Access Runtime

[Guest]

To all,

What is the best way to obtain the ability to install the Access runtime on
client PC's that DO NOT have Access installed?

The version of InstallShield Express I have claims to be able to do this,
but I have never tried it and have no idea as to its reliability.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Bill T.

 

[Douglas J. Steele]

The products from SageKey seem to be highly recommended
http://www.sagekey.com

You do realize, I hope, that depending on what version of Access you're
using, you must purchase either the Office Developer Edition or Visual
Studio Tools for Office in order to be able to legally redistribute the
runtime: simply purchasing a 3rd party product does not give you the license
for the runtime.

 

[Guest]

Doug,

Thanks. Yes, I am aware of the licensing requirements.

Of the 2 products you mentioned - Office Developer Ed and Visual Studio
Tools - which has the better runtime-distribution program (as an alternative
to the SageKey product)?

Bill T.

 

[Douglas J. Steele]

To be honest, I don't have experience with either (I have the luxury of
working in a shop where everyone has Access on their desktop)

You might try soliciting opinions in
microsoft.public.access.developers.toolkitode or
microsoft.public.access.devtoolkits. I realize you're using the web
interface to these newsgroups, so those groups may not be available. If you
can't get them through the web interface and you're unwilling (or unable,
due to ports being blocked) to use a proper newsgroup reader, you could try
going through Google Groups.

 

[Ron Hinds]

I use InstallShield to distribute Access with the Runtime. The Runtime
script they provide seems to work really well - it even creates a folder
called "Access xx Runtime" (where xx is the version e.g. 97, 00, etc.) under
Program Files that it puts all of the files in - thus alleviating the
problems created by the P&D Wizard, which always wants to put the Runtime in
the same folder the full version goes in. This creates real problems if the
end-user has a different version of Access than the Runtime already
installed - it will overwrite msaccess.exe! Using InstallShield no such
problem - you just need to remember to put the full path to the runtime
executable in your shortcut to your application.

 

[Tony Toews]

I use InstallShield to distribute Access with the Runtime. The Runtime
script they provide seems to work really well - it even creates a folder
called "Access xx Runtime" (where xx is the version e.g. 97, 00, etc.) under
Program Files that it puts all of the files in - thus alleviating the
problems created by the P&D Wizard, which always wants to put the Runtime in
the same folder the full version goes in. This creates real problems if the
end-user has a different version of Access than the Runtime already
installed - it will overwrite msaccess.exe! Using InstallShield no such
problem - you just need to remember to put the full path to the runtime
executable in your shortcut to your application.

Ah, very interesting. Does the InstallShield runtime also take over
the MDB extension like the P&D Wizard does?

What version of InstallShield do you have? Any other comments or tips
and suggestions?

I ask because you are the first poster I've seen that has mentioned
successfully using InstallShield.

Tony
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[Ron Hinds]

Oops, I'm an idiot, we are using Wise InstallBuilder, *not* InstallShield.
But I'll answer your questions, anyway ;-)

Ah, very interesting. Does the InstallShield runtime also take over
the MDB extension like the P&D Wizard does?

No it does not. You have to put the path to the runtime executable in your
application's shortcut.

What version of InstallShield do you have? Any other comments or tips
and suggestions?

It's the Wise InstallBuilder v.8.14.

 

[dbahooker]

just convince the powers to be to purchase access for each desktop

excel is a disease; and the only way to combat it is to teach your
worthless beancounters how to write queries

 

[Tony Toews]

Oops, I'm an idiot, we are using Wise InstallBuilder, *not* InstallShield.
But I'll answer your questions, anyway ;-)

No it does not.

Fabulous. That's the single biggest problem with the ODE/MOD.

You have to put the path to the runtime executable in your
application's shortcut.
Excellent.


It's the Wise InstallBuilder v.8.14.

According to http://www.wise.com/wis_faqs.asp?bhcp=1 InstallBuilder is
now known as Wise Installation System - Standard Edition. According
to
http://www.wise.com/ordercenter/(scqdrjrns4fj1z55mssftzm0)/OrderCenter_Items.aspx?category_id=6
that's now in Version 6 and is available for $449.

Does that make sense to you?

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm