887742 update/patch/hotfix

[Guest]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887742 i'v just installed this update from
window update yesterday because it was on the critical update and when i did
i had minor issue were i have to activate my norton internet security 2005.
anyone had this issue?

 

[Plato]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887742 i'v just installed this update from
window update yesterday because it was on the critical update and when i did
i had minor issue were i have to activate my norton internet security 2005.
anyone had this issue?

Why is it an issue? You chose to update your OS. Now deal with the other
updates.

 

[Dan]

Symantec (Norton) software is terrible. Drop it and go with E-Trust CA
EZARMOR. It is vastly superior although support is still not great it is
better than Symantec junk and it does not gunk up your registry as well as
even automatically unistalling registry keys on removal. Try and Get all
that from Symantec and I bet you cannot because I know. LOL!!

: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887742 i'v just installed this update from
: window update yesterday because it was on the critical update and when i
did
: i had minor issue were i have to activate my norton internet security 2005.
: anyone had this issue?

 

[Milhouse Van Houten]

Why is it an issue? You chose to update your OS. Now deal with the other
updates.

I think it's obvious why it's an issue (if true): because it's likely that
it's an unintended effect. Do you seriously think that MS intended for an
update that's being pushed out to millions of users to prompt the
re-activation of another vendor's product?

 

[Plato]

I think it's obvious why it's an issue (if true): because it's likely that
it's an unintended effect. Do you seriously think that MS intended for an
update that's being pushed out to millions of users to prompt the
re-activation of another vendor's product?

Please correct me if I'm mistaken. But with MS now in the firewall
business, and now going into the anti-spyware business, why should they
spend the money to assure that their competitors apps will work
perfectly?

 

[kurttrail]

Please correct me if I'm mistaken. But with MS now in the firewall
business, and now going into the anti-spyware business, why should
they spend the money to assure that their competitors apps will work
perfectly?

Because such an action, if true, could get them in trouble with
Anti-Trust regulators.

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[Dan]

Kurt help me show people that security in XP PRO. is a joke. XP PRO. is
based upon NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) source code that is based upon a false MS-DOS
(Microsoft Disk Operating System) mode. Until Microsoft has a brand new
maintenance operating system XP PRO. can be hacked because its foundation is
built upon sand. At least 98SE has true MS-DOS as its source as compared to
a DOS SHELL within an emulated environment via a command.com (cmd.com)
prompt. Although, Microsoft did remove some DOS commands in 98SE (98 Second
Edition) at least it still has a true DOS mode. Microsoft was lazy and
wanted to save time, money and effort. According to Microsoft history, which
I research computer technicans at Microsoft were against the source code of
NT (New Technology) at the beginning. The Microsoft Technicans petitioned
and called it the "Not There" code because its foundation was built upon the
maintenance operating system of DOS and it was not even REAL!!! What the
F___ I am so pissed that Microsoft did this and the guys in charge forced the
little people to do it their way or the highway. This happens all the time
at the home level -- corporate knows what is best even though they do not.
It is like saying the federal government always knows what is best when
sometimes the states or cities know what is best.
Hopefully, Google, Apple, Linux, Unix, Mozilla and all open-source
products will force Microsoft to make LONGHORN a new and fresh operating
system with a new maintenance operating system. Microsoft has already
dropped a new and promising technology in LongHorn because of time, effort
and expense. However, Microsoft does have good technical support. Micrsoft
did release a Windows Security Update CD for 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP for
free. Microsoft lied by saying that they extended the critical support of
98, 98SE and XP PRO. The current expiration date of 98, 98SE and ME is 30
June 2006. Everyone knows 98 is too obsolete since it does not support USB
2.0 through third parties, has weaker driver managment, lacks WMP 9, etc.
Everyone knows the ME is a joke that was forced upon users to help them
upgrade to NT (2000, XPPRO, XPHOME). I have heard that Microsoft took away
the forward/backward use of buttons with the latest Intellipoint driver for
98SE but I do not know if this is true. It is a RUMOR. The official
Microsoft public relations reason for more support was that the 3rd world
countries needed more time to update. Sure, that could have been one factor
but the primary reason was that people who are in the know understand that
98SE can be made as secure if not more secure than XP PRO. The reason for
this is that the foundation of XP PRO is weak wheras 98SE is built upon the
ROCK. Sure, NTFS is more secure than FAT32 but at the core source code
level, XP PRO which becomes NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) when you break it down and
thus allows true and experienced hackers to get into corporate and home users
systems because of the weak false emulated shell of MSDOS that exists within
XP PRO even though a lot of people have no clue what I am talking about I am
in the know.
I work in a corporate environment, have used computers since I was 7, am
now almost 30, live in the SouthWest U.S.A, used an IBM PCjr as my first
computer and started training on BASIC making simple programs that played
music and flashed different colors on the screen, I have worked for Davis
Monthan, I currently am a Target Team Member Specialist in charge of computer
security and I have learned a lot from the Internet, Microsoft sites and
articles, books, computer courses, etc. just in case anyone doubts me. I am
currently petitioning Microsoft to change their ways but I need your
assistance and get things done attitude as well. Please help me, help
others. Have a great day!!! GodSpeed
One final note, IBM had the ability to use the keyboard through a corded
connection or through a Cordless Keyboard through the use of IBM
(International Business Machine) Hardware as compared to Microsoft software.
Microsoft could make their cordless keyboards work for 98SE but they only
have them for XP and 2000 because they are trying to force everyone unto one
line of source code that was flawed at the beginning and now a Chinese
Company wants to buy IBM. What the F___. What is the world coming to. I
ask the question has George Orwell's vision of 1984 arrived 21 years later in
2005. Please, Please, Please ----- I am begging you. I need you to get on
the telephone, write letters and do whatever it takes to make sure the United
States does not sell out to the Communist Nation of China. Bye for now and I
await all replies!!!

