ANN: VS2005 SP1

  • Thread starter Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
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Chris Nahr

Thanks for the links. Is there any documents that lists the changes
in this gigantic service pack? The MSDN article linked to on the
download page is characteristically "not available"...
 
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Willy Denoyette [MVP]

| Thanks for the links. Is there any documents that lists the changes
| in this gigantic service pack? The MSDN article linked to on the
| download page is characteristically "not available"...
| --
| http://www.kynosarges.de

Yes, it's unfortunate that they make this SP public before the KB article is
even available. Also note that the download page mentions Vista as a target
platform, however, it fails to install on Vista 64 bit. Probably the KB will
tell us that Vista (64?) is currently not supported.

Willy.
 
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Willy Denoyette [MVP]

|
| Would everybody please cancel your downloads so mine will finish faster?
|
| <VBG>
|
|
| On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:00:30 +0100, Thomas Scheidegger [MVP] wrote:
|
| > Final: Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1).
| >
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/support/vs2005sp1/default.aspx
| >
| > Standard, Professional, and Team...:
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=BB4A75AB-E2D4-4C96-B39D-37BAF6B5B1DC
| >
| > Express Ed.:
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7b0b0339-613a-46e6-ab4d-080d4d4a8c4e
| >
| >
| > Blog
| >
http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2006/12/14/vs-2005-sp1-is-released.aspx

Don't hurry, you will need to be patient when applyng the SP1, take a look
at the first dialog, <..may take several minutes to several hours...> ain't
no joke :).

Willy.
 
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Marc Gravell

Also (and it does mention this somewhere on the site):

*** UNINSTALL the web application projects add-on if you have it...

Otherwise it will spend an age churning, and *then* tell you to remove
it (and close itself). Of course, it will still take a few hours to
install (quite literally, depending on spec.)...

Marc
 
J

Jacob

It installs correctly on Vista 32 bit (in the second try), but brings
up a pre-start message that a Vista SP is necessary, even though this
won't be available for another 2 months. VS runs fine if you click OK
and don't bother with it.
 
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Willy Denoyette [MVP]

Jacob said:
It installs correctly on Vista 32 bit (in the second try), but brings
up a pre-start message that a Vista SP is necessary, even though this
won't be available for another 2 months. VS runs fine if you click OK
and don't bother with it.
Click to expand...

Thanks, I know it installs on Vista 32 and I know that we will need an "update for V2005 SP1
for Vista" which will be released Q1 2007. but I need SP1 it on Vista 64, but here the
install fails telling me something like ....no VS2005 found or that the target is
incompatible with SP1... which is BS really, there is only one version of VS2005 Team
Editon, exactly the same as installed on Vista32 or XP and there is only one version of SP1
TE.
No big deal however, there are more issues than that when developing on a 64 bit OS, that's
why I'm using the latest Windows SDK tools (64 bit) and use VS2005 only as an editor on
Vista64.

Willy.
 
A

aaron.kempf

friggin fabulous thanks team

does it fix the 2-3 crashes i've got every day?

the modal dialogue is busy crap?

ROFL

thank god; so when is VS 2003 SP1 coming out?
and Office 2003 next service pack; I heard it was going to offer
support for SQL 2005

-Aaron
 
V

V

Don't hurry, you will need to be patient when applyng the SP1, take a look
at the first dialog, <..may take several minutes to several hours...> ain't
no joke :).

Willy.
Click to expand...

Does anyone know if SP1 is worth it? I was waiting forever for the
fixes to Emacs-mode editing, so I jumped on the SP1 beta. I regret
that. No fixes, and it runs very slow. (Click two controls and wait
for the 'make same size' icon to get enabled... stuff like that).

Is SP1 a similar disaster? I doubt that they've fixed any Emacs bugs.
 
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ShaneO

V said:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:14:20 +0100, "Willy Denoyette [MVP]"

Does anyone know if SP1 is worth it?
Click to expand...

I installed SP1 around 30 minutes ago, and YES, it certainly does seem
to be worth it!

The immediate benefit appears to be the increased speed in working in
the IDE. Development applications start quicker, and close immediately.
They've even fixed the Toolbar Docking issues, so the toolbars really
do remember where they are supposed to be positioned. (Even on a
multi-monitor setup).

The speed increase also appears to have been carried over to the
development application itself. A major app I've been working on for
the past few months shows definite speed increases.

"Help" also loads in 10 secs, not 20!

As far as the many other issues are concerned, I'm yet to determine, but
so far it is looking very good!

ShaneO

There are 10 kinds of people - Those who understand Binary and those who
don't.
 
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Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]

clintonG said:
Following the links at the download page [1] I see no SP download for
Visual Studio 2005 Enterprise Edition. Which download should I use?
Click to expand...

There's no such product as VS 2005 Enterprise Edition. There's Express,
Standard, Professional and Team - no Enterprise. Unless you're using an
express edition, you should use the Team Suite version as that will work for
every version of VS.

-cd
 
V

V

clintonG said:
Following the links at the download page [1] I see no SP download for
Visual Studio 2005 Enterprise Edition. Which download should I use?
Click to expand...

There's no such product as VS 2005 Enterprise Edition. There's Express,
Standard, Professional and Team - no Enterprise. Unless you're using an
express edition, you should use the Team Suite version as that will work for
every version of VS.

-cd
Click to expand...

Carl, Do you know if they've fixed the Emacs bugs in SP1? (Was not the
case in the SP1 beta)

Is everyone else using the standard MS Editor? Not sure why
programmers would like that editor at all.
 
V

V

What the hell! Those are only installation issues, and the link to
"What's New in Visual Studio 2005 SP1" just leads to the MSDN Library
page describing the original VS2005 release.

Just what is so hard about posting a list of fixes and changes!?
Click to expand...

Inspires confidence, doesn't it? It's suprising to hear that the
installation is such a delicate process (have to wait 10 minutes after
the last compile with VS2005 noSP? The dialogs may disappear if you
move the dialog window?) .

Given the problems I've had with the SP1 beta, I'll sit this one out
until there is a compelling reason. Or if there are reports of fixes
to Emacs, then I"ll be the guinea pig, and I'll report in about how it
went. If only anyone knew about Emacs patches. <g>
 
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Frans Bouma [C# MVP]

Willy said:
| > Final: Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1).
| >
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/support/vs2005sp1/default.aspx
| >
| > Standard, Professional, and Team...:
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=BB4A75AB-E2D4
-4C96-B39D-37BAF6B5B1DC | >
| > Express Ed.:
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7b0b0339-613a
-46e6-ab4d-080d4d4a8c4e | >
| >
| > Blog
| >
http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2006/12/14/vs-2005-sp1-is-rele
ased.aspx

Don't hurry, you will need to be patient when applyng the SP1, take a
look at the first dialog, <..may take several minutes to several
hours...> ain't no joke :).
Click to expand...

And make sure you have enough diskspace. I had 2gb free, but it wasn't
enough, it crapped out during file copy with an internal error. (hurray
:/). Gathering required information during installation took 45 minutes
with 100% usage.

So I wondered what this pile of crap they call 'installer' was doing,
and it's requerying the registry OVER AND OVER again. Gee, no wonder
it's slow. :/

It's now busy with its second attempt to install. Let's see if it can
make it to the end or it still craps out with an internal error.

FB

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BobF

clintonG said:
Following the links at the download page [1] I see no SP download for
Visual Studio 2005 Enterprise Edition. Which download should I use?
Click to expand...

There's no such product as VS 2005 Enterprise Edition.
Click to expand...

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...:en&q="Visual+Studio+2005+Enterprise+Edition"
Click to expand...

I clicked the link. Here's what I discovered:

An Ebay ad using the term "Enterprise Edition" which is actually referring
to the "Team Suite".

If you're going to download SP1 from ebay, search for "Enterprise Edition".
If you're downloading SP1 from M$, search for "Team Suite". <g>
 

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