analyzing Defragmentation report

[zipadedodazipadeday]

Hi,
I am using fat32 on xp home edition, when I try to defragment my HD I get a
message saying that certain files cannot be defragmented. I have reecently
tried a third party defragmenter (System Mechanic) and it tells me that I
have 3 files that cannot be defragmented in C:\documents and
settings\owner\NTUSER.DAT.LOG, when I try to access this, Notepad opens up
and says that I need to insert a disc in the drive, Why? I also have 126
file fragments that cannot be defragmented in my pagefile.sys and I am
receiving a high hazard warning (help menu says that this means that the
more fragmented the file is and the greater the performance hit your
computer will take when trying to access the file. Can anybody help me out
with this problem. I do realise that this might not be the right NG for this
problem but if I could sort this out using the XP defragmentation software
then that would be great.

Please if you can help Keep it Simple

Thanks

 

[Larry(LJL269)]

NTUSER.DAT.LOG I dont know about, but the rest is 'the
nature of the beast'. I got em, Bill G has em, ..
Like Pagefile is ur VM & is recreated on boot.
Thats the simple answer.

HTH - Larry

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:53:07 -0000,

|Hi,
|I am using fat32 on xp home edition, when I try to defragment my HD I get a
|message saying that certain files cannot be defragmented. I have reecently
|tried a third party defragmenter (System Mechanic) and it tells me that I
|have 3 files that cannot be defragmented in C:\documents and
|settings\owner\NTUSER.DAT.LOG, when I try to access this, Notepad opens up
|and says that I need to insert a disc in the drive, Why? I also have 126
|file fragments that cannot be defragmented in my pagefile.sys and I am
|receiving a high hazard warning (help menu says that this means that the
|more fragmented the file is and the greater the performance hit your
|computer will take when trying to access the file. Can anybody help me out
|with this problem. I do realise that this might not be the right NG for this
|problem but if I could sort this out using the XP defragmentation software
|then that would be great.
|
|Please if you can help Keep it Simple
|
|Thanks
|

Any advise is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.

 

[zipadedodazipadeday]

What is VM Larry? Thanks for the reply, so what you are saying is that
everybody has a pagefile.sys that cannot be defragmented?

NTUSER.DAT.LOG I dont know about, but the rest is 'the
nature of the beast'. I got em, Bill G has em, ..
Like Pagefile is ur VM & is recreated on boot.
Thats the simple answer.

HTH - Larry

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:53:07 -0000,

|Hi,
|I am using fat32 on xp home edition, when I try to defragment my HD I get a
|message saying that certain files cannot be defragmented. I have reecently
|tried a third party defragmenter (System Mechanic) and it tells me that I
|have 3 files that cannot be defragmented in C:\documents and
|settings\owner\NTUSER.DAT.LOG, when I try to access this, Notepad opens up
|and says that I need to insert a disc in the drive, Why? I also have 126
|file fragments that cannot be defragmented in my pagefile.sys and I am
|receiving a high hazard warning (help menu says that this means that the
|more fragmented the file is and the greater the performance hit your
|computer will take when trying to access the file. Can anybody help me out
|with this problem. I do realise that this might not be the right NG for this
|problem but if I could sort this out using the XP defragmentation software
|then that would be great.
|
|Please if you can help Keep it Simple
|
|Thanks
|

Any advise is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can

only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.

 

[Robert]

Hi,
I am using fat32 on xp home edition, when I try to defragment my HD I
get a message saying that certain files cannot be defragmented. I
have reecently tried a third party defragmenter (System Mechanic) and
it tells me that I have 3 files that cannot be defragmented in
C:\documents and settings\owner\NTUSER.DAT.LOG, when I try to access
this, Notepad opens up and says that I need to insert a disc in the
drive, Why? I also have 126 file fragments that cannot be
defragmented in my pagefile.sys and I am receiving a high hazard
warning (help menu says that this means that the more fragmented the
file is and the greater the performance hit your computer will take
when trying to access the file. Can anybody help me out with this
problem. I do realise that this might not be the right NG for this
problem but if I could sort this out using the XP defragmentation
software then that would be great.

Please if you can help Keep it Simple

Thanks

_________________________________

Hi!
Use PerfectDisk from http://www.raxco.com and do a boot-time defrag.

 

[Alex Nichol]

I am using fat32 on xp home edition, when I try to defragment my HD I get a
message saying that certain files cannot be defragmented. I have reecently
tried a third party defragmenter (System Mechanic) and it tells me that I
have 3 files that cannot be defragmented in C:\documents and
settings\owner\NTUSER.DAT.LOG, when I try to access this, Notepad opens up
and says that I need to insert a disc in the drive, Why? I also have 126
file fragments that cannot be defragmented in my pagefile.sys

Some files that are in use by the system cannot be accessed by anything
else (including the defragmenter) while the system is running. Usually
this is not of great importance. That LOG file is recording changes
made in the user part of the registry during the session and is one such
example (it will also not be a text file Notepad could handle anyway).

