

E

Eric

I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a clean
install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my components (i've
seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are just painfully slow.
File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the size/time
calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory of about 200 mb
to another computer and Vista spent literally hours doing the calculation, I
finally cancelled it before it finished doing the calculation. Even copying
small amounts of data is extremly slow.
I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it, no
log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about 15
seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message. I even
tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still took around 15
seconds to come back up. In XP, this was instantaneous on this box.
Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP, not
considerably slower but noticably slower.
I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next patch or
SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come soon, I think
I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at least six
months to a year for a couple more revisions.
 
L

Linus Askerlund

Try turning off the indexing. From what I've understand Vistas indexing
likes to hog the harddrive for some time after installation. Although I
doubt this is the true cause for your problem. I would also take a look at
the motherboard and its buss speeds, still only a thought.
 
S

Saran

As many have pointed out, the best solution is to insert your XP CD,
reboot (and if needed, set your BIOS to allow booting to CD before HD in
the boot order) and follow the install instructions for a clean install.
Then everything will work as you want and you'll have a very fast
computer, rather than one that feels like a automobile dragging a giant
boat anchor.

Enjoy :)
 
J

Joe Medford

I have it the opposite, Vista runn far faster then XP even opening
programs... I would want it to check before copying, I don't want to have
to keep deleting files just because a file or folder could not be deleted.
 
J

Joe Medford

I have it the opposite, Vista runn far faster then XP even opening
programs... I would want it to check before copying, I don't want to have
to keep deleting files just because a file or folder could not be deleted.

Intel 1.66 Ghz Dual Core Duo, 2G of ram, Dual Hard Drives, Vista Ultimate.
 
C

Chris

Linus said:
Try turning off the indexing. From what I've understand Vistas indexing
likes to hog the harddrive for some time after installation. Although I
doubt this is the true cause for your problem. I would also take a look
at the motherboard and its buss speeds, still only a thought.

What he is describing is unlikely due to indexing. Indexing should not
take more than a few hours and really does not slow things up like he is
saying. To have to take several hours doing a calculation for a copy is
not an indexing problem. That is some other serious problem.

It might be that going back to XP is the solution. But Vista works well
on my system, at least as fast as XP in most cases, and I enjoy it
better than XP. I have not timed file copying, either over the LAN or
locally, but I don't notice any major problem. I don't think the issue
is speed, per se, but making it compatible with more hardware.
 
D

Dale

My Vista PC is similarly configured to yours. I don't have any performance
issues on it. I suggest looking for upgraded drivers for just about
everything on your PC.


Dale
 
J

Jon

Eric said:
I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a clean
install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my components (i've
seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are just painfully slow.
File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the size/time
calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory of about 200
mb to another computer and Vista spent literally hours doing the
calculation, I finally cancelled it before it finished doing the
calculation. Even copying small amounts of data is extremly slow.
I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it, no
log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about 15
seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message. I
even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still took
around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was instantaneous on this
box.
Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP, not
considerably slower but noticably slower.
I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next patch
or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come soon, I
think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at least
six months to a year for a couple more revisions.


I've posted in a few suggestions in a 'Speeding up Vista' thread a few
threads up, which may help.
 
A

Alias

Eric said:
I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a clean
install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my components
(i've seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are just painfully
slow.
File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the size/time
calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory of about 200
mb to another computer and Vista spent literally hours doing the
calculation, I finally cancelled it before it finished doing the
calculation. Even copying small amounts of data is extremly slow.
I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it,
no log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about
15 seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message.
I even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still took
around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was instantaneous on
this box.
Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP, not
considerably slower but noticably slower.
I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next patch
or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come soon, I
think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at
least six months to a year for a couple more revisions.

Put the Vista DVD on the shelf. Wipe the disk and install XP. Wait.
Drivers and such are on the way.

Alias
 
K

Kurt Herman

I said it before, and I'll say it again. If you would just take "ownership"
of ALL of the files on ALL of your hardrives, they will copy/move/delete
just as fast if not FASTER then on XP. If you don't take ownership, Vistas
got to check each and every file your trying to work with to see if you have
the proper permissions to do so. I was a little bugged by the slow copy/move
delete, but was pleasantly surprised how zippy it was once I took ownership.
Files that are on your computer from when you ran XP have a different
"owner".

Kurt
 
C

Carl G

Ya , but what do you do if you have a fresh install and no upgrade?
No old XP files to worry about.
I have a clean install and a fast enough pc , but Vista is still slower on
MY pc then XP was.
Takes almost double the time to copy files as XP did.
Thanks
 
K

Kurt Herman

I'm not talking about the system files, I'm talking about your
data/photos/documents, any thing you have on other partitions or drives.
They ALL need to have the ownership changes.

Kurt
 
A

Alias

Kurt said:
I said it before, and I'll say it again. If you would just take
"ownership" of ALL of the files on ALL of your hardrives, they will
copy/move/delete just as fast if not FASTER then on XP. If you don't
take ownership, Vistas got to check each and every file your trying to
work with to see if you have the proper permissions to do so. I was a
little bugged by the slow copy/move delete, but was pleasantly surprised
how zippy it was once I took ownership. Files that are on your computer
from when you ran XP have a different "owner".

Kurt

And how does one take ownership of the files?

Alias
 
S

Shane Nokes

Right-click and select properties on the folder you wish to "Own"

Then select the security tab. From there you can take ownership by
following the instructions.

Also use the search function in vista with the word ownership and it should
give full details instructions :)
 
J

Jon

Kurt Herman said:
I said it before, and I'll say it again. If you would just take "ownership"
of ALL of the files on ALL of your hardrives, they will copy/move/delete
just as fast if not FASTER then on XP. If you don't take ownership, Vistas
got to check each and every file your trying to work with to see if you
have the proper permissions to do so. I was a little bugged by the slow
copy/move delete, but was pleasantly surprised how zippy it was once I took
ownership. Files that are on your computer from when you ran XP have a
different "owner".

Kurt

Interesting suggestion. .You'd may also have to give yourself 'full control'
access at the same time.
 
K

Kurt Herman

Interesting suggestion. .You'd may also have to give yourself 'full
control' access at the same time.

Yes, that is what I did. All my files are "mine" again. :)

Kurt
 
A

Alias

Shane said:
Right-click and select properties on the folder you wish to "Own"

Then select the security tab. From there you can take ownership by
following the instructions.

Do you have to do it one file/folder at a time or can you select a bunch
of files/folders and take ownership of all of them?
Also use the search function in vista with the word ownership and it
should give full details instructions :)

That would only work if I had Vista installed on some computer. I don't.
I am waiting until Vista is ready for prime time and I have the budget
to buy new hardware.

Alias
 
C

Carl G

Does that work for all files or just the old XP files?
I don't have any XP files as I did a clean install from XPPRO to Vista home
premium.
Thanks
 

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