: Plato wrote:
: > Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
: >>
: >>> Why is it an issue? You chose to update your OS. Now deal with the
: >>> other updates.
: >>
: >> I think it's obvious why it's an issue (if true): because it's
: >> likely that it's an unintended effect. Do you seriously think that
: >> MS intended for an update that's being pushed out to millions of
: >> users to prompt the re-activation of another vendor's product?
: >
: > Please correct me if I'm mistaken. But with MS now in the firewall
: > business, and now going into the anti-spyware business, why should
: > they spend the money to assure that their competitors apps will work
: > perfectly?
:
: Because such an action, if true, could get them in trouble with
: Anti-Trust regulators.
:
: --
: Peace!
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: http://microscum.com/mscommunity
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: "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
:
:

 

[Tim Slattery]

Kurt help me show people that security in XP PRO. is a joke. XP PRO. is
based upon NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) source code that is based upon a false MS-DOS
(Microsoft Disk Operating System) mode.

Bogus. XP descends from NT, which is *not* based on DOS. There is no
DOS in XP.

 

[R. McCarty]

From a old MS - Article:
a.. 1988: Microsoft formed what would become the development team for
Windows NT, with the goal of developing a thoroughly modern, fully 32-bit,
robust, multipurpose operating system.

 

[kurttrail]

Bogus. XP descends from NT, which is *not* based on DOS. There is no
DOS in XP.

Bogus. He wasn't saying that there was. He is saying that NT is built
on a DOS-emulator, or "false MS-DOS."

