Another Limited or No Connectivity question

[Guest]

I have seen NUMEROUS responses to this question - tried many of them - i.e.
hotfix kb884020, winsockxp fix, fixreg, disenable/enable Local Area
Connection, etc. Nothing works for me.

My system: Windows XP on the ‘host’ machine – Windows 2000 on the ‘client’
machine.

Cable modem plugged into my host motherboard (Asus with built-in NIC). Host
computer has a Macronix MX98715-Based Ethernet Adapter. The Macronix NIC is
plugged into a SOHOware hub.

The client computer also has a Macronix NIC and is also plugged into the
SOHO hub. Client running Win2K.

With TCP/IP set to obtain IP and DNS addresses automatically, I get the
‘Limited or No Connectivity’ message on the host. Client ipconfig shows IP
Address as 169.254.241.138 – Submask is 255.255.0.0. Host ipconfig shows
Macronix IP Address of 169.254.248.165 – Submask of 255.255.0.0. I have file
and print share capabilities from the client but no internet access.

Setting static IP Addresses as: Host – 192.168.0.1 – submask of
255.255.255.0 and client IP Address – 192.168.0.2 – submask of 255.255.255.0
gets rid of the ‘Limited or No Connectivity’ message, I still have print/file
share capabilities, but still NO INTERNET ACCESS. All I get is a message
stating ‘No on-line connection to the internet currently exists’ in both
scenarios.

If I connect the client to the cable modem and set to obtain IP/DNS
addresses automatically, I get internet access.

The question is, how can I share internet access and have my LAN for print
sharing?

My thanks to all who respond,

Donald

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I have seen NUMEROUS responses to this question - tried many of them - i.e.
hotfix kb884020, winsockxp fix, fixreg, disenable/enable Local Area
Connection, etc. Nothing works for me.

My system: Windows XP on the ‘host’ machine – Windows 2000 on the ‘client’
machine.

Cable modem plugged into my host motherboard (Asus with built-in NIC). Host
computer has a Macronix MX98715-Based Ethernet Adapter. The Macronix NIC is
plugged into a SOHOware hub.

The client computer also has a Macronix NIC and is also plugged into the
SOHO hub. Client running Win2K.

With TCP/IP set to obtain IP and DNS addresses automatically, I get the
‘Limited or No Connectivity’ message on the host. Client ipconfig shows IP
Address as 169.254.241.138 – Submask is 255.255.0.0. Host ipconfig shows
Macronix IP Address of 169.254.248.165 – Submask of 255.255.0.0. I have file
and print share capabilities from the client but no internet access.

Setting static IP Addresses as: Host – 192.168.0.1 – submask of
255.255.255.0 and client IP Address – 192.168.0.2 – submask of 255.255.255.0
gets rid of the ‘Limited or No Connectivity’ message, I still have print/file
share capabilities, but still NO INTERNET ACCESS. All I get is a message
stating ‘No on-line connection to the internet currently exists’ in both
scenarios.

If I connect the client to the cable modem and set to obtain IP/DNS
addresses automatically, I get internet access.

The question is, how can I share internet access and have my LAN for print
sharing?

My thanks to all who respond,

Donald

Enable Internet Connection Sharing on the host computer:

1. Right-click the Internet Connection.
2. Click Properties.
3. Click Advanced.
4. Put a check mark in the box "Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection".
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[Guest]

Steve,

Thanks for the prompt response. Here is where I am at:

I thought I had already enabled Internet Connection Sharing. So, I repeated
the procedure as follows:

Opened Network Connections, went to ‘Set up a home or small office network’
which gave me the Network Setup Wizard. At ‘Select a connection method, I
selected ‘This computer connects directly to the Internet. The other
computers on my network connect to the Internet through this computer’. For
‘Select your Internet Connection’, I selected the connection that my host
computer uses to connect to the cable modem. The Wizard gave me the correct
Computer Description, Computer Name, and Workgroup name. I then selected
‘Turn on file and printer sharing’ and it gave the following information
under ‘Settings’:
============================================================
Internet connection settings

Internet connection Local Area Connection
Internet connection sharing enabled
Windows Firewall enabled

Network settings

Computer description BossComputer
Computer name DONSCOMPUTER
Workgroup name MSHOME

File and printer sharing is turned on. The Shared Documents folder and any
files or printers you have shared are now available for others to use.

Connection to your network: Local Area Connection 2

============================================================

I then selected ‘Just finish the wizard. I don’t need to run the wizard on
the other computer’.

The settings were applied successfully. With or without Windows Firewall on
my Local Area Connection 2, I still get the response: ‘No on-line connection
to the internet currently exists’.

Is my problem with the Client computer that is running Win2k? If so, what do
I need to do to it.

Again, thanks

Don

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Steve,

Thanks for the prompt response. Here is where I am at:

I thought I had already enabled Internet Connection Sharing. So, I repeated
the procedure as follows:

Opened Network Connections, went to ‘Set up a home or small office network’
which gave me the Network Setup Wizard. At ‘Select a connection method, I
selected ‘This computer connects directly to the Internet. The other
computers on my network connect to the Internet through this computer’. For
‘Select your Internet Connection’, I selected the connection that my host
computer uses to connect to the cable modem. The Wizard gave me the correct
Computer Description, Computer Name, and Workgroup name. I then selected
‘Turn on file and printer sharing’ and it gave the following information
under ‘Settings’:
============================================================
Internet connection settings

Internet connection Local Area Connection
Internet connection sharing enabled
Windows Firewall enabled

Network settings

Computer description BossComputer
Computer name DONSCOMPUTER
Workgroup name MSHOME

File and printer sharing is turned on. The Shared Documents folder and any
files or printers you have shared are now available for others to use.

Connection to your network: Local Area Connection 2

============================================================

I then selected ‘Just finish the wizard. I don’t need to run the wizard on
the other computer’.

The settings were applied successfully. With or without Windows Firewall on
my Local Area Connection 2, I still get the response: ‘No on-line connection
to the internet currently exists’.

Is my problem with the Client computer that is running Win2k? If so, what do
I need to do to it.

Again, thanks

Don

You're welcome, Don. I think the problem is on the host, not the
client. The steps that you followed should have enabled Internet
Connection Sharing on the host, provided that:

1. The cable modem connects to Local Area Connection.
2. The hub connects to Local Area Connection 2.

Enabling ICS should automatically assign these IP addresses:

1. Static 192.168.0.1 to Local Area Connection 2.
2. Dynamic 192.168.0.x (1<x<255) to the client.

Since your first message said that both computers had 169.254.x.x
addresses, I assumed that ICS wasn't enabled.

You've already run the Network Setup Wizard without success, so I
recommend manually disabling and then enabling ICS on the host:

1. Right-click the Internet Connection.
2. Click Properties.
3. Click Advanced.
4. Un-check the box "Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection".
5. Click OK.

6. Right-click the Internet Connection.
7. Click Properties.
8. Click Advanced.
9. Put a check mark in the box "Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection".
10. Click OK.

Reboot the client, then check the IP addresses on both computers. If
they're not right, look in the host's event log for relevant error
messages. For more information, see:

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427

If they're right, try accessing the Internet on the client.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Guest]

Steve,
I’m still a little confused regarding the ICS. The only way I get the option
to allow other users to connect to the Internet is through the Network Setup
Wizard. I don’t find any ‘Internet Connection’ to right-click on. Also, the
Windows XP Help and Support Center states:
===============================================================
· To set up Internet Connection Sharing, run the Network Setup Wizard.
Important
· Do not use Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) in a network with other
domain controllers, DNS servers, gateways, DHCP servers, or systems
configured for static IP.
===============================================================
As stated above, ICS is not to be used on systems configured for static IP.
When I set the TCP/IP to configure automatically, I get the ‘Limited or No
Connectivity’ message. Where is the ‘Internet Connection’ link that I should
right-click on? And should I have auto-configuring for TCP/IP on both host
and client computers?

Thanks again,

Don

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Steve,
I’m still a little confused regarding the ICS. The only way I get the option
to allow other users to connect to the Internet is through the Network Setup
Wizard. I don’t find any ‘Internet Connection’ to right-click on. Also, the
Windows XP Help and Support Center states:
===============================================================
· To set up Internet Connection Sharing, run the Network Setup Wizard.
Important
· Do not use Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) in a network with other
domain controllers, DNS servers, gateways, DHCP servers, or systems
configured for static IP.
===============================================================
As stated above, ICS is not to be used on systems configured for static IP.
When I set the TCP/IP to configure automatically, I get the ‘Limited or No
Connectivity’ message. Where is the ‘Internet Connection’ link that I should
right-click on? And should I have auto-configuring for TCP/IP on both host
and client computers?

Thanks again,

Don

The Help and Support Center information on ICS is incomplete. The
warning message that it gives doesn't apply to your setup.

Setting up ICS via the Network Setup Wizard doesn't seem to be
working, so I recommend doing it manually, as I described in my
previous message. Your Internet Connection is the one that connects
to the cable modem, which, if I understand correctly, is "Local Area
Connection".

Start by configuring both computers to obtain an IP address
automatically. Then, disable and enable ICS. After enabling ICS,
don't change any network settings on either computer.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Guest]

Steve,

Yes, Local Area Connection on the host is connected to the cable modem
Local Area Connection 2 on the host is connected to the SOHO hub.
The client computer is also connected to the hub.

(I feel as though I’m getting a handle on things, but still no luck).

Here’s what I just tried.

On Client, set Local Area Connection to obtain IP/DNS addresses automatically.
On Host, set both Local Area Connections to obtain IP/DNS addresses
automatically.
With ICS enabled (using Local Area Connection – Properties - Advanced Tab) I
get Limited or No Connectivity.

I then disabled ICS using the LAC – Properties-Advanced Tab. Still Limited
or No Connectivity.

Then enable ICS as above. Now shows connected (NOT limited)

On Host, ipconfig /all shows:


Local Area Connection:

Dhcp Enabled Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled Yes

Local Area Connection 2

Dhcp Enabled No
IP Address 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0


On Client, ipconfig /all shows:

Dhcp Enabled Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address 169.254.241.138
Subnet Mask 255.255.0.0


On client, Host computer shown under My Network Places – Entire Network –
Microsoft Windows Network – Mshome (Workgroup)

But, NO file / printer share exists – Message says: \\Donscomputer is not
accessible
The
network path was not found.


(Nothing above seems odd)

Then, RESTART Client computer

This time, Host computer is NOT shown on Mshome workgroup and still no file
/ printer sharing.

This all seems to be correct and not unexpected.

Now, I am going to do the following:

SHUT DOWN the Client Computer,
Re-do all of the above on the Host Computer,
Unplug the cable modem for at least 2 minutes,
Replug the cable modem,
Restart Client Computer,
And check ipconfig /all on host and client.

Any other hints / suggestions at this time?
Should there be any 'settings' checked under ICS Settings with internet
share enabled?

Thanks,

Don

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Steve,

Yes, Local Area Connection on the host is connected to the cable modem
Local Area Connection 2 on the host is connected to the SOHO hub.
The client computer is also connected to the hub.

(I feel as though I’m getting a handle on things, but still no luck).

Here’s what I just tried.

On Client, set Local Area Connection to obtain IP/DNS addresses automatically.
On Host, set both Local Area Connections to obtain IP/DNS addresses
automatically.
With ICS enabled (using Local Area Connection – Properties - Advanced Tab) I
get Limited or No Connectivity.

I then disabled ICS using the LAC – Properties-Advanced Tab. Still Limited
or No Connectivity.

Then enable ICS as above. Now shows connected (NOT limited)

On Host, ipconfig /all shows:


Local Area Connection:

Dhcp Enabled Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled Yes

Local Area Connection 2

Dhcp Enabled No
IP Address 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0


On Client, ipconfig /all shows:

Dhcp Enabled Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address 169.254.241.138
Subnet Mask 255.255.0.0


On client, Host computer shown under My Network Places – Entire Network –
Microsoft Windows Network – Mshome (Workgroup)

But, NO file / printer share exists – Message says: \\Donscomputer is not
accessible
The
network path was not found.


(Nothing above seems odd)

Then, RESTART Client computer

This time, Host computer is NOT shown on Mshome workgroup and still no file
/ printer sharing.

This all seems to be correct and not unexpected.

Now, I am going to do the following:

SHUT DOWN the Client Computer,
Re-do all of the above on the Host Computer,
Unplug the cable modem for at least 2 minutes,
Replug the cable modem,
Restart Client Computer,
And check ipconfig /all on host and client.

Any other hints / suggestions at this time?
Should there be any 'settings' checked under ICS Settings with internet
share enabled?

Thanks,

Don

The problem is that the client computer isn't getting its TCP/IP
configuration from the host computer. The client should be getting a
DHCP address of 192.168.0.x. Instead, it's getting an
Autoconfiguration address of 169.254.x.x.

Rebooting the client might be all that's needed to solve the problem.
The problem doesn't have anything to do with the cable modem.

If the client still has a 169.254.x.x address after it reboots, try
this:

1. Configure the client's LAN connection with a static IP
configuration:

IP Address: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server: 192.168.0.1

2. Open a command prompt window (Start | Run | cmd) on the client and
enter these lines. Each one should receive four replies:

ping 192.168.0.1
ping 64.233.187.99
ping google.com

If the first one fails, the client and host are unable to communicate
through the network hub.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Guest]

Steve,

You are a GENIUS and definate MVP. Client now works as it should.

My most heartfelt thanks for a job well done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don

 

[Guest]

Steve,

One final note. I have definately learned a lot. I remember reading
somewhere what the IP Address and Subnet Mask did and how they were related.
I don't, however, recall what significance the Default Gateway and DNS Server
values were and how they related to the overall picture.

Again,

MANY THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!

Don

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Steve,

You are a GENIUS and definate MVP. Client now works as it should.

My most heartfelt thanks for a job well done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don

You're welcome, Don. I'm glad that my suggestions helped you solve
the problem.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Steve,

One final note. I have definately learned a lot. I remember reading
somewhere what the IP Address and Subnet Mask did and how they were related.
I don't, however, recall what significance the Default Gateway and DNS Server
values were and how they related to the overall picture.

Again,

MANY THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!

Don

You're welcome, Don. The Default Gateway is the address of another
computer or router on the network that connects to the Internet. The
DNS Server address is the computer that acts as a domain name server,
translating a URL (like www.google.com) into its IP address (like
64.233.197.99).
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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[Guest]

I seem to have a similar problem here. I configured the client with the
static IP address and now have connectivity. however i cannot ping
192.168.0.1 as per steves suggestion, it times out. Steves reckons this is a
communication problem through the network hub, how do i go about fixing
this? Dont know if this helps but when messenger tries to connect it states
that the "the default gateway is offline" any help gratefully appreciated
thanks