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hotister

Dear all:

AMD Athlon 64 3300+ 2.40GHz / 256KB Cache / 1600MHz FSB / OEM / Socket
754 / Processor, $19.97 after rebate

Intel Pentium D 840 3.2GHz / 2MB Cache / 800 FSB / OEM / Socket 775 /
Dual-Core / $99.99 after rebate

from tigerdirect.com

Which CPU would have better price/performance ratio? Is there any web
site that compare these two CPU performance/benchmark?? Also, I
currently have a socket A AMD Athlon 3200+ CPU, which I think might be
damaged, could I recycle the socket A cooling fan for any Socket 754
CPU?? Thanks so much!
 
M

Mike T.

Dear all:

AMD Athlon 64 3300+ 2.40GHz / 256KB Cache / 1600MHz FSB / OEM / Socket
754 / Processor, $19.97 after rebate

Intel Pentium D 840 3.2GHz / 2MB Cache / 800 FSB / OEM / Socket 775 /
Dual-Core / $99.99 after rebate

from tigerdirect.com

Which CPU would have better price/performance ratio? Is there any web
site that compare these two CPU performance/benchmark?? Also, I
currently have a socket A AMD Athlon 3200+ CPU, which I think might be
damaged, could I recycle the socket A cooling fan for any Socket 754
CPU?? Thanks so much!

The Pentium D is faster, but not 500% faster. So the best bang/buck would
be the AMD proc. Don't listen to people who say that socket 754 is dead.
So is socket 775, by the time you get ready to upgrade.

You could possibly recycle the cooling fan. BUT, it would be a terrible
idea. Cooling fans are cheap, and they don't last forever. Better to start
with a new one.

Before you decide which processor is the better deal though, look at cost of
mainboard and (RAM, for that mainboard). The last time I built, I was on a
tight budget (not my machine, or my money) and I found that Intel was a
better deal, at the time. The AMD processors were faster and cheaper, but
there was a better selection of mainboards for the Intel chip. Thus my
total cost to build a similar system ended up being cheaper, even though the
processor was a little more expensive. At the time, I would have used the
same RAM board for either system, so that was not a factor.

For example, let's say the mainboard you would use for the AMD chip is $50
more and the RAM that you need for that mainboard is $30 more. Now the
Intel chip looks like a better deal, as it is faster, and total cost to
build is identical. But I doubt if the numbers will work out like that. I
think you'll still find total cost to build is AMD, and that bang/buck
favors the AMD chip, as well. -Dave
 
J

Jan Alter

Mike T. said:
The Pentium D is faster, but not 500% faster. So the best bang/buck would
be the AMD proc. Don't listen to people who say that socket 754 is dead.
So is socket 775, by the time you get ready to upgrade.

You could possibly recycle the cooling fan. BUT, it would be a terrible
idea. Cooling fans are cheap, and they don't last forever. Better to
start with a new one.

Before you decide which processor is the better deal though, look at cost
of mainboard and (RAM, for that mainboard). The last time I built, I was
on a tight budget (not my machine, or my money) and I found that Intel was
a better deal, at the time. The AMD processors were faster and cheaper,
but there was a better selection of mainboards for the Intel chip. Thus
my total cost to build a similar system ended up being cheaper, even
though the processor was a little more expensive. At the time, I would
have used the same RAM board for either system, so that was not a factor.

For example, let's say the mainboard you would use for the AMD chip is $50
more and the RAM that you need for that mainboard is $30 more. Now the
Intel chip looks like a better deal, as it is faster, and total cost to
build is identical. But I doubt if the numbers will work out like that.
I think you'll still find total cost to build is AMD, and that bang/buck
favors the AMD chip, as well. -Dave
The AMD AMD Athlon 64 3300+ 2.40GHz / 256KB Cache / 1600MHz FSB / OEM /
Socket
Pretty amazing. It already sounds too good to be true. However, having read
for years so many negative things about Tigerdirect makes me understanding
of such an offer from them and to be cautious of taking it seriously in the
first place.
 
E

EDM

visions of effty said:
Yes, yes, but where do you see this price on the tiger direct site?

I don't actually *see* this price anywhere.

TD appears to be sold out on this special.
 
B

Ben Dover

(e-mail address removed) blabbered in @p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
Dear all:

AMD Athlon 64 3300+ 2.40GHz / 256KB Cache / 1600MHz FSB / OEM / Socket
754 / Processor, $19.97 after rebate

Intel Pentium D 840 3.2GHz / 2MB Cache / 800 FSB / OEM / Socket 775 /
Dual-Core / $99.99 after rebate

from tigerdirect.com

Which CPU would have better price/performance ratio? Is there any web
site that compare these two CPU performance/benchmark?? Also, I
currently have a socket A AMD Athlon 3200+ CPU, which I think might be
damaged, could I recycle the socket A cooling fan for any Socket 754
CPU?? Thanks so much!

Frankly, neither one is a good idea. For all intents and purposes, both
chips are at the end of their useful life in that no new mobos are going
to be made for those cpu's. If eventual upgrade is in your plans,
definitely go for a 939 chip. Yes - I know the AM2 architecture will soon
be supplanting the 939, but there have been issues with DDR2 ram that
have many people taking a "wait and see" approach to that upgrade path.
There are dozens of 939 mobos still being offered and AMD has drastically
cut all core prices for the AM2 push. You can get a dual core 4400+
processor now for about $250 if you shop around. If price is the sole
issue, I just bought an AMD 3500+ 2.2ghz processor for $99. Considering I
just paid $135 2 months ago for a 3200+ 2.0ghz chip...that's a deal hard
to pass up, and they will likely go a bit lower that that soon.

Unless there are other issues that make you want to stay with socket 754
(AGP video, maybe?) there is nothing to gain by staying with it - even
with that $20 deal chip. Spend a few bucks more now and stay reasonably
current.
 
T

Thomas Wendell

The 3300+ marking on the AMD makes me think oabout Semprons....


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H

hotister

Hi Ben:

Yes you were right, it was the AGP video that hold me from upgrading to
a 939 chip based system. As I just bought a new AGP video card...

By the way, from what I heard, it seems that Windows XP 64-bit edition
still have some issues with some 32bit applications, so I don't know
how much gain I could get to get a 64-bit CPU (AMD Athlon XP versus
Athlon 64). Will Microsoft iron out all the 64-bit issues in the
Vista?? That to me is a big question mark.

Generally speaking, will I be better off to just get a Dell PC from
Dell outlet?? It seems that they have some nice sub $500 system which
might even include a PCI Express slot..
 

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