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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[kurttrail]

Kurt help me show people that security in XP PRO. is a joke. XP
PRO. is based upon NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) source code that is based upon
a false MS-DOS (Microsoft Disk Operating System) mode. Until
Microsoft has a brand new maintenance operating system XP PRO. can be
hacked because its foundation is built upon sand. At least 98SE has
true MS-DOS as its source as compared to a DOS SHELL within an
emulated environment via a command.com (cmd.com) prompt. Although,
Microsoft did remove some DOS commands in 98SE (98 Second Edition) at
least it still has a true DOS mode. Microsoft was lazy and wanted to
save time, money and effort. According to Microsoft history, which I
research computer technicans at Microsoft were against the source
code of NT (New Technology) at the beginning. The Microsoft
Technicans petitioned and called it the "Not There" code because its
foundation was built upon the maintenance operating system of DOS and
it was not even REAL!!! What the F___ I am so pissed that Microsoft
did this and the guys in charge forced the little people to do it
their way or the highway. This happens all the time at the home
level -- corporate knows what is best even though they do not. It is
like saying the federal government always knows what is best when
sometimes the states or cities know what is best. Hopefully, Google,
Apple, Linux, Unix, Mozilla and all open-source
products will force Microsoft to make LONGHORN a new and fresh
operating system with a new maintenance operating system. Microsoft
has already dropped a new and promising technology in LongHorn
because of time, effort and expense. However, Microsoft does have
good technical support. Micrsoft did release a Windows Security
Update CD for 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP for free. Microsoft lied by
saying that they extended the critical support of 98, 98SE and XP
PRO. The current expiration date of 98, 98SE and ME is 30 June 2006.
Everyone knows 98 is too obsolete since it does not support USB
2.0 through third parties, has weaker driver managment, lacks WMP 9,
etc. Everyone knows the ME is a joke that was forced upon users to
help them upgrade to NT (2000, XPPRO, XPHOME). I have heard that
Microsoft took away the forward/backward use of buttons with the
latest Intellipoint driver for 98SE but I do not know if this is
true. It is a RUMOR. The official Microsoft public relations reason
for more support was that the 3rd world countries needed more time to
update. Sure, that could have been one factor but the primary reason
was that people who are in the know understand that 98SE can be made
as secure if not more secure than XP PRO. The reason for this is
that the foundation of XP PRO is weak wheras 98SE is built upon the
ROCK. Sure, NTFS is more secure than FAT32 but at the core source
code level, XP PRO which becomes NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) when you break
it down and thus allows true and experienced hackers to get into
corporate and home users systems because of the weak false emulated
shell of MSDOS that exists within XP PRO even though a lot of people
have no clue what I am talking about I am in the know. I work in a
corporate environment, have used computers since I was 7, am
now almost 30, live in the SouthWest U.S.A, used an IBM PCjr as my
first computer and started training on BASIC making simple programs
that played music and flashed different colors on the screen, I have
worked for Davis Monthan, I currently am a Target Team Member
Specialist in charge of computer security and I have learned a lot
from the Internet, Microsoft sites and articles, books, computer
courses, etc. just in case anyone doubts me. I am currently
petitioning Microsoft to change their ways but I need your assistance
and get things done attitude as well. Please help me, help others.
Have a great day!!! GodSpeed One final note, IBM had the ability
to use the keyboard through a corded connection or through a Cordless
Keyboard through the use of IBM (International Business Machine)
Hardware as compared to Microsoft software. Microsoft could make
their cordless keyboards work for 98SE but they only have them for XP
and 2000 because they are trying to force everyone unto one line of
source code that was flawed at the beginning and now a Chinese
Company wants to buy IBM. What the F___. What is the world coming
to. I ask the question has George Orwell's vision of 1984 arrived 21
years later in 2005. Please, Please, Please ----- I am begging you.
I need you to get on the telephone, write letters and do whatever it
takes to make sure the United States does not sell out to the
Communist Nation of China. Bye for now and I await all replies!!!

Support for 98 is doomed, not just because of MS, but because of new
non-MS hardware technologies. PCI-Express mobo's and components won't
run on 9x.

As for the rest, MS rarely changes their ways based on complaints from
individuals, but will listen tend to listen when a whole sector of their
business customers start complaining. NT, as is, has been accepted by
the business community since NT4, and I doubt very much that you'll get
too much support form there after all this time.

