always hide your backups!

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BW

Some villains broke in through laundry window. House behind has been
vacant for 2 weeks, so
they wouldn't have been seen.
They grabbed my wife's laptop. She backs it up onto a 128GB thumb
drive, but that was lying on
table, so the scumbags took it too.

BTW they also took one of those Paywave credit cards, and racked up
quite a few small purchases before
it was cancelled. We will not be replacing it.
 
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Arno

BW said:
Some villains broke in through laundry window. House behind has been
vacant for 2 weeks, so
they wouldn't have been seen.
They grabbed my wife's laptop. She backs it up onto a 128GB thumb
drive, but that was lying on
table, so the scumbags took it too.
Click to expand...
BTW they also took one of those Paywave credit cards, and racked up
quite a few small purchases before
it was cancelled. We will not be replacing it.
Click to expand...

Off-site backup is not a luxury, it is a requirement for any
reasonable backup strategy. What happened to your wife is just one
of the reasons.

Arno
 
M

mike

Safe deposit boxes are pretty cheap for backups on a HD.

You can take the drive out once a month and update it from your local
backups using a mirroring program.
Click to expand...
If you're managing the launch codes, sure, do whatever it takes.
For most of us, a safe deposit box is not a solution.
Do you really expect joe sixpack to take off work during banking
hours and drive across town to swap drives in his SD box?
For mirroring, you need two trips to the bank and you're exposed
for all the time you have the drives in the same place.

A backup strategy is only as good as your motivation to use it.

A much simpler system might be to swap flash drives or hard drives with
a neighbor
or a colleague from work or a friend from the gym
on a regular basis.

Solves two backup problems at once.
 
S

shawn

Off-site backup is not a luxury, it is a requirement for any
reasonable backup strategy. What happened to your wife is just one
of the reasons.
Click to expand...

But it isn't going to happen for general home users. What might make
more sense for them is to have one of those safes that you can mount
to the floor. Put it in an out of the way place where someone who
breaks in isn't likely to see it. Then you can put a HD or thumb drive
in the safe and be somewhat safe. Sure, those safes aren't going to
stop a determined thief but this sounds like a theft of oppotunity and
someone like that isn't going to take time to look for a safe unless
they know it is there.
 
R

Rod Speed

mike said:
If you're managing the launch codes, sure, do whatever it takes.
For most of us, a safe deposit box is not a solution.
Do you really expect joe sixpack to take off work during banking
hours and drive across town to swap drives in his SD box?
For mirroring, you need two trips to the bank and you're exposed
for all the time you have the drives in the same place.

A backup strategy is only as good as your motivation to use it.

A much simpler system might be to swap flash drives or hard drives with a
neighbor
or a colleague from work or a friend from the gym
on a regular basis.
Click to expand...

Or just between your home and your work.
 
R

Rod Speed

shawn said:
But it isn't going to happen for general home users. What might make
more sense for them is to have one of those safes that you can mount
to the floor. Put it in an out of the way place where someone who
breaks in isn't likely to see it. Then you can put a HD or thumb drive
in the safe and be somewhat safe. Sure, those safes aren't going to
stop a determined thief but this sounds like a theft of oppotunity and
someone like that isn't going to take time to look for a safe unless
they know it is there.
Click to expand...

Offsite backup kept at work or both that and a safe that's hard to find is
better.
 
G

GMAN

Some villains broke in through laundry window. House behind has been
vacant for 2 weeks, so
they wouldn't have been seen.
They grabbed my wife's laptop. She backs it up onto a 128GB thumb
drive, but that was lying on
table, so the scumbags took it too.

BTW they also took one of those Paywave credit cards, and racked up
quite a few small purchases before
it was cancelled. We will not be replacing it.
Click to expand...

This is why i own an AR-15
 
A

Arno

But it isn't going to happen for general home users. What might make
more sense for them is to have one of those safes that you can mount
to the floor. Put it in an out of the way place where someone who
breaks in isn't likely to see it. Then you can put a HD or thumb drive
in the safe and be somewhat safe. Sure, those safes aren't going to
stop a determined thief but this sounds like a theft of oppotunity and
someone like that isn't going to take time to look for a safe unless
they know it is there.
Click to expand...

It is not that hard. If you have a locker or other lockable container
somwehere (gym, club, work), that is already enough. Just get 2-3 cheap
USB HDDs and rotate them.

