19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell

A

Andrew

Ok.. I encourage top posting. If I have to scroll down to search for a
reply outside of my newsreader's view window, I generally delete the message
instead.

So do I, but I encourage bottom/mid posting. It is the lack of
trimming that is the problem, not where the text is.
 
D

Dallas

"Beech45Whiskey"
What ruins us bottom posters's reputations are the folks who quote 500
lines of text, only to add their one line reply at the bottom.

Holy revelations Batman!!!!

I just realized I am a bottom poster!

And, right after I dissed ("disrespected" for those of you not in to hip hop
culture) bottom posters. I always trim and post at the bottom.

I honestly thought I was a top poster because my replies are always in the
view window. :-/


Dallas
 
K

kony

"Beech45Whiskey"

Ok.. I encourage top posting. If I have to scroll down to search for a
reply outside of my newsreader's view window, I generally delete the message
instead.

So all we have to do to keep top-posters from mucking things
up is to post more than OE can display? Seems easy
enough...
 
R

ric

the earth's magnetic field makes bugger all difference to TFTs.
it DOES however, make a difference to CRTs and some TVs.
to prove this, if you've a big, preferably fairly high-res monitor,
turn it through 180 degrees without turning it off/on and degaussing,
and look closely at the screen. a slight colour stain is very common,
which'll usually clear by the automatic degauss.
it doesn't always, but can be done manually using a, well, manual
degausser - which is a big circular electromagnet that you turn on
about 6 foot from the screen, bring it towards it and wipe around the
outside of the casing, before retiring to a slight distance and turning
it off.
anyone who's spent any time in the TV repair business will know what i
mean - usually severe cases are caused by non-shielded loudspeakers
placed too close to the TV...
 
R

ric

that's because that's a MICROSOFT group, and as any Outlook Express
user can tell you, MS likes top posting. It's still wrong.
 
B

Bill Leaming

Ok.. I encourage top posting. If I have to scroll down to search for a
reply outside of my newsreader's view window, I generally delete the message
instead.

Same here, Dallas! I strongly encourage "trimming the caboose" off quoted
messages as well.

It's absolutely maddening to sort through 3,527 lines of re-quoted quotes
to find the one line of reply... ;)

Bill
 
B

Bill Leaming

But, if someone new were to stumble onto the thread but his news server did
not contain any but the most recent post, it would be much easier for this
person to follow the history of the thread if everyone bottom posted.

What ruins us bottom posters's reputations are the folks who quote 500
lines of text, only to add their one line reply at the bottom. I, too,
agree that those types of bottom posters should be drawn and quartered.

Perhaps then a suitable alternative would be for the poster to have at
least a short, one line notice that his "content" is at the bottom? ;)

Bill
 
M

Michael Cody

"Wrong"? LOL! Who decides if it's wrong, you?

Sometimes I top post. Sometimes I bottom post and sometimes I post inline.
If you don't like it, sue me or call the Net police and have me arrested.

Cody
 
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Bob

If you don't like it, sue me or call the Net police and have me arrested.

They are on their way now - expect a knock on your door at 3:00am.

If you do not respond immediately,your house will be strafed by
helicopter gunships and your family will be gased and burned to death
- and you will be railroaded thru a kangaroo court and imprisoned for
life.


--

"What the American people have seen is this incredible
disparity in which those people who had cars and money
got out and those people who were impoverished drowned."
-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina

"Ditto"
-- Mary Jo Kopechne
 
Q

Quaestor

Michael said:
"Wrong"? LOL! Who decides if it's wrong, you?

Who are you talking to, top-poster?
Sometimes I top post. Sometimes I bottom post and sometimes I post inline.
If you don't like it, sue me or call the Net police and have me arrested.

I have a better idea. I'll put you in my own private jail.

*plonk*
 
D

Dragoncarer

Bill Leaming said:
Perhaps then a suitable alternative would be for the poster to have at
least a short, one line notice that his "content" is at the bottom? ;)

Bill

No, it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. If there's no content
at the top - then it has to be in the body or at the bottom.

I used to be a top poster.
But that was a long time, when I was young and foolish and reckless.
 
D

Daniel James

Bryan Bellis said:
Is Dimentia a particular form of madness caused by close association
with monitor phlogisten, or has your dose risen to such levels where
you can't spell Dementia any more?

I'd guess that "dimentia" may be to "dementia" as "phlogisten" is to
"phlogiston" ... that doesn't mean that either of them ("dimentia" and
"phlogisten", that is) have to mean anything.

... but let's not start any flaming, here!

Cheers,
Daniel.