From the sounds of Longhorn, with all the things have cut from it's
development, it sounds it's gonna be more of a XP Second Edition, (or as
the rumor mill has it named eXPedition) and doesn't sound like it is
much of a compelling upgrade to me. I suspect that the Business
Coummunity will be even slower to switch to Longhorn, than they are
taking to upgrade to XP.

MS's biggest security blackhole is it's stranglehold on the PC OS
market, with it having such a gravitation pull that anything that comes
close, can't help but be sucked in. The best way, at this point, to get
MS to change there way of thinking is to start helping its competition.
Working with Open Source to get to Linux as a fully consumer-friendly
OS. When MS's flagship OS bottom line starts to take a hit from real
competition, then MS will start to become more responsive to change.

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[André Gulliksen]

XP
PRO. is based upon NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) source code that is based upon
a false MS-DOS (Microsoft Disk Operating System) mode. Until
Microsoft has a brand new maintenance operating system XP PRO. can be
hacked because its foundation is built upon sand. At least 98SE has
true MS-DOS as its source as compared to a DOS SHELL within an
emulated environment via a command.com (cmd.com) prompt.

BS on top of BS only adds up to more BS.

XP Pro is _not_ built upon a "false MS-DOS". It is built upon a kernel that
was written from scratch separately from MS-DOS. command.com (NOT cmd.com,
or even cmd.exe) is thrown in for legacy support, but by no means is it the
base of the operating system. Rather, it's an application being run within
the OS. Big difference.

As for Windows 98, that is only a 32 bit patch for a 16 bit GUI running on
top of an 8 bit operating system designed for a 4 bit hardware architecture
by a 2 bit company who cannot withstand 1 bit of competition.

And for anyone who wants a maintenance mode for XP: http://www.ubcd4win.com/

 

[Plato]

the rumor mill has it named eXPedition) and doesn't sound like it is

Like the Ford? That puppy has a big appetite for black gold.

 

[Dan]

Thanks Kurt!

: Tim Slattery wrote:
: >
: >> Kurt help me show people that security in XP PRO. is a joke. XP
: >> PRO. is based upon NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) source code that is based
: >> upon a false MS-DOS (Microsoft Disk Operating System) mode.
: >
: > Bogus. XP descends from NT, which is *not* based on DOS. There is no
: > DOS in XP.
:
: Bogus. He wasn't saying that there was. He is saying that NT is built
: on a DOS-emulator, or "false MS-DOS."
:
: --
: Peace!
: Kurt
: Self-anointed Moderator
: microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
: http://microscum.com/mscommunity
: "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
: "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
:
:

 

[Dan]

Thanks Kurt. I agree with your assesment. Have a great night and thanks for
supporting me when others shun me.