Arno
 
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Arno

This is why i own an AR-15
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The only credibly demonstrated use of an AR-15 for a private citizen
seems to be to murder large numbers of innocent people. Unless you
are planning to do that, it seems you have wasted your money.

Arno
 
M

miso

Not clear how that helps you back up your system.
And if you had owned an AR-15, you wouldn't own one after
they stole it.
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You read my mind. I had to laugh at the thought of someone spending 24
and 7 at their PC with their hand on the trigger.

If you are doing offsite backups, you should encrypt the data. If your
backup fits on a thumb drive, that sounds like a task for Carbonite.
 
R

Roger Blake

The only credibly demonstrated use of an AR-15 for a private citizen
seems to be to murder large numbers of innocent people.
Click to expand...

That goes double for governments, which have used assault weapons and
other types of weapons to butcher more innocent people than the most
ambitious private-sector criminal could even dream of.

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"Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental
protection... the next world climate summit in Cancun is actually
an economy summit during which the distribution of the world's
resources will be negotiated." -- Ottmar Edenhofer, IPCC
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A

Arno

That goes double for governments, which have used assault weapons and
other types of weapons to butcher more innocent people than the most
ambitious private-sector criminal could even dream of.
Click to expand...

True. Goverments are among the most immoral constructs the human
race has come up with. Single individuals cannot compete.

Arno
 
G

GMAN

This is why i own an AR-15
Click to expand...

The only credibly demonstrated use of an AR-15 for a private citizen
seems to be to murder large numbers of innocent people. Unless you
are planning to do that, it seems you have wasted your money.

Arno[/QUOTE]

No, basically its a souped up 22 and you just came across as a crazed liberal.
I am sure you are going to call me a gun crazed,bible clutching,conservative.

No, i just enjoy hunting, fishing, the 2nd amendment "AND" protecting MY
FAMILY !!!!! and I am not going to have freaks the like of Harry reid, Nancy
Pelosi, and Obama telling me what i can and cant own.

What gives you the right to tell me i cant own a gun to keep YOU out of MY
house or away from harming MY family?
 
G

GMAN

True. Goverments are among the most immoral constructs the human
race has come up with. Single individuals cannot compete.

Arno
Click to expand...

An AR15 helps to level the field IMHO!!!
 
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Arno

GMAN said:
No, basically its a souped up 22 and you just came across as a crazed liberal.
I am sure you are going to call me a gun crazed,bible clutching,conservative.
Click to expand...

I am European. By US standards we are _all_ "crazed liberals" here,
if you discount the few neo-fascists.
No, i just enjoy hunting, fishing, the 2nd amendment "AND" protecting MY
FAMILY !!!!!
Click to expand...

Forget about the last item. You will not be there when something
bad happens. Modern society does not allow for it. Unless you
are a full-time body-guard for them?
and I am not going to have freaks the like of Harry reid, Nancy
Pelosi, and Obama telling me what i can and cant own.
Click to expand...
What gives you the right to tell me i cant own a gun to keep YOU out of MY
house or away from harming MY family?
Click to expand...

Did I do that? No, I did not. What I did tell you is that this gun is
basically useless. Let me be even clearer: These "protection"
fantasies you have are completely unrealistic.

Nowhere did I say that you cannot have an AR-15. I did not even state
that gun-ownership causes people to want to go on killing-sprees. It
does not. (We recently had somebody that tried with an axe and knifes.
No victims, turns out killing this way is pretty hard.) But it drives
up the number of victims dramatically. And if you dispute that, then
you are a crazed, immoral gun-fanatic.

If I wanted to harm your family (which I have no intention of doing,
because that would be unethical and exceedingly impolite), or going
into your house (which I have no intention of doing without invitation,
same reason), your gun would help you not one bit.

Arno
Click to expand...
 
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David Lesher

BW said:
Some villains broke in through laundry window. House behind has
been vacant for 2 weeks, so they wouldn't have been seen. They
grabbed my wife's laptop. She backs it up onto a 128GB thumb
drive, but that was lying on table, so the scumbags took it
too.
Click to expand...

This is but one reason why it is NOT a backup unless it is
offsite. The other ones are fire, and "the Katrina Syndrome.."

You need Crashplan and a backup-buddy; someone in another state.
Swap with her/him.

CP is free for personal use.
 

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