Fragmentation of the page file does not matter as much as some think,
but that many fragments is excessive. The way round is to go to
Control Panel - System - Advanced - Performance Settings - Advanced -
Virtual Memory. Click Change, and select the drive where it is (C if
you have not done anything). Highlight that, select 'no page file' and
click Set. OK out and immediately reboot, hitting F8 as BIOS info goes
to black, taking Safe Mode. Run the defragmenter in that, then put the
Virtual memory settings back (remembering to click that Set button) as
they were, to reboot with the page fie at least minimally fragmented

 

[Larry(LJL269)]

I thought pagefile is recreated on boot & so any frags
are lost. Wrong?

PCWorld Feb 04 P81 claims their tests found no
significant speed increase in latest PC's due to
defrag. My own experience with DI6 confirms this.
No URL yet 4 current issue.

Comments/suggestions/corrections appreciated.
Thanks- bye- Larry


On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 14:24:50 +0000, Alex Nichol

|zipadedodazipadeday wrote:
|
|>I am using fat32 on xp home edition, when I try to defragment my HD I get a
|>message saying that certain files cannot be defragmented. I have reecently
|>tried a third party defragmenter (System Mechanic) and it tells me that I
|>have 3 files that cannot be defragmented in C:\documents and
|>settings\owner\NTUSER.DAT.LOG, when I try to access this, Notepad opens up
|>and says that I need to insert a disc in the drive, Why? I also have 126
|>file fragments that cannot be defragmented in my pagefile.sys
|
|Some files that are in use by the system cannot be accessed by anything
|else (including the defragmenter) while the system is running. Usually
|this is not of great importance. That LOG file is recording changes
|made in the user part of the registry during the session and is one such
|example (it will also not be a text file Notepad could handle anyway).
|
|Fragmentation of the page file does not matter as much as some think,
|but that many fragments is excessive. The way round is to go to
|Control Panel - System - Advanced - Performance Settings - Advanced -
|Virtual Memory. Click Change, and select the drive where it is (C if
|you have not done anything). Highlight that, select 'no page file' and
|click Set. OK out and immediately reboot, hitting F8 as BIOS info goes
|to black, taking Safe Mode. Run the defragmenter in that, then put the
|Virtual memory settings back (remembering to click that Set button) as
|they were, to reboot with the page fie at least minimally fragmented

Any advise is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.

 

[Larry(LJL269)]

VM=VirtualMemory=pagefile.
Yes that was my understanding. Alex says no below, so I
suggest u follow that thread.He knows more than I 4
sure.

HTH - Larry

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:47:55 -0000,

|What is VM Larry? Thanks for the reply, so what you are saying is that
|everybody has a pagefile.sys that cannot be defragmented?
||> NTUSER.DAT.LOG I dont know about, but the rest is 'the
|> nature of the beast'. I got em, Bill G has em, ..
|> Like Pagefile is ur VM & is recreated on boot.
|> Thats the simple answer.
|>
|> HTH - Larry
|>
|> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:53:07 -0000,
|>
|> |Hi,
|> |I am using fat32 on xp home edition, when I try to defragment my HD I get
|a
|> |message saying that certain files cannot be defragmented. I have
|reecently
|> |tried a third party defragmenter (System Mechanic) and it tells me that I
|> |have 3 files that cannot be defragmented in C:\documents and
|> |settings\owner\NTUSER.DAT.LOG, when I try to access this, Notepad opens
|up
|> |and says that I need to insert a disc in the drive, Why? I also have 126
|> |file fragments that cannot be defragmented in my pagefile.sys and I am
|> |receiving a high hazard warning (help menu says that this means that the
|> |more fragmented the file is and the greater the performance hit your
|> |computer will take when trying to access the file. Can anybody help me
|out
|> |with this problem. I do realise that this might not be the right NG for
|this
|> |problem but if I could sort this out using the XP defragmentation
|software
|> |then that would be great.
|> |
|> |Please if you can help Keep it Simple
|> |
|> |Thanks
|> |
|>
|> Any advise is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can
|only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.
|

Any advise is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.

 

[Alex Nichol]

I thought pagefile is recreated on boot & so any frags
are lost. Wrong?

It will - but I think that if it is grossly fragmented this is because
the free space is, and it is being recreated into the fragments it was
in before. So having it in such an enormous number of fragments
indicates a lack of health. Defragging can be overdone, but it is not
good to have a new big data file or newly installed program scattered
around the disk in bits - it is bound to slow access to it. That's why
I like to get free space defragged, not worrying too much about a few
files left over in 2 or 3 pieces, or the page file where any access is
intermittent and random, direct to the sector without searching down the
file. And why I prefer Perfect Disk over Diskeeper (or the inbuilt
tool) , where the authors (Executive Software) deliberately do *not*
consolidate free space