Adding network protocol?

[Terry Pinnell]

How do I add a new network protocol in Win XP Home please? I want to
try adding NetBEUI, as I have just added that on my W98 PC in the
shed/workshop in an attempt to share files.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

How to install NetBEUI on Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301041/EN-US/

The NetBEUI Protocol Is Not Available in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306059/en-us

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| How do I add a new network protocol in Win XP Home please? I want to
| try adding NetBEUI, as I have just added that on my W98 PC in the
| shed/workshop in an attempt to share files.
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| Terry, West Sussex, UK

 

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301041

However, my early testing found that the XP version didn't play nicely with NetBEUI on older Windows systems. If you have access to a Windows 2000 CD see http://www.scotsnewsletter.com/38.htm and scroll down to

How to Install Windows 2000 NetBEUI Under Windows XP

 

[Terry Pinnell]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301041

However, my early testing found that the XP version didn't play nicely with NetBEUI on older Windows systems. If you have access to a Windows 2000 CD see http://www.scotsnewsletter.com/38.htm and scroll down to

How to Install Windows 2000 NetBEUI Under Windows XP

Thanks both, appreciate your prompt responses. In view of that, I've
changed my mind. I'm dropping NetBEUI and will now persist in trying
to use TCP/IP. May I ask you for some help on that please?

After hours vainly trying to get it working from the W98 shed PC, I've
just tried coming at it from another angle: using the Network Setup
Wizard on this XP house PC. But that failed too, with:
"Cannot Complete the Network Setup Wizard
Other computers cannot connect to the Internet through this computer.
In addition to its Internet connection, this computer must have a
connection to your network."

That baffles me completely! Surely that's what the Wizard is supposed
to *do*, i.e. connect the PC to the network? (After that, maybe I must
do the same on the W98, although that *is* displayed when I open
'Network Neighborhood' on the W98 desktop.)

As you'll have gathered, I'm lost. Despite a lot of studying, this
networking stuff remains a black art to me! All I want to achieve is
get two PCs to share a few files (as well as the existing wireless
router broadband connection). I feel so close, yet can't quite get
there!

Any practical help would be much appreciated please.

 

[DanS]

Any practical help would be much appreciated please.

Did you even Goolge for any help....

http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+windows+98+xp&start=0&ie=utf-8
&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial

(Watch for URL wrapping)

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Did you even Goolge for any help....

http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+windows+98+xp&start=0&ie=utf-8
&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial

(Watch for URL wrapping)

Well, yes, I did a lot (of Goolging)! But some of those links are new
and I'll follow up this morning.

One snag is that many seem above my skill-level. For example, I
*think* I've essentially tried the following suggestion, because of
the way TCP/IP is configured by default, but the terminology is
daunting to me:
"Suggest using dynamic IPs and getting IP addresses automatically from
the router's DHCP server. It should also provide the DNS info
automatically and you should be able to turn-off DNS in the TCP/IP
properties."

Another consequence of my inexperience with networking is that I'm
nervous about screwing something up on this XP PC. I have a sweetly
working broadband connection, courtesy the black magic of this
'router' and the card my son installed, and I imagine it might be easy
to lose it!

 

[Roberto]

After hours vainly trying to get it working from the W98 shed PC, I've
just tried coming at it from another angle: using the Network Setup
Wizard on this XP house PC. But that failed too, with:
"Cannot Complete the Network Setup Wizard
Other computers cannot connect to the Internet through this computer.
In addition to its Internet connection, this computer must have a
connection to your network."

That baffles me completely! Surely that's what the Wizard is supposed
to *do*, i.e. connect the PC to the network? (After that, maybe I must
do the same on the W98, although that *is* displayed when I open
'Network Neighborhood' on the W98 desktop.)

As you'll have gathered, I'm lost. Despite a lot of studying, this
networking stuff remains a black art to me! All I want to achieve is
get two PCs to share a few files (as well as the existing wireless
router broadband connection). I feel so close, yet can't quite get
there!

Any practical help would be much appreciated please.

Post back with some proper details of your setup
NICs ,Router, Switch, DHCP or Static IPs etc,etc, networking isn't a
"black art".
XP's netwiz realy makes life simple, so if you are experiencing
difficulties then there is likely something awry with your setup
/equipment.

rgds
Roberto

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Post back with some proper details of your setup
NICs ,Router, Switch, DHCP or Static IPs etc,etc, networking isn't a
"black art".
XP's netwiz realy makes life simple, so if you are experiencing
difficulties then there is likely something awry with your setup
/equipment.

Thanks Roberto. I'm not sure how much of the following is relevant,
but please tell me specifically what else you need.

