Aero Display

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Hello

I've vista ultimate and NVIDIA GeForce MX 440 (Microsoft Coeporation - XDDM)
dispaly adapter.
Can I get to work dreamscene - aero display ? What is glass effect windows
and how do I enable it ?

Where can I get this icon in Quick Launch where I can select and switch
between many windows ?

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[Andrew McLaren]

I've vista ultimate and NVIDIA GeForce MX 440 (Microsoft Coeporation -

XDDM) dispaly adapter.
Can I get to work dreamscene - aero display ? What is glass effect
windows and how do I enable it ?

I regret your MX 440 video card is not capable of displaying Aero graphics.

The various hardware requirements for Vista are described here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919183

As noted in that article, Aero requires a graphics card that:
- Supports a Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM) driver
- Has a DirectX 9-class graphics processor unit (GPU) that supports
Pixel Shader 2.0
- Supports 32 bits per pixel

The MX 440 does not have any Pixel Shader.

Where can I get this icon in Quick Launch where I can select and switch
between many windows ?

You won't get that icon unless Vista is running Aero. Since your graphics
card can't support Aero, you don't see the icon.

If you really want to get the full Aaero graphics interface, you will need
to buy a more modern/powerful graphics card.

Sorry for the bad news,

 

[Cal Bear '66]

You will have to upgrade your video card to get Aero.

 

[Tom Porterfield]

Hello

I've vista ultimate and NVIDIA GeForce MX 440 (Microsoft Coeporation -
XDDM) dispaly adapter.
Can I get to work dreamscene - aero display ? What is glass effect
windows and how do I enable it ?

Where can I get this icon in Quick Launch where I can select and switch
between many windows ?

In order to support AERO, glass, flip 3D and the rest of the similar UI
features in Vista you need a video card with at least 128 MB of graphics
memory. The GeForce MX 440 only has 64 MB graphics memory so AERO is
not supported.

 

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Thank you for the replies. Which graphics card to go for ? I've 2.8Ghz
Pentium 4 cpu and 1 gb RAM.

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[Synapse Syndrome]

In order to support AERO, glass, flip 3D and the rest of the similar UI
features in Vista you need a video card with at least 128 MB of graphics
memory. The GeForce MX 440 only has 64 MB graphics memory so AERO is not
supported.

It's not just the amount of memory that is important, and you can even get
Aero running on cards with less memory. The important thing is DirectX 9
support on the gfx card. Aero relies on DirectX 9 instructions.

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[Tom Porterfield]

Thank you for the replies. Which graphics card to go for ? I've 2.8Ghz
Pentium 4 cpu and 1 gb RAM.

An extensive list of hardware, including video cards, that is compatible
with Windows Vista can be found at http://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/.

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

Thank you for the replies. Which graphics card to go for ? I've 2.8Ghz
Pentium 4 cpu and 1 gb RAM.

Any current nVidea GeForce 8xxx series or ATi Radeon Xxxxx series cards with
DirectX9 and 128MB memory is fine.

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[Synapse Syndrome]

Thank you for the replies. Which graphics card to go for ? I've 2.8Ghz
Pentium 4 cpu and 1 gb RAM.

Oh, another thing..

You will need to find an AGP graphics card. This will restrict the amount
of cards available to you quite a lot, so make choosing easier. Most cards
you will find these days are PCIe.

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[Cal Bear '66]

nVidia's new 8500 256MB series (direct x 10) go for less than $US 100.00.

What is your graphics interface, PCI, AGP, or PCI-X?

 

[Andy [Ex-MSFT]]

Oh, another thing..

You will need to find an AGP graphics card. This will restrict the amount
of cards available to you quite a lot, so make choosing easier. Most
cards you will find these days are PCIe.

Yeah, but it's funny nVidia is still releasing new AGP cards, usually series
7, but still. I think their latest card is a 7600 with GDDR3 ram.

