AGP card on Windows 95a

[Steven Kobes]

I want Windows 95 SP1 to work with my GeForce4 MX440. I've heard that
AGP support was added in OSR 2.1, but an AGP card will still work in
"PCI mode" on earlier versions.

But when I installed the latest NVidia Win 9x/Me drivers (ForceWare
61.76), the computer rebooted just after showing the Win 95 splash
screen, and I had to use safe mode to remove the drivers. I tried an
older version (Detonator 30.82) and the installer said something about
an unrecognized PCI ID.

I don't need 3D acceleration or anything; I just want to get higher
modes than 640x480x16 @ 60 Hz, which is what it's stuck at under the
standard VGA driver. Can anyone help?

TIA,
Steve

 

[J. Clarke]

I want Windows 95 SP1 to work with my GeForce4 MX440. I've heard that
AGP support was added in OSR 2.1, but an AGP card will still work in
"PCI mode" on earlier versions.

But when I installed the latest NVidia Win 9x/Me drivers (ForceWare
61.76), the computer rebooted just after showing the Win 95 splash
screen, and I had to use safe mode to remove the drivers. I tried an
older version (Detonator 30.82) and the installer said something about
an unrecognized PCI ID.

I don't need 3D acceleration or anything; I just want to get higher
modes than 640x480x16 @ 60 Hz, which is what it's stuck at under the
standard VGA driver. Can anyone help?

You need to start by finding drivers that claim to be compatible with
Windows 95 SP1, if you can. The latest 9x/ME drivers are for 98.

 

[Steven Kobes]

You need to start by finding drivers that claim to be compatible with
Windows 95 SP1, if you can. The latest 9x/ME drivers are for 98.

They really shouldn't label it "Windows 95/98/Me" if it doesn't work
on Windows 95. :-(

Any idea where I might find such a driver?

Steve

 

[J. Clarke]

They really shouldn't label it "Windows 95/98/Me" if it doesn't work
on Windows 95. :-(

Always read the release notes:

Any idea where I might find such a driver?

From the nvidia driver archive, which is a link from the same page you got
the 61.76 driver off of, assuming you got it from the "download" link on
the nvidia site and not from some third party. The archive has releases
back to 28.32 dated April 26, 2002.

 

[Tod]

Why are you still running Win 95,
I would think it would be cheap to find a Win 98SE upgrade CD.

 

[Steven Kobes]

Always read the release notes:
<http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/...vers_Release_Notes_Windows_XP-2000-9x-NT4.pdf>

The release notes for version 56.64 (http://tinyurl.com/2y4md)
indicate that Windows 95 is supported, with the following "additional
requirements":

- OSR2 with USB supplement for AGP
- Microsoft OPENGL32.DLL
- Microsoft DirectX 5

I took this to mean that 56.64 will work on pre-OSR2 Win95 if you
don't mind running the card in PCI mode. But this driver exhibits the
same problems as 61.76. Furthermore, the uninstaller is linked to a
USER32.DLL export (GetWindowInfo, http://tinyurl.com/5l479) which was
introduced in Windows 98! NVidia clearly did not test this driver on
ANY Windows 95 system, OSR2 or otherwise.

So, FYI, NVidia's release notes are not to be trusted, at least in the
matter of Win95 compatibility.

From the nvidia driver archive, which is a link from the same page
you got the 61.76 driver off of, assuming you got it from the
"download" link on the nvidia site and not from some third party.
The archive has releases back to 28.32 dated April 26, 2002.

I will try some more of the older versions (though as my original post
indicates, version 30.82 from 8/7/02 gave an "unrecognized PCI ID"
error). I was hoping someone might know specifically which version
works, so I wouldn't have to try each one in turn (big pain in the
neck with the restarts and such)... but apparently not.

Steve

 

[Steven Kobes]

Why are you still running Win 95,
I would think it would be cheap to find a Win 98SE upgrade CD.

Yes, it would be cheap, though somewhat unnecessary considering I have
XP pro sp2 on my second partition.

I use Win 95 to test software that I write for clients who want their
software to work on Win 95, and to test my webpages when I want to see
what they look like in IE 4. I also have some old games that seem to
prefer Win 95.

 

[J. Clarke]

The release notes for version 56.64 (http://tinyurl.com/2y4md)
indicate that Windows 95 is supported, with the following "additional
requirements":

- OSR2 with USB supplement for AGP
- Microsoft OPENGL32.DLL
- Microsoft DirectX 5

I took this to mean that 56.64 will work on pre-OSR2 Win95 if you
don't mind running the card in PCI mode.

That is not what they said, they said that OSR2 with the supplement was
required. Not optional, required.

 

[John Oliver]

Why are you still running Win 95,
I would think it would be cheap to find a Win 98SE upgrade CD.

And free to get a Linux CD... :-D