A year or so ago, my son installed the router and plugged it into the
card in the XP. That is now shown in Device Manager|Network Adapters
as 'PC Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4)', and is
'working correctly'. He also installed the 'Netgear MA111 Wireless USB
Adapter' on the W98 PC, and as mentioned that is getting access OK to
the internet.

If I open My Network Places on the XP PC, and then Entire Network,
eventually I reach 'Mshome' (the name of my 'workgroup'). But trying
to then open that I get the message
"Mshome is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out
if you have access permissions.
The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available."

I checked the XP LAN Network Connection Details:
Property Value

Physical Address 00-04-5A-58-37-D9
IP Address 192.168.1.33
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained 29/06/2006 08:43:39
Lease Expires 02/07/2006 08:43:39
DNS Server 192.168.1.1
WINS Server

I checked My Computer|Properties|Computer name
Computer description = XP PC in house
Full name = TERRY
Workgroup = MSHOME

Under LAN|Properties|Configuration I have:
.. Client for Microsoft Networks
.. File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
.. QoS Packet Scheduler
.. Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

If I select TCP/IP and click Properties, it was set to
'Obtain an IP address automatically'
But now, based on reading this page found by googling
http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/xprouter98.htm
I have changed it to 'Use the following IP address':
IP address: 192 . 168 . 1 . 33
Subnet mask: 255 . 255 . 255 . 0
Default gateway: 192 . 168 . 1 . 1
And: 'Use the following DNS server addresses':
Preferred DNS server: 192 . 168 . 1 . 1
Alternate DNS server:

I then clicked Advanced and changed from the default to 'Enable
NetBIOS over TCP/IP'

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This may not be a black art to you, but I can assure you it is to me!

Does this help you to help me please?

 

[Roberto]

Thanks Roberto. I'm not sure how much of the following is relevant,
but please tell me specifically what else you need.

A year or so ago, my son installed the router and plugged it into the
card in the XP. That is now shown in Device Manager|Network Adapters
as 'PC Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4)', and is
'working correctly'. He also installed the 'Netgear MA111 Wireless USB
Adapter' on the W98 PC, and as mentioned that is getting access OK to
the internet.
If I open My Network Places on the XP PC, and then Entire Network,
eventually I reach 'Mshome' (the name of my 'workgroup'). But trying
to then open that I get the message
"Mshome is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out
if you have access permissions.
The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available."\

<snip>
OK questions for you to answer

1. Some machines connect to the router via cat5 ethernet ?, what OS do
they use.
2. Is the wired router connected to an ADSL modem
3. how is the router configured [DHCP , if so how many IPs does it
give out]
3.Some machines are connecting via WiFi ? what OS do they use
[XP/Win98/Win98SE all fully patched etc]
4. What is the nature of the WiFi connection [Acces Point / WiFi router]
5. How is the WiFi device configured - encryption /WEP/ SSID broadcast
6 Do you use a third party firewall on any [all] of your systems, if
not is the Windows firewall enabled

Lots of questions for you , but for anyone to give you any
meaningfull advice you need to give as many details about your LAN as
possible.

rgds
Roberto

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Sorted!

I thought I'd try one other thing, despite it obviously being a waste
of time. It worked!

A key question the Network Setup wizard asks at the outset is:
"Select the statement that best describes this computer:

* This computer connects directly to the Internet. The other
computers on my network connect to the Internet through this computer.

* This computer connects to the Internet through another computer on
my network or through a residential gateway.

* Other"

I had always chosen the first, which seemed obvious beyond question.
But choosing the second did the trick! So the wireless router is a
'residential gateway' I gather. Go figure...

I have yet to check out the shed W98, and set up the file sharing, but
am now very optimistic!

My thanks to all who replied.

 

[Roberto]

Sorted!

I thought I'd try one other thing, despite it obviously being a waste
of time. It worked!

A key question the Network Setup wizard asks at the outset is:
"Select the statement that best describes this computer:

* This computer connects directly to the Internet. The other
computers on my network connect to the Internet through this computer.

* This computer connects to the Internet through another computer on
my network or through a residential gateway.

* Other"

I had always chosen the first, which seemed obvious beyond question.
But choosing the second did the trick! So the wireless router is a
'residential gateway' I gather. Go figure...
My thanks to all who replied.

Terry, West Sussex, UK

A little bit of personal research helps waste time before
posting,questions - option No 1 relates to Internet Connection Sharing,
and it's obvious that in your situation machine No1 doesn't connect to
the internet directly does it ? it connects to a router [gateway /DHCP
server].

rgds
Roberto