Crazy, but good to know AGP isn't dead yet. Run down to Best Buy "haze", ask
for a decent AGP card for your system. Take your computer down if you don't
know how to install it and they'll do it for you. (or order from newegg.com
if you know what you're doing)

-A.

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

nVidia's new 8500 256MB series (direct x 10) go for less than $US 100.00.

What is your graphics interface, PCI, AGP, or PCI-X?

You meant PCIe, or PCI-E, surely. PCI-X is a different thing, 64-bit slots
found on workstation and server motherboards, and some Apple Powermacs.

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[Cal Bear '66]

Yes PCI-e

--
I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!

You meant PCIe, or PCI-E, surely. PCI-X is a different thing, 64-bit slots
found on workstation and server motherboards, and some Apple Powermacs.

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I think mine is AGP. How can I be certain ? It is not with the rest of the
PCI slots anyway. Some nvidia graphics come with DirectX 10. Just need
single DVI-I (single-link) .... is that the cable lnking pc to the monitor ?
The price for new 8500 given by Bear is reasonable. Though don't know how
much it would be here in the UK.

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[Synapse Syndrome]

I think mine is AGP. How can I be certain ? It is not with the rest of
the PCI slots anyway. Some nvidia graphics come with DirectX 10. Just
need single DVI-I (single-link) .... is that the cable lnking pc to the
monitor ? The price for new 8500 given by Bear is reasonable. Though don't
know how much it would be here in the UK.

The NVIDIA GeForce MX 440 is too old to have had a PCIe version. So, it can
be deduced that you have an AGP motherboard.

DVI-I is the connection to the monitor. But if you have a CRT monitor, or
an older LCD screen, you may need to use a VGA adaptor with it. Retail
boxes come with these usually.

I am in the UK too. There is no AGP version of the GeForce 8500. Andy
[Ex-MSFT] suggests the 7600 AGP. These are little over £50 here.

http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=NVIDIA+7600+AGP&show=dd&scoring=p

ss.

 

[hash]

Thanks for all the info. Is the PCI same as PCIe ? My PC is HP Pavilion
t160.uk desktop. Would Ge-Force 8500 fit in PCI slot ?

I gather from your posts we have PCI, PCIe, PCI-E, PCI-X, and AGP - so which
is a far better interface in terms of display properties ? Anything new in
pipeline replacing these interfaces ? What was wrong with AGP ?

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I think mine is AGP. How can I be certain ? It is not with the rest of
the PCI slots anyway. Some nvidia graphics come with DirectX 10. Just
need single DVI-I (single-link) .... is that the cable lnking pc to the
monitor ? The price for new 8500 given by Bear is reasonable. Though
don't know how much it would be here in the UK.

The NVIDIA GeForce MX 440 is too old to have had a PCIe version. So, it
can be deduced that you have an AGP motherboard.

DVI-I is the connection to the monitor. But if you have a CRT monitor, or
an older LCD screen, you may need to use a VGA adaptor with it. Retail
boxes come with these usually.

I am in the UK too. There is no AGP version of the GeForce 8500. Andy
[Ex-MSFT] suggests the 7600 AGP. These are little over £50 here.

http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=NVIDIA+7600+AGP&show=dd&scoring=p

ss.

 

[Cal Bear '66]

PCI-e is different from PCI. You cannot use a PCI-e card in a PCI slot.

PCI-e is the current high end video interface.

Don't know about anything in the pipeline.

PCI is dead for video
AGP is dying


--
I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!

Thanks for all the info. Is the PCI same as PCIe ? My PC is HP Pavilion
t160.uk desktop. Would Ge-Force 8500 fit in PCI slot ?

I gather from your posts we have PCI, PCIe, PCI-E, PCI-X, and AGP - so which
is a far better interface in terms of display properties ? Anything new in
pipeline replacing these interfaces ? What was wrong with AGP ?

hash

I think mine is AGP. How can I be certain ? It is not with the rest of the
PCI slots anyway. Some nvidia graphics come with DirectX 10. Just need
single DVI-I (single-link) .... is that the cable lnking pc to the monitor ?
The price for new 8500 given by Bear is reasonable. Though don't know how
much it would be here in the UK.

