Acronis True Image & USB 2 Drivers

[Jim Cladingboel]

I was most impressed by Anna's excellent guide to using Acronis
True Image, which directly relates to my current major problem.

I can only transfer files to my Seagate ST3160203U2-RK external
HDD at about 7 MB per second, but Anna transferred a 15.8 GB
to her external HDD in only 16.25 minutes which is about 16 MB
per second. How can I get a similar speed?

I have just upgraded (?) from ME to XP and despite having located what
appear to be XP's latest (2002) USB drivers I can't do better than 7 MB/sec
via any of the PC's 6 ports. Interestingly, XP will not accept the USB 2.00
driver on the motherboard CD.

I have installed a USB2 PCI Host card with a further 4 ports. The card
claims to handle upto 60 MB/second but - again - I cannot persuade XP to
accept the OrangeWare Corporation drivers on the card's CD.

If I am looking at the correct USB 2 Hub in DeviceManager, I now have a
VIA USB 2.00 enhanced driver for these 4 ports but they still only operate
at the same speed as the PC ports.
Seagate do not make USB drivers, but simply indicate that XP will supply
them.

When I install drivers from the supplied CDs, they are ignored. When I
direct XP to a floppy containing new drivers the O/S states :
"The Wizard could not find a better match for your hardware than currently
installed". Alternatively, "The location you specified does not contain any
device information files".

My PC has a 2.4 GB Celeron, 512 Mb RAM, ASUS P4VP-MX mobo with
VIA VT8751A North and VIA VT8235 South Bridge controllers.

I would very much appreciate any advice/guidance which will help to resolve
this problem.

 

[DL]

After this upgrade did you update your mobo chipset drivers, from the mobo
site?

 

[Anna]

I was most impressed by Anna's excellent guide to using Acronis
True Image, which directly relates to my current major problem.

I can only transfer files to my Seagate ST3160203U2-RK external
HDD at about 7 MB per second, but Anna transferred a 15.8 GB
to her external HDD in only 16.25 minutes which is about 16 MB
per second. How can I get a similar speed?

I have just upgraded (?) from ME to XP and despite having located what
appear to be XP's latest (2002) USB drivers I can't do better than 7
MB/sec
via any of the PC's 6 ports. Interestingly, XP will not accept the USB
2.00
driver on the motherboard CD.

I have installed a USB2 PCI Host card with a further 4 ports. The card
claims to handle upto 60 MB/second but - again - I cannot persuade XP to
accept the OrangeWare Corporation drivers on the card's CD.

If I am looking at the correct USB 2 Hub in DeviceManager, I now have a
VIA USB 2.00 enhanced driver for these 4 ports but they still only operate
at the same speed as the PC ports.
Seagate do not make USB drivers, but simply indicate that XP will supply
them.

When I install drivers from the supplied CDs, they are ignored. When I
direct XP to a floppy containing new drivers the O/S states :
"The Wizard could not find a better match for your hardware than currently
installed". Alternatively, "The location you specified does not contain
any
device information files".

My PC has a 2.4 GB Celeron, 512 Mb RAM, ASUS P4VP-MX mobo with
VIA VT8751A North and VIA VT8235 South Bridge controllers.

I would very much appreciate any advice/guidance which will help to
resolve
this problem.

Jim:
Judging from our experience it would seem that the Acronis program has an
unusually efficient mechanism re the compression & transferring of data as
it involves its disk cloning and disk imaging functions.

I do see my reference to an example of a disk image totaling 15.8 GB of data
being transferred in 16 min 15 sec as you reported and which works out to a
data transfer speed of something like a bit under 1 GB/min.

On another timing involving creating a disk image of 25 GB of data which
Acronis compressed to 21 GB, the data was copied over to a USB external HDD
(the installed HDD being a SATA-II device) in just under 18 minutes, which
would work out to a data transfer speed of a little under 1.2 GB/min.

On the other hand, where the Acronis program was not involved and we were
just dealing with straight data copying between an internal HDD and USB 2.0
devices, the data transfer rates were considerably different.

We recently ran some speed tests involving the copying data between an
internal HDD and some USB 2.0 devices using a 1 GB flash drive and a couple
of 6 GB & 8 GB minidrives (1" HDD). The "test" involved transferring 1 GB
of data (12 folders comprising 503 files)...

