2 questions - where to post for windows 7 and about slow performance of windows 7.


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sheana

Hi,
I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to
which newsgroup I should be addressing.

Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs and
Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove Programs"
in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall, and clicked
"uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and around drove
me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to gather
"configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled. In disgust,
I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this typical
performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is Microsoft thinking about - this
is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE
enlighten me. This can't be right.


Thanks in advance.
 
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Tom Willett

Windows 7 forums
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro/

: Hi,
: I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to
: which newsgroup I should be addressing.
:
: Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs
and
: Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove
Programs"
: in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall, and clicked
: "uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and around drove
: me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to gather
: "configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled. In
disgust,
: I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this typical
: performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is Microsoft thinking about -
this
: is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE
: enlighten me. This can't be right.
:
:
: Thanks in advance.
:
 
B

Bruce Hagen

sheana said:
Hi,
I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to
which newsgroup I should be addressing.

Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs
and Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove
Programs" in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall,
and clicked "uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around
and around drove me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS
to gather "configuration information" about the program to be
uninstalled. In disgust, I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the
operation. Is this typical performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is
Microsoft thinking about - this is outrageous! If I am doing something
wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE enlighten me. This can't be right.


Thanks in advance.


A: Microsoft Answers Windows 7 Forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

B: Ask them.
 
S

sheana

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the link. I guess the online web forum is replacing the newsgroup
protocol. Sorry to see another change for the worse. I'm going to miss the
newsgroup format - it was so helpful and user friendly.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Hi,
I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to
which newsgroup I should be addressing.


Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org


Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs and
Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove Programs"
in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall, and clicked
"uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and around drove
me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to gather
"configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled. In disgust,
I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this typical
performance for Windows 7?



No, certainly not.

What program are you trying to uninstall?


If it is, what is Microsoft thinking about - this
is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE
enlighten me. This can't be right.


It's likely that something is wrong with the installation of the
program, and that's why you are having the problem. However, reboot,
if you haven't done so already, and then retry the uninstallation.
 
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Tim Slattery

sheana said:
Hi,
I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to
which newsgroup I should be addressing.

Microsoft has not created any newsgroups in the microsoft.public.*
hierarchy. They want everybody to use the web forums. You can use the
Usenet group alt.windows7.general
 
S

Stefan Patric

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the link. I guess the online web forum is replacing the
newsgroup protocol. Sorry to see another change for the worse. I'm going
to miss the newsgroup format - it was so helpful and user friendly.

On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone carries it.

Stef
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Stefan Patric said:
On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone carries
it.

Stef


And it is overrun with filthy mouthed trolls. I used to offer that group
as an option, but no more.
 
S

sheana

Sorry, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to Usenet. I called my ISP as
you suggested, and they didn't know anything about Usenet. Can you be a
little more specific in how I can sign up for this, or whatever I have to
do? Thanks in advance.
 
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K

Ken Blake, MVP

And it is overrun with filthy mouthed trolls. I used to offer that group
as an option, but no more.


With the judicious use of a killfile, the trolls hardly bother me.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

If your ISP doesn't carry it then ask them to carry it. Most will oblige.


Let me point out that many ISPs don't even have a newsreader any more.
So I'll change your statement above to "If whatever company supplies
your newsserver doesn't carry it then ask them to carry it."

And every (or at least almost every) newsreader lets you use multiple
newsservers. So there's need to even ask; I'll change the statement
again to "If whatever company supplies your newsserver doesn't carry
it then add the server aioe.org."
 
J

John John - MVP

Bruce said:
After 4 entries for Alias and 3 for Frank, I gave up.

[Rant mode on}

By themselves these two trolls practically ruined the Vista newsgroups,
I would say Alias is 1% or less responsible and 'Frank' is 99% or more
responsible. Wait... Microsoft allowed it all to go on unchecked and
did nothing to reign in these trolls, they wanted an excuse to get rid
of newsgroups and they played along and allowed these trolls to ruin it
for everybody else, the percentage for the at fault are...

