Access to folder denied!!

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Guest

I have Administrator Rights to our home computer, but recently I noticed that
I could notice access my sons folder. I tried to open the folder and and it
basically said access denied. All of the users on my computer are have
"Limited Access" and have no administrative rights. How is this folder being
locked and why can' t the Administrator obtain access to the folder?
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Big said:
I have Administrator Rights to our home computer, but recently I
noticed that I could notice access my sons folder. I tried to open
the folder and and it basically said access denied. All of the
users on my computer are have "Limited Access" and have no
administrative rights. How is this folder being locked and why
can' t the Administrator obtain access to the folder?

Just because you have administrative rights does not automatically mean 'all
doors and secrets will be revealed to you without effort on your part'...
;-)

Any user on any system can change the file/folder permissions in such a way
that other users - including administrators - do not have access to them.
However - *as* the system administrator you *can* take ownership of said
files/folders at your whim. This does EXACTLY what it says it does - TAKES
ownership from whomever had it before and grants it to your account -
meaning unless you give rights back to the other user - it may be noticed
they no longer can do things they could do before with their files/folders.
 
K

kimiraikkonen

Just because you have administrative rights does not automatically mean 'all
doors and secrets will be revealed to you without effort on your part'...
;-)

Any user on any system can change the file/folder permissions in such a way
that other users - including administrators - do not have access to them.
However - *as* the system administrator you *can* take ownership of said
files/folders at your whim. This does EXACTLY what it says it does - TAKES
ownership from whomever had it before and grants it to your account -
meaning unless you give rights back to the other user - it may be noticed
they no longer can do things they could do before with their files/folders.

I'm admin of my XP pro but under recovery console(bootable XP CD)
whenever i remove or copy files it says "access denied". WHY?
 
S

SBS Rocker

Because your son is smarter than you and modified the NTFS folder
permissions. Most likely removed you and the administrator account from
accessing.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

kimiraikkonen said:
I'm admin of my XP pro but under recovery console(bootable XP CD)
whenever i remove or copy files it says "access denied". WHY?

Because those files/folders are ones that the administrator *may not* have
access to.

How to Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421

Read *carefully* - do not just skim the page and start following steps.
There is important information there dependent on the version of Windows XP
 
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kimiraikkonen

Because those files/folders are ones that the administrator *may not* have
access to.

How to Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421

Read *carefully* - do not just skim the page and start following steps.
There is important information there dependent on the version of Windows XP

I've read carefully, i'm admin totally but there's no "security" tab
under properties of folder. WhY?
 
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kimiraikkonen

Yes. NTFS. how is it differs? PS: I haven't got son.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My personal D: partition is NTFS and has no "security" tab. Only has
"general", "sharing", "customize". Under recovery console i enter
admin password, i enter prompt with no problem. The problem starts
from now on. For example if i prompt "del something" ("someting"
refers to a kind of folder") i get "access denied". But while under
normal XP operating with Windows explorer there is no problem about
accessing.
 
J

jorgen

kimiraikkonen said:
My personal D: partition is NTFS and has no "security" tab. Only has
"general", "sharing", "customize". Under recovery console i enter
admin password, i enter prompt with no problem. The problem starts
from now on. For example if i prompt "del something" ("someting"
refers to a kind of folder") i get "access denied". But while under
normal XP operating with Windows explorer there is no problem about
accessing.

Try this:
http://www.petri.co.il/recovery_console_access_to_other_partitions.htm

About the missing security tab. This is only visible when simple file
sharing is disabled (xp pro). Xp home users needs to boot into safe mode
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Big said:
I have Administrator Rights to our home computer, but recently I noticed that
I could notice access my sons folder. I tried to open the folder and and it
basically said access denied. All of the users on my computer are have
"Limited Access" and have no administrative rights. How is this folder being
locked and why can' t the Administrator obtain access to the folder?


Because, as a sort of "Check and Balance," even an administrator cannot
access another user's private files without first taking ownership of
those files and granting himself access. This naturally locks out the
original user, alerting him that someone has accessed his private files.


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Bruce Chambers

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N

Nightowl

kimiraikkonen said:
My personal D: partition is NTFS and has no "security" tab. Only has
"general", "sharing", "customize". Under recovery console i enter
admin password, i enter prompt with no problem. The problem starts
from now on. For example if i prompt "del something" ("someting"
refers to a kind of folder") i get "access denied". But while under
normal XP operating with Windows explorer there is no problem about
accessing.

Hi kimiraikkonen

It's because the Recovery Console will only let you access the root
folder (C:\ probably), the folder Windows is in (probably C:\Windows)
and its sub-folders, the Cmdcons folder and removable media drives.

I'm puzzled as to why you'd want to use it to delete files?
 
K

kimiraikkonen

Hi kimiraikkonen

It's because the Recovery Console will only let you access the root
folder (C:\ probably), the folder Windows is in (probably C:\Windows)
and its sub-folders, the Cmdcons folder and removable media drives.

I'm puzzled as to why you'd want to use it to delete files?

H Nightow,
Thanks it's good to be confirmed as i've seen what you said in an MS
article. The reason i want to delete my personal files is to open some
space or delete some junky files what i cannot delete under Windows
due to file sharing or interfering like that.
 
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Nightowl

Hello again

I think it'd be much easier to try to delete them from a Command window.
If you get an error message that access is denied or the file is in use,
try this way:

Open a Command window.
Open Task Manager. In its Processes tab, highlight explorer.exe and
click on End Process. Your desktop and taskbar will disappear. *Leave
Task Manager open* while you return to the Command window.

Now delete the files and folders you want to remove. When you've
finished, go back to Task Manager. Click on the Applications tab and
then the New Task button and in the box that pops up type explorer.exe
and click OK.

Hope this helps. If it doesn't work, please let us know, as there are a
few other tricks to try on files that won't delete.
 

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