Yet another reason to uninstall Java.

[JanC]

My solution is to dump Java entirely and that is exactly what I've
done. My computer runs fine and does everything I need without Java.
Fu**em.

You'd better dump your PC then, because almost every useable operating
system already has an authentication API built-in...

You can use dynamite to kill people or for helping them to survive.

So, as long as I can control if & when this is used, I don't care.
But when they take away control from the user I'll stop using it.

 

[Offbreed]

Don't sell the American people short. We have a long history or rejecting
stifling laws, and throwing out law makers that wish to encroach on our
freedoms by creating a Nanny State.

Sit where you can listen to teenagers and college students discussing
politics. Ask questions, but do not get judgmental or they will shut up.

These are the voters of tomorrow, and they will be voting about the
time you run out of energy to fight for your self.

 

[Bob Adkins]

So, as long as I can control if & when this is used, I don't care.
But when they take away control from the user I'll stop using it.

Well said Jan.

Remember the Intel P2 (or was it P3) unique ID number encoded into every
CPU? Did you see how quickly the motherboard Mfr's added a "Disable" option
in the BIOS setup? I got a good laugh out of that one. Intel (or Sun, or MS)
can try, but there are too many smart people in the computer industry to
fall for such schemes.

Bob

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[Offbreed]

John, every business in the world is in business to suit their own ends,
which is to make a profit. Yes, even you.

There's a difference between trying to make a living, and trying to
prevent others from making a living by getting laws passed and bribing
or coercing people in related industries.

 

[Bob Adkins]

These are the voters of tomorrow, and they will be voting about the
time you run out of energy to fight for your self.

They will also choose our nursing home for us.

Bob

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[Bob Adkins]

There's a difference between trying to make a living, and trying to
prevent others from making a living by getting laws passed and bribing
or coercing people in related industries.

That's criminal. Where's a cop when you need one?

Bob

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[Offbreed]

So, as long as I can control if & when this is used, I don't care.
But when they take away control from the user I'll stop using it.

I'm right there with you on that one.

There's times when identification is necessary, and there's times when
it serves no function I regard as legitimate.

 

[Offbreed]

That's criminal. Where's a cop when you need one?

Enforcing the laws passed by paid off legislators, I guess.

 

[techie]

I'm right there with you on that one.

There's times when identification is necessary, and there's times when
it serves no function I regard as legitimate.

The begining of this thread is no longer on my news server so I don't
know if this was what started it, but:

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<http://www.silicon.com/management/itpro/0,39024675,39118399,00.htm>

"Wouldn't it be interesting if you could use the SIM card in your phone
in your PC to identify yourself?" Schwartz asked. Many companies would
be interested in such a feature, because identifying a PC user would
make it easier to sell protected content such as digital music, he
argued.

"Anonymity tends to go hand in hand with mischief," he said.
"Authentication tends to eliminate this mischief."

Sun said in 2003 that more than 400 million Java Cards have been issued.
SIM cards in phones are the most common example but Java Card technology
also is used to identify more than 4 million Defense Department
employees and 24 million citizens of Taiwan.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Too bad they don't post that quote on their Java download page, where
they insist you provide all sorts of personal information before you can
download Java.

 

[techie]

They will also choose our nursing home for us.

Can you say, "Soylent Green" P

 

[Bob Adkins]

Enforcing the laws passed by paid off legislators, I guess.

If you know something and you don't report it, you are a criminal too.

Bob

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[Bob Adkins]

Can you say, "Soylent Green" P

You just gave away your age.

Bob

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[J. Yazel]

Remember the Intel P2 (or was it P3) unique ID number encoded into every
CPU? Did you see how quickly the motherboard Mfr's added a "Disable" option
in the BIOS setup? I got a good laugh out of that one. Intel (or Sun, or MS)
can try, but there are too many smart people in the computer industry to
fall for such schemes.

Bob

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That's the one that you know about.

Jack

 

[Bob Adkins]

That's the one that you know about.

Like I said, there are too many smart people in the computer industry.
There's no way all of them will get caught napping.

What's to stop a disgruntled or former employee from blowing the whistle?

The CPU ID thing wasn't even secret, and Intel still caught a lot of flak.
Do you really think anyone would be foolish enough to build in a spy device
into hardware and risk ruin and even jail? I don't. Anyone with half a brain
would know he would be busted within a week.

Bob

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[JunkMonkey]

The global "neural" network WILL have well integrated Firewalls and
antivirus protection. Unauthorized access will be prevented and "programs"
not in the registry will be quarantined and deleted.

Does anyone know of a FREE program that can tell the difference between
Black helicopters and regular ones from a distance, say, by the sound? I'm
thinking a 30 to 40 minute head start should be all I need.

 

[Bob Adkins]

The global "neural" network WILL have well integrated Firewalls and
antivirus protection. Unauthorized access will be prevented and "programs"
not in the registry will be quarantined and deleted.

Does anyone know of a FREE program that can tