1394 Device Missing

[Willard]

WinXPproSP3 on Dell Vostro1510: The device Mgr. no longer shows a 1394
device, and plug in of my external 1394 HDD is not recognized..
Is there a 1394 driver for download or repair??

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP)]

WinXPproSP3 on Dell Vostro1510: The device Mgr. no longer shows a 1394

device, and plug in of my external 1394 HDD is not recognized..
Is there a 1394 driver for download or repair??

Unplug the device and then see if installing the following post-SP3
firewire-related / 1394 patches help you any. AT the top of each page
click "View and request hotfix downloads", follow the instructions:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955408
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955356
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958149
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/960970

You should also install this update for sure:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961187

Let me know how it goes.

 

[Guest]

Look in Computer Management instead to see if the device is listed when
plugged in

right-click MY COMPUTER | MANAGE | DISK MANAGEMENT

Also, in device manager you can right-click the top level and scan for
hardware changes

 

[Willard]

Device does not show in Disk Management, nor when scanned for hardware
changes..
The device works when plugged in to an older PC..
As I recall the 1394 driver used to be listed by device Mgr.,even when
not plugged in..

 

[Patrick Keenan]

Device does not show in Disk Management, nor when scanned for hardware
changes..
The device works when plugged in to an older PC..
As I recall the 1394 driver used to be listed by device Mgr.,even when not
plugged in..

Firewire ports do occasionally fry. Can you try another Firewire card?

 

[Willard]

I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..

 

[Patrick Keenan]

I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..

There are PCMCIA firewire cards available starting around $30. I've had to
use them myself when the onboard ports fried - on both Windows and Mac
laptops.

If the laptop is newer and has ExpressCard slots instead of PCMCIA, cards
are harder to find and are more expensive, but they are available.

 

[Paul]

I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..

Get a copy of Everest.

http://majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181

If you look in DevicesCI Devices, you should see any chips on the
bus in the laptop. I would expect to find the following, which would
all be part of an O2micro chip. The O2micro chip is primarily added
to support the Cardbus slot (your expansion slot), but also includes
some other functions. This is my best guess as to what you'd see.

VEN_1217&DEV_00F7 OHCI IEEE 1394 (1217 = O2Micro)
VEN_1217&DEV_7120 Integrated MMC/SD
VEN_1217&DEV_7130 Integrated MS/xD
VEN_1217&DEV_7134 CardBus

The Everest display will show "Device ID" and values like "1217-00F7".
So the format of the information is slightly compacted.

The Dell driver for O2micro, is this one. The driver supports the lower
three items, but does not include Firewire. And that is because Firewire
is supposed to be covered by the OS itself.

ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/chipset/R197155.exe

According to this hardware report, 1394.inf (which will be on your C drive,
in the INF folder) is supposed to cover the Firewire. I looked in my copy
of that file (for SP3), and 1217-00F7 is not included. I take it, that
they're using a "generic" mechanism of some sort (like the BIOS passing
some kind of plug and play info) to get it detected. Look for
PCI\VEN_1217&DEV_00F7 on this page, and see if your results are similar.

http://www.hardware.no/tester/laptop/dell/d820/report.htm

Seeing the presence of the device, may mean the logic block is still
functional. But it doesn't explain why the Device Manager is not
showing it.

You might also look in the setupapi.log file, for any messages related to
trying to enumerate and install that device. There is likely more than
one file with that name in it, as when the file gets too big, Windows
starts a new one.

Paul

 

[ArameFarpado]

Em Sábado 11 Julho 2009 23:40, Willard escreveu:

I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..

if you wanna be sure if it's a hardware fail or a OS fail, boot your
notebook with a knoppix live-cd, and see if the device is working there.

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP)]

I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..

There have been a few others who've has 1394 issues when updating to
SP3. Have you tried the patches in the links I've provided?

 

[Willard]

For some reason I can"t download from the Koppix site, so I ordered a $2
CD..
I have Cloned (Ghost) a week old USB backup drive to my C:\;(os);
The IEEE 1394 Bus Host Controllers, has returned to the Device Mgr listing..But the 1394 plug in to the external HDD is still not rcognized

 

[Peter Foldes]

You can also use Ubuntu to boot your notebook along with Knoppix and Barts PE