[end rant]

John
 
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Tim Slattery

sheana said:
Sorry, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to Usenet. I called my ISP as
you suggested, and they didn't know anything about Usenet. Can you be a
little more specific in how I can sign up for this, or whatever I have to
do? Thanks in advance.

Check www.eternal-september.org
 
D

Don Wiss

Sorry, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to Usenet. I called my ISP as
you suggested, and they didn't know anything about Usenet. Can you be a
little more specific in how I can sign up for this, or whatever I have to
do? Thanks in advance.

I guess if you have a large organization like Cox you may be out of luck,
though you are at least lucky that they still carry Usenet. Verizon and AOL
dropped all newsgroups completely.

Doing a little googling I find from 2005 that to get a group added you
e-mail to (e-mail address removed)

Newly added groups are posted to cox.internet.discussion.newsgroups. Maybe
check there for more current procedures.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
 
P

Paul

sheana said:
Sorry, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to Usenet. I called my ISP
as you suggested, and they didn't know anything about Usenet. Can you
be a little more specific in how I can sign up for this, or whatever I
have to do? Thanks in advance.

USENET uses a bunch of servers, and the servers forward messages to one
another, until they all carry the same content (for a group they happen to
carry). Google is just one peer in the scheme of things, and USENET
predates the appearance of Google (and dejanews).

My ISP used to have its own USENET server, and participated in it. Then,
one day, the ISP decided to shut it down. (And this is before the Cuomo era.)

I've been using free USENET servers ever since, rather than pay yet more
money for the privilege.

A free server, that requires no signup, or even contacting the owner,
is nntp.aioe.org. The owner keeps a web page, with minimal information
about the various ways you can access it. This server allows both reading
existing messages and posting new messages. There is a limit to how many
messages can be posted per day, so for users that have a "chatroom" usage
pattern for USENET, this is the wrong server to try that on. This server
also happens to carry "alt.windows7.general" .

http://www.aioe.org/

nntp.aioe.org Port 119

You can find a list of USENET news readers here. I use Thunderbird from
mozilla.org . I can't think of any of these tools, that fit in the category
of "easy to use". The last one that fit that billing was on a Macintosh
about 20 years ago. It still takes a bit of fiddling to get it all set
up the way you want.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders

Problems in Thunderbird, usually arise from some change made by the
server administrator (such as re-numbering articles on the server).
Thunderbird lacks a "convenient button" when certain things break.
You can unsubscribe from a group and re-subscribe, and the problem
won't resolve itself.

If the server is stable, and doesn't receive a lot of maintenance,
Thunderbird can run a long time without needing assistance.

Some newsreaders are best described as "cryptic", using a whole bunch
of keyboard shortcut combinations to control them. I run into the odd
person, who actually likes that, but I can't for the life of me, figure
out why.

You can probably find a web page, with setup instructions for your newsreader.
For example, you could start at Step 2 here, and set up your connection
to nntp.aioe.org on Port 119.

http://www.stanford.edu/services/usenet/thunderbird_pc/index.html

I've heard of the odd issue with Thunderbird 3, which is why I'm still
using the 2 series. An update was pushed out today, which brings the
latest 2 stream release to 2.0.0.24.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/latest-2.0/

Here, I've burrowed down to the US English version 2.0.0.24 for Windows.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/latest-2.0/win32/en-US/

If you go to the mozilla.org web page, you can easily find the latest
3 stream download, and try that out.

Thunderbird handles both email and USENET news, which may confuse some
people when they fire up the tool. I use it purely for USENET and don't
do email with it.

Paul
 
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mikeyhsd

not normal behavior at all.

possible some part of the program waas still running and the uninstall was having problems.

not unusual.

but it usually notifies you.

(e-mail address removed)



Hi,
I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to
which newsgroup I should be addressing.

Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs and
Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove Programs"
in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall, and clicked
"uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and around drove
me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to gather
"configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled. In disgust,
I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this typical
performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is Microsoft thinking about - this
is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE
enlighten me. This can't be right.


Thanks in advance.
 

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