24 inch cables

[Daniel Prince]

I plan to get a DVD writer early next year. When I do, I will need a 24
inch, 80 wire, cable to connect it. Where can I get a quality cable at
a reasonable price?

Is it better to get a flat cable or a round cable? If the flat cables
are better, would a good quality round cable be good enough?

Do DVD writers (I will probably get the LG multi format drive) use error
correction/detection firmware so that they can compensate for marginal
cables? Thank you in advance for all replies.

 

[Rod Speed]

I plan to get a DVD writer early next year. When I
do, I will need a 24 inch, 80 wire, cable to connect it.

That flouts the standard which only allows 18 inches.

Where can I get a quality cable at a reasonable price?

Is it better to get a flat cable or a round cable?

Flat, round cables flout the standard too.

If the flat cables are better, would a good
quality round cable be good enough?

It may work.

Do DVD writers (I will probably get the LG multi format
drive) use error correction/detection firmware so that
they can compensate for marginal cables?

Thats part of the higher UDMA standard.

the only way I could keep my cat off the kitchen table would be to
tie him up with a cable then he would be unable to get on the table

Wrong. If you put a bullet in the back of its neck, or drive
over it and squash it flat, it wouldnt be able to get on the table.

 

[Arno Wagner]

I plan to get a DVD writer early next year. When I do, I will need a 24
inch, 80 wire, cable to connect it. Where can I get a quality cable at
a reasonable price?

Is it better to get a flat cable or a round cable? If the flat cables
are better, would a good quality round cable be good enough?

Does not matter. It will only work if the DVD-Writer supports UDMA
checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,
so without the error checking the writer will become unusable.
With UDMA CRC, it may still not work. I have some 90cm (35" for
the metrically challenged)
round cables, that will cause drives connected to them fail after
some time since there are just too many errors and the Linux kernel
concludes tat the drive is defective. Cut down to 60cm (24") they work
fine with single newer HDDs, but not with my CD writer or DVD-ROM.

Do DVD writers (I will probably get the LG multi format drive) use error
correction/detection firmware so that they can compensate for marginal
cables? Thank you in advance for all replies.

No idea. My CD-writer (TEAC CD-W540E) does not use UDMA CRC checks
and just burns disks with some bits wrong (uncorrectable) if used
with a longer or a round cable.

Arno

 

[CJT]

I plan to get a DVD writer early next year. When I do, I will need a 24
inch, 80 wire, cable to connect it.

What you need is a DVD writer with an interface that supports a 24 inch
cable, like USB or SCSI (or perhaps Firewire).

Where can I get a quality cable at

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

Does not matter. It will only work if the DVD-Writer supports UDMA

checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,

So now he's a clairvoyent too.

 

[Arno Wagner]

So now he's a clairvoyent too.

O.K., I'll bite.

No, dear Folkert, unlike you I am just a good engineer and
understand the fundamentals of signal transmission.

Arno

 

[Rita_A_Berkowitz]

[...]

checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,

So now he's a clairvoyent too.

O.K., I'll bite.

No, dear Folkert, unlike you I am just a good engineer and
understand the fundamentals of signal transmission.

It's a shame that the resistance level is so high since SCSI can cure all
ills in this situation, no questions asked. Some people are just slow
learners.

Rita

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

O.K., I'll bite.

I won't.

No, dear Folkert, unlike you I am just a good engineer

An obvious and shameless lie.

and understand the fundamentals of signal transmission.

E00151R0 Proposed ATA/ATAPI 80-Conductor Cable Length Extension

Introduction:

This paper attempts to encourage further investigation into the use of
longer 80-conductor cables by presenting experimental data that show
negligible differences in Ultra DMA Mode 5 signal integrity between
a 27-inch, 80-conductor cable and an 18-inch, 80-conductor cable.

Arno

Who is mostly clueless, but doesn't let that get in his way.

 

[Rod Speed]

[...]
checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,

So now he's a clairvoyent too.

O.K., I'll bite.

No, dear Folkert, unlike you I am just a good engineer and
understand the fundamentals of signal transmission.

It's a shame that the resistance level is so high since SCSI can cure all
ills in this situation, no questions asked. Some people are just slow learners.

And fools like you are mindless one eyed bigots.

 

[Dave Glass]

What you need is a DVD writer with an interface that supports a 24 inch
cable, like USB or SCSI (or perhaps Firewire).

No, all he needs is a cable that is of higher quality than the norm.
Yes, there are such products on the market. Round ones too.

 

[CJT]

No, all he needs is a cable that is of higher quality than the norm.
Yes, there are such products on the market. Round ones too.

At that point it's no longer an IDE interface. It's a custom interface
similar to (or perhaps derived from) IDE. If he does the appropriate
engineering and testing with all the appropriate instruments, fine.
If not, then when something goes wrong, he has nobody to blame but
himself (and perhaps those who advised him to do it).

 

[Rod Speed]

No, all he needs is a cable that is of higher quality than the norm.

Mindless stuff. There cant be 'higher quality than the norm' in
any way that matters electrically with an 80 wire ribbon cable.

Yes, there are such products on the market.

Those just CLAIM to be higher quality,
and suckers like you buy that lie.

Round ones too.

Which completely flout the ATA standard.

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

Mindless stuff.
Clueless.

There cant be 'higher quality than the norm' in any way
that matters electrically with an 80 wire ribbon cable.

Mindlessly clueless.

Those just CLAIM to be higher quality,
and suckers like you buy that lie.

Deliberately clueless troll.

 

[Rod Speed]

Some pathetic little troll claiming to be
message just the usual pathetic excuse for a troll any 3 year old could leave for dead.

Try harder, child. You might actually manage to fool someone, sometime.