[Phlogiston is, of course, related to the magic smoke whose release stops
electrical equipment from working.]
 
P

P Ruetz

ric said:
the earth's magnetic field makes bugger all difference to TFTs.
it DOES however, make a difference to CRTs and some TVs.
to prove this, if you've a big, preferably fairly high-res monitor,
turn it through 180 degrees without turning it off/on and degaussing,
and look closely at the screen. a slight colour stain is very common,
which'll usually clear by the automatic degauss.
it doesn't always, but can be done manually using a, well, manual
degausser - which is a big circular electromagnet that you turn on
about 6 foot from the screen, bring it towards it and wipe around the
outside of the casing, before retiring to a slight distance and turning
it off.
anyone who's spent any time in the TV repair business will know what i
mean - usually severe cases are caused by non-shielded loudspeakers
placed too close to the TV...

I actually found some useful information in your post! Most of this thread
seems to be bickering about top/bottom posting.

Peter
 
A

Andy Jeffries

However, the 2001FP is nearly 2-years old, it has mixed reviews, and
the specs are not as good as the Samsung.

I haven't seen many mixed reviews for the 2001FP. I've seen quite a few
people have problems with dead pixels or backlighting (but Dell in the
US has a no-quibble swap warranty which people tend to use).

I bought one yesterday and am absolutely in love with it!

No dead pixels/lighting problems, it looks stunning in Windows and Linux
and no blurring in games!

May not help you, as it's only MHO, but thought I'd at least post an
on-topic response ;-)

Cheers,


Andy
 
B

Bill Leaming

No, it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. If there's no content
at the top - then it has to be in the body or at the bottom.

I used to be a top poster.
But that was a long time, when I was young and foolish and reckless.
 
B

Bill Leaming

No, it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. If there's no content
at the top - then it has to be in the body or at the bottom.

I used to be a top poster.
But that was a long time, when I was young and foolish and reckless.

Not necessarily. It could, like my previous reply be devoid of new
content.

Now instead of being "young, foolish and reckless" you've settled on being
old, purile and obnoxious? ;)
 
D

Dave

ric said:
the earth's magnetic field makes bugger all difference to TFTs.
it DOES however, make a difference to CRTs and some TVs.
to prove this, if you've a big, preferably fairly high-res monitor,
turn it through 180 degrees without turning it off/on and degaussing,
and look closely at the screen. a slight colour stain is very common,
which'll usually clear by the automatic degauss.
it doesn't always, but can be done manually using a, well, manual
degausser - which is a big circular electromagnet that you turn on
about 6 foot from the screen, bring it towards it and wipe around the
outside of the casing, before retiring to a slight distance and turning
it off.
anyone who's spent any time in the TV repair business will know what i
mean - usually severe cases are caused by non-shielded loudspeakers
placed too close to the TV...

Ahhh, yes, the de-gauss wand. Been known to wipe credit cards, especially
when used as an offensive weapon or as weapon against an offensive person.
Been there, done that....

You are correct quite about the earth's magnetic field affecting CRT
monitors and TVs. Normally, when the TV/CRTs are shifted from one location
to another that they face 180° in the opposite direction, you will notice
some colour bleed because the mask screen has been magnetised to the
previous location. The longer it was sitting in the original location, the
more obvious the bleed when the orientation is changed.

If you have an old monitor, store it on its side or upside down for at least
6 months and then re-test. I can guarantee you will see colour bleed when
reconnected. If it is old, it could take more than 10 power cycles for the
in-built de-gausser to fix the screen, assuming it has a de-gausser and it
works. The wand makes the fix much faster.

Dave

PS. By wand, the one I use is an electro-magnet mounted in one end of 3" dia
(7.5cm) poly pipe, about 18" (45cm) long and has a press-switch on the other
end. It only has about a 25% duty cycle but since it was free, I can't
complain!
 
B

Bryan

If you have an old monitor, store it on its side or upside down for at
least 6 months and then re-test. I can guarantee you will see colour
bleed when reconnected. If it is old, it could take more than 10 power
cycles for the in-built de-gausser to fix the screen, assuming it has a
de-gausser and it works. The wand makes the fix much faster.

Dave

You must have bloody good eyes if you can detect a colour bleed in 0.2 of a
second

Personally, I think it would be caused by all the colours running to the
bottom after a long storage lol


Bryan
 
L

lifeconstruct

Roommate has a Samsung 19 lcd, and it sucks like hell. Color corection
is non existant. curently has 9 dead pixels. Dell has had a few good
products, but I curently have a viewSonic 21 " lcd and it works
flawlessly. I also have a Kogi 17" that has lasted me 5 years w no
dead pixels.
 

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