: Dan wrote:
: > Kurt help me show people that security in XP PRO. is a joke. XP
: > PRO. is based upon NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) source code that is based upon
: > a false MS-DOS (Microsoft Disk Operating System) mode. Until
: > Microsoft has a brand new maintenance operating system XP PRO. can be
: > hacked because its foundation is built upon sand. At least 98SE has
: > true MS-DOS as its source as compared to a DOS SHELL within an
: > emulated environment via a command.com (cmd.com) prompt. Although,
: > Microsoft did remove some DOS commands in 98SE (98 Second Edition) at
: > least it still has a true DOS mode. Microsoft was lazy and wanted to
: > save time, money and effort. According to Microsoft history, which I
: > research computer technicans at Microsoft were against the source
: > code of NT (New Technology) at the beginning. The Microsoft
: > Technicans petitioned and called it the "Not There" code because its
: > foundation was built upon the maintenance operating system of DOS and
: > it was not even REAL!!! What the F___ I am so pissed that Microsoft
: > did this and the guys in charge forced the little people to do it
: > their way or the highway. This happens all the time at the home
: > level -- corporate knows what is best even though they do not. It is
: > like saying the federal government always knows what is best when
: > sometimes the states or cities know what is best. Hopefully, Google,
: > Apple, Linux, Unix, Mozilla and all open-source
: > products will force Microsoft to make LONGHORN a new and fresh
: > operating system with a new maintenance operating system. Microsoft
: > has already dropped a new and promising technology in LongHorn
: > because of time, effort and expense. However, Microsoft does have
: > good technical support. Micrsoft did release a Windows Security
: > Update CD for 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP for free. Microsoft lied by
: > saying that they extended the critical support of 98, 98SE and XP
: > PRO. The current expiration date of 98, 98SE and ME is 30 June 2006.
: > Everyone knows 98 is too obsolete since it does not support USB
: > 2.0 through third parties, has weaker driver managment, lacks WMP 9,
: > etc. Everyone knows the ME is a joke that was forced upon users to
: > help them upgrade to NT (2000, XPPRO, XPHOME). I have heard that
: > Microsoft took away the forward/backward use of buttons with the
: > latest Intellipoint driver for 98SE but I do not know if this is
: > true. It is a RUMOR. The official Microsoft public relations reason
: > for more support was that the 3rd world countries needed more time to
: > update. Sure, that could have been one factor but the primary reason
: > was that people who are in the know understand that 98SE can be made
: > as secure if not more secure than XP PRO. The reason for this is
: > that the foundation of XP PRO is weak wheras 98SE is built upon the
: > ROCK. Sure, NTFS is more secure than FAT32 but at the core source
: > code level, XP PRO which becomes NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) when you break
: > it down and thus allows true and experienced hackers to get into
: > corporate and home users systems because of the weak false emulated
: > shell of MSDOS that exists within XP PRO even though a lot of people
: > have no clue what I am talking about I am in the know. I work in a
: > corporate environment, have used computers since I was 7, am
: > now almost 30, live in the SouthWest U.S.A, used an IBM PCjr as my
: > first computer and started training on BASIC making simple programs
: > that played music and flashed different colors on the screen, I have
: > worked for Davis Monthan, I currently am a Target Team Member
: > Specialist in charge of computer security and I have learned a lot
: > from the Internet, Microsoft sites and articles, books, computer
: > courses, etc. just in case anyone doubts me. I am currently
: > petitioning Microsoft to change their ways but I need your assistance
: > and get things done attitude as well. Please help me, help others.
: > Have a great day!!! GodSpeed One final note, IBM had the ability
: > to use the keyboard through a corded connection or through a Cordless
: > Keyboard through the use of IBM (International Business Machine)
: > Hardware as compared to Microsoft software. Microsoft could make
: > their cordless keyboards work for 98SE but they only have them for XP
: > and 2000 because they are trying to force everyone unto one line of
: > source code that was flawed at the beginning and now a Chinese
: > Company wants to buy IBM. What the F___. What is the world coming
: > to. I ask the question has George Orwell's vision of 1984 arrived 21
: > years later in 2005. Please, Please, Please ----- I am begging you.
: > I need you to get on the telephone, write letters and do whatever it
: > takes to make sure the United States does not sell out to the
: > Communist Nation of China. Bye for now and I await all replies!!!
: >
:
: Support for 98 is doomed, not just because of MS, but because of new
: non-MS hardware technologies. PCI-Express mobo's and components won't
: run on 9x.
:
: As for the rest, MS rarely changes their ways based on complaints from
: individuals, but will listen tend to listen when a whole sector of their
: business customers start complaining. NT, as is, has been accepted by
: the business community since NT4, and I doubt very much that you'll get
: too much support form there after all this time.
:
: From the sounds of Longhorn, with all the things have cut from it's
: development, it sounds it's gonna be more of a XP Second Edition, (or as
: the rumor mill has it named eXPedition) and doesn't sound like it is
: much of a compelling upgrade to me. I suspect that the Business
: Coummunity will be even slower to switch to Longhorn, than they are
: taking to upgrade to XP.
:
: MS's biggest security blackhole is it's stranglehold on the PC OS
: market, with it having such a gravitation pull that anything that comes
: close, can't help but be sucked in. The best way, at this point, to get
: MS to change there way of thinking is to start helping its competition.
: Working with Open Source to get to Linux as a fully consumer-friendly
: OS. When MS's flagship OS bottom line starts to take a hit from real
: competition, then MS will start to become more responsive to change.
:
: --
: Peace!
: Kurt
: Self-anointed Moderator
: microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
: http://microscum.com/mscommunity
: "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
: "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
:
:

 

[Dan]

Thanks for your opinion. Do you think this legacy mode makes XP PRO. a lot
more vulnerable to attacks from hackers. XP PRO. is not secure by a long
shot and BlueTooth is super simple to hack if you have the tools. LOL!!
<smile> <grin> It is a good thing that I am not a hacker or a lot of people
would have a lot more trouble on their hands and I mean it.

: Dan wrote:
: > XP
: > PRO. is based upon NT (NEW TECHNOLOGY) source code that is based upon
: > a false MS-DOS (Microsoft Disk Operating System) mode. Until
: > Microsoft has a brand new maintenance operating system XP PRO. can be
: > hacked because its foundation is built upon sand. At least 98SE has
: > true MS-DOS as its source as compared to a DOS SHELL within an
: > emulated environment via a command.com (cmd.com) prompt.
:
: BS on top of BS only adds up to more BS.
:
: XP Pro is _not_ built upon a "false MS-DOS". It is built upon a kernel that
: was written from scratch separately from MS-DOS. command.com (NOT cmd.com,
: or even cmd.exe) is thrown in for legacy support, but by no means is it the
: base of the operating system. Rather, it's an application being run within
: the OS. Big difference.
:
: As for Windows 98, that is only a 32 bit patch for a 16 bit GUI running on
: top of an 8 bit operating system designed for a 4 bit hardware architecture
: by a 2 bit company who cannot withstand 1 bit of competition.
:
: And for anyone who wants a maintenance mode for XP:
http://www.ubcd4win.com/
:
:

 

[Tim Slattery]

Bogus. He wasn't saying that there was. He is saying that NT is built
on a DOS-emulator, or "false MS-DOS."

Which is equally bogus.

 

[kurttrail]

Which is equally bogus.

Yeah, NT really is built on a kernel with no command line structure at
all. The DOS emulation was attached as an afterthought!

Dan has a real point about NT not really having a true maintenance OS
that it is built on. Just reading this group, the most common answer is
to do a repair install as a fix all.

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[André Gulliksen]

Yeah, NT really is built on a kernel with no command line structure at
all. The DOS emulation was attached as an afterthought!

Dan has a real point about NT not really having a true maintenance OS
that it is built on.

What is the problem? Is the command line really that necessary for
maintenance? If you are sore about not being able to fit a complete startup
environment onto a 1.44 MB floppy like in the old days, then too bad. But
there are several alternatives for doing maintenance work on a corrupt XP
installation apart from running a repair installation (or even the recovery
console) from the installation CD. The reason the repair installation is
suggested so often in here is most likely because it is a more or less
automated routine, it may work and most people these days wouldn't have a
clue about what to do if they found themselves in a command line environment
such as the recovery console.

 

[kurttrail]

What is the problem?

That trying to repair an installation has been dumbed down.

Is the command line really that necessary for
maintenance?

It definitely couldn't hurt.

If you are sore about not being able to fit a complete
startup environment onto a 1.44 MB floppy like in the old days, then
too bad.

LOL! Like a floppy disk is the only removable bootable storage media!

But there are several alternatives for doing maintenance
work on a corrupt XP installation apart from running a repair
installation (or even the recovery console) from the installation CD.
The reason the repair installation is suggested so often in here is
most likely because it is a more or less automated routine, it may
work and most people these days wouldn't have a clue about what to do
if they found themselves in a command line environment such as the
recovery console.

It is the dumbing down of the OS to the lowest common denominator.

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