The NVIDIA GeForce MX 440 is too old to have had a PCIe version. So, it can
be deduced that you have an AGP motherboard.

DVI-I is the connection to the monitor. But if you have a CRT monitor, or an
older LCD screen, you may need to use a VGA adaptor with it. Retail boxes
come with these usually.

I am in the UK too. There is no AGP version of the GeForce 8500. Andy
[Ex-MSFT] suggests the 7600 AGP. These are little over £50 here.

http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=NVIDIA+7600+AGP&show=dd&scoring=p

ss.

 

[NotMe]

PCI has been around a long time, but it is different than PCI-Enhanced.
The PCI slots will take modems, sound cards, network cards, etc.
You probably have more than one regular PCI slot in your machine.
The PCI-E is designed just for video cards and is not compatible with a
regular PCI card.
PCI-E is supposed to be faster than the AGP it replaces which was faster
than the regular PCI which was faster than the older ISA interface.
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A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
(e-mail address removed)
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Thanks for all the info. Is the PCI same as PCIe ? My PC is HP Pavilion
t160.uk desktop. Would Ge-Force 8500 fit in PCI slot ?

I gather from your posts we have PCI, PCIe, PCI-E, PCI-X, and AGP - so
which is a far better interface in terms of display properties ? Anything
new in pipeline replacing these interfaces ? What was wrong with AGP ?

hash

I think mine is AGP. How can I be certain ? It is not with the rest of
the PCI slots anyway. Some nvidia graphics come with DirectX 10. Just
need single DVI-I (single-link) .... is that the cable lnking pc to the
monitor ? The price for new 8500 given by Bear is reasonable. Though
don't know how much it would be here in the UK.

The NVIDIA GeForce MX 440 is too old to have had a PCIe version. So, it
can be deduced that you have an AGP motherboard.

DVI-I is the connection to the monitor. But if you have a CRT monitor,
or an older LCD screen, you may need to use a VGA adaptor with it.
Retail boxes come with these usually.

I am in the UK too. There is no AGP version of the GeForce 8500. Andy
[Ex-MSFT] suggests the 7600 AGP. These are little over £50 here.

http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=NVIDIA+7600+AGP&show=dd&scoring=p

ss.

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

PCI has been around a long time, but it is different than PCI-Enhanced.

It's actually short for PCI-Express

The PCI slots will take modems, sound cards, network cards, etc.
You probably have more than one regular PCI slot in your machine.

PCI used to be used for graphics cards as well, until AGP was introduced, as
was 16-bit ISA before it.

The PCI-E is designed just for video cards and is not compatible with a
regular PCI card.

PCI-E (PCIe) is actually the complete replacement for PCI and AGP. At the
moment PCIe motherboards also have PCI slots for legacy cards, but gradually
PCI slots will be phased out altogether. I have a PCIe TV-card as well as a
PCIe graphics card.

There are different sized slots, and a PCIe 1x card can also fit into a 2x,
4x, 8x, or 16x sized slot; they are upwards compatible. On some
motherboards the smaller slots are open ended, making them downwards
compatible as well, although the cards will run at the lesser speed to what
they were designed to do.

ss,

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

Thanks for all the info. Is the PCI same as PCIe ? My PC is HP Pavilion
t160.uk desktop. Would Ge-Force 8500 fit in PCI slot ?

I gather from your posts we have PCI, PCIe, PCI-E, PCI-X, and AGP - so
which is a far better interface in terms of display properties ? Anything
new in pipeline replacing these interfaces ? What was wrong with AGP ?

As far as graphics cards are concerned, PCI-Express (PCI-E / PCIe) has
replaced AGP. PCIe will go through versions with increasing speed, but will
remain the standard for years to come, and nothing is planned to replace it.

ss.