Flash drive
Copying from HDD to flash drive -- 200 MB/min
" " flash drive to HDD -- 250 MB/min

Minidrives
Copying from HDD to minidrive -- 430 MB/min
" " minidrive to HDD -- 500 MB/min

(Note the considerably faster data transfer speed using the minidrives as
compared with the flash drive. This seems consistent even when using flash
drives of other capacities)

Copying from HDD to USB external HDD - 1 min 28 sec (680 MB/min). I can't
recall whether the installed HDD in the USB enclosure was a PATA or SATA-II
HDD. We've found that there generally is superior performance using the
latter type of HDD when copying/moving data although it's not an enormous
difference.
Anna

 

[Patrick Keenan]

I was most impressed by Anna's excellent guide to using Acronis
True Image, which directly relates to my current major problem.

I can only transfer files to my Seagate ST3160203U2-RK external
HDD at about 7 MB per second, but Anna transferred a 15.8 GB
to her external HDD in only 16.25 minutes which is about 16 MB
per second. How can I get a similar speed?

I have just upgraded (?) from ME to XP and despite having located what
appear to be XP's latest (2002) USB drivers I can't do better than 7
MB/sec
via any of the PC's 6 ports. Interestingly, XP will not accept the USB
2.00
driver on the motherboard CD.

I have installed a USB2 PCI Host card with a further 4 ports. The card
claims to handle upto 60 MB/second but - again - I cannot persuade XP to
accept the OrangeWare Corporation drivers on the card's CD.

If I am looking at the correct USB 2 Hub in DeviceManager, I now have a
VIA USB 2.00 enhanced driver for these 4 ports but they still only operate
at the same speed as the PC ports.
Seagate do not make USB drivers, but simply indicate that XP will supply
them.

When I install drivers from the supplied CDs, they are ignored. When I
direct XP to a floppy containing new drivers the O/S states :
"The Wizard could not find a better match for your hardware than currently
installed". Alternatively, "The location you specified does not contain
any
device information files".

My PC has a 2.4 GB Celeron, 512 Mb RAM, ASUS P4VP-MX mobo with
VIA VT8751A North and VIA VT8235 South Bridge controllers.

I would very much appreciate any advice/guidance which will help to
resolve
this problem.

Does your XP install have the current service pack? Early releases of XP
did not support USB2 speeds.

HTH
-pk

 

[Jim Cladingboel]

Yes, but again XP would not accept the updated VIA USB2 driver. This has me
absolutely at a loss, but is consistent with every update I have tried over
the past three weeks or so.

Jim.

 

[Jim Cladingboel]

Jim:
Judging from our experience it would seem that the Acronis program has an
unusually efficient mechanism re the compression & transferring of data as
it involves its disk cloning and disk imaging functions.

I do see my reference to an example of a disk image totaling 15.8 GB of
data being transferred in 16 min 15 sec as you reported and which works
out to a data transfer speed of something like a bit under 1 GB/min.

On another timing involving creating a disk image of 25 GB of data which
Acronis compressed to 21 GB, the data was copied over to a USB external
HDD (the installed HDD being a SATA-II device) in just under 18 minutes,
which would work out to a data transfer speed of a little under 1.2
GB/min.

On the other hand, where the Acronis program was not involved and we were
just dealing with straight data copying between an internal HDD and USB
2.0 devices, the data transfer rates were considerably different.

We recently ran some speed tests involving the copying data between an
internal HDD and some USB 2.0 devices using a 1 GB flash drive and a
couple of 6 GB & 8 GB minidrives (1" HDD). The "test" involved
transferring 1 GB of data (12 folders comprising 503 files)...

Flash drive
Copying from HDD to flash drive -- 200 MB/min
" " flash drive to HDD -- 250 MB/min

Minidrives
Copying from HDD to minidrive -- 430 MB/min
" " minidrive to HDD -- 500 MB/min

(Note the considerably faster data transfer speed using the minidrives as
compared with the flash drive. This seems consistent even when using flash
drives of other capacities)

Copying from HDD to USB external HDD - 1 min 28 sec (680 MB/min). I can't
recall whether the installed HDD in the USB enclosure was a PATA or
SATA-II HDD. We've found that there generally is superior performance
using the latter type of HDD when copying/moving data although it's not an
enormous difference.
Anna

Anna, very many thanks for that. I am hoping to use Acronis myself shortly,
but need to get this USB/transfer rate business settled first.
7MB/second is just not good enough.
Is it possible for you to let me know which drivers XP has allocated to you?
Unless, that is, you have a PCI card.

Jim.

 

[Jim Cladingboel]

Does your XP install have the current service pack? Early releases of XP
did not support USB2 speeds.

HTH
-pk

Yes. I installed using a 'WinXP with SP2 CD'. Since then I have updated
regularly from MS and have everything recommended - except IE7.

Jim.