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Don Burnette

It amazes me that a someone as yourself would be even approached by MS to
participate in the MVP program.

You jump all over someone who comes here and asks a question, which is WHAT
these forums are intended for. By your logic, you would have everyone do so
through help rather than even coming to these forums. There would be no need
for these forums.
If someone has found their way here, then they have every right to ask for
help, and do not deserve responses such as yours. Pathetic.
 
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Don Burnette

The only abuse I see here is done by you.
You sound like a sad, pathetic, bitter, individual.


< PLONK >
 
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Don Burnette

Vanguardx said:
Perhaps you have a history with Andy that the rest of us are unaware.
A Google search by his moniker doesn't show any posts since about
1995.
When reading the chart regarding what is abusive, please don't read it
from a mirror which would reverse the chart. I saw nothing abusive in
the OP's post, only in your posts. It reminded me of trying to talk
with Alan Connor, a known kook (well, known to me after trying to
communicate with him; see
http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml), who becomes
severely abusive if you ask him about his product or question his
viewpoint. I don't see cause why the OP couldn't post their
preference to eliminate something in a feature of Windows (which I
don't use, by the way). After all, the OP did post in the *.newusers
group.
Are you saying that Microsoft thrusts the MVP award upon anyone simply
based on their participation in the microsoft.* newsgroups without the
consent of the awardee? If you want no association with the Microsoft
MVP program then why do you infer your participation or membership,
past or present, by the use of an mvps.org e-mail address? Have you
informed mvps.org of your position regarding the MVP program so they
can delete your e-mail account with them and remove from their site
the link to your site?



LOL, I would say the truth is being stretched a bit much here by Mr.
Candy...

Obviously, a very bitter man who likes to prey on new folks coming here for
help. Best thing to do is killfile folks like him. Thankfully, they are few
and far between.
It's just a shame that some folks who find their way to these forums for the
first time, have to experience the likes of him... Not a good representation
at all for what these newsgroups are intended...
 
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Vanguardx

David Candy said:
No I just don't like abusive people.

And

<quote>
Does the EN prevent tasks from being performed?
</quote>

You really should get a sense of proportion between working with a
computer (debugging) and being a complete flip (two letters on a
welcome screen). This isn't microsoft technical support.

Since the OP has not posted here before (the 1995 posts found by Google
Groups look to be someone else), it is possible the user was directed to
the newsgroup and thought that Microsoft's tech support actually visits
here. That would not be a unique misconception of just this one poster.
However, there is also no evidence by the OP that they were unaware that
this a peer community of volunteers to assist other users. Since the OP
posted using a non-Microsoft news server and *not* through the
webnews-for-dummies CDO interface (looks like he posted using NTL
World's own news servers) then it is even more likely that the OP knew
that Microsoft doesn't provide free tech support here.

If users want to post a question regarding how to change configuration
or preferences within Windows (and which aren't critical "problems")
then in what newsgroup would you suggest they post? Seems like
*.newusers was an appropriate newsgroup, to me, as were the other three
groups (I'm assuming NTL World's news server's
microsoft.public.windowsxp.bas is aliased to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics).

Other than severely exaggerating the irritation of having to read a post
that contained misspelling and punctuation errors, just what did you
find abusive by the post? No, just don't simply say it was abusive.
WHY was it abusive? I'm having a hard time wrapping myself around your
viewpoint. A user that is too lazy to bother to use the included help
does not itself engender abusiveness to a post. That a stupid post (in
the opinion of a particular reader) wastes bandwidth and disk space is
also not abusive. There are a hell of a lot more stupid questions
posted than this one, like those too lazy to search before repeatedly
asking why OE has blocked attachments. Have you gone attacking all
those lazy users, too? Rather than being lazy, it is also possible that
the user is so new a user that they don't even realize what help is
already included with a product.
 
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David Candy

And what exactly are they intended for. I've been here for almost 9 years (Since February 1996). I've been using MS online services for 10 years (April/May/June 1994), and online services since January 1990.

This is a peer to peer support group. It IS NOT free technical support. For questions that are abusive they should pay microsoft. Arguably the flip is not a peer. He only has a really stupid question (don't like it then don't look at it). That is abusive. I find it wierd that newcomers here like yourself support the abuse of this group.
 
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David Candy

Because it's NOT A PROBLEM. As I said only people with OCD would care. It's not even customisation. It's two letters.

The flip is the sort of person to go to a hospital with a broken finger just after a bus has a headon.

So how much time do you spend watching the Welcome Screen. It's just a continuing example of scum coming here with their little selfish thieving ways and trying to waste bandwidth with useless and pointless questions.

Flips aren't welcomed here.
 
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Guest

That's funny ... because I thought that everyone was welcome here.
Andy .... if you do come back to read this thread .... please don't judge
this place by one person, and don't feel intimidated to ask for help when you
need it. There are many people here who will offer a helping hand... From
what I've read of this thread, it seems as though the majority feels the same
way. Basically it comes down to "treating people the way you'd like to be
treated". Common courtesy goes a long way.
 
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David Candy

Criminals like you and Thief aren't.
Common courtesy goes a long way.
This is something scum like you and Thief should ponder.

Answer this.

On my car there are letters stamped on the manifold. How do I remove them.
 
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Don Burnette

Not a problem for who - you???

It obviously meant something to the original poster, and who are you, to say
he is scum and selfish? You don't even know the guy for crying out loud!.
And, who the heck are you to say who is welcome and who is not?
Personally, you way more strike me as the type that should not be welcome
than the original poster.

Now that is truly pathetic.


Don Burnette
 
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Don Burnette

I am far from a newcommer, I have been following and learning from the
wondeful folks that help people here for some time.

I do not post that much, but I do occasionally if I have some time and if I
think I might can help someone. I wish I had more time to learn and do it,
as I truly enjoy " giving back to the community".

Just how do you differentiate " peer to peer support", from " free technical
support"?
Seems to be a mighty gray area there. By that logic, you could say anyone
coming here for help, is searching for free tech support.

As I mentioned before, it appears to me, you are the one abusing, at least
in this instance.
 
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bdog

Criminals like you and Thief aren't.
This is something scum like you and Thief should ponder.

Answer this.

On my car there are letters stamped on the manifold. How do I remove
them.

Get the engine very hot and suck them off with your lips.
 
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Guest

gpalmer711 said:
David,
While my advice may have been incorrect, at least I am not insulting
people for the sake of it. As you have a mvps.org email address i'm assuming
you are or have been an MS MVP, if that it the case I am very surprised as
this is not the sort of behaviour I would expect from other MVP's.

--
Greg Palmer
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.palmersoft.co.uk
It is totally inappropriate. Where is the problem? There is no problem.

Plus you have to do a bit more than turn off the language bar, it is
Advanced Text Services (of which the language bar is the UI for).

But I suppose if an idiot wants to give misleading advice to another idiot.
Least I gave accurate if useless advice.

<quote>
It's related to the language toolbar.
</quote>

People with obsessive compulsive disorder shouldn't post here with drivel.
He needs to speak to his doctor about his EN not here.

His MVP status has NOT been renewed this year!
I can't imagine why?
 
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Guest

David Candy said:
I was awarded the MVP from the Word Product Development Group in 1997. I then changed to a friends name and posted till I (him) was awarded a Windows MVP. As MS cancelled the program then I posted for over two years in a false name before I got the MVP in that name.

As the MVP award is changed to being only a marketing tool, now I sabotage all attempts to award it to me as it is now worthless.

This is the first year in a while MS hasn't spammed me.

But still you are saying a complete abusive flip has the right to waste other's time here. This really amazes me that abusive, thieving, scum have some right to be that way.

Don't you think(when sober) that this is a little harsh for just a simple ?
abusive, thieving, scum have some right to be that way.
 
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Guest

LOL
Are you saying that Microsoft thrusts the MVP award upon anyone simply
based on their participation in the microsoft.* newsgroups without the
consent of the awardee? If you want no association with the Microsoft
MVP program then why do you infer your participation or membership, past
or present, by the use of an mvps.org e-mail address? Have you informed
mvps.org of your position regarding the MVP program so they can delete
your e-mail account with them and remove from their site the link to
your site?
 
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Guest

:

LOL, I would say the truth is being stretched a bit much here by Mr.
Candy...

Obviously, a very bitter man who likes to prey on new folks coming here for
help. Best thing to do is killfile folks like him. Thankfully, they are few
and far between.
It's just a shame that some folks who find their way to these forums for the
first time, have to experience the likes of him... Not a good representation
at all for what these newsgroups are intended...

I can't agree more Don,and well said!
 
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jeffrey

David,

Each person has a different definition of problem. For some people, they do
not know their way around the OS very well. There is an old saying, only
stupid question is a question not asked. This forum is to help people
either to solve problems or learn how to use their computers so they can
learn to solve their own problems. For you the EN is not a problem, but for
the OP, it is a problem to them. I have seen people come in here asking
how to change settings on their computer, that is not a problem, but its
something they need help with. Isn`t that what these forums are for? to
help people?

Jeff

Well the flip now has something to try to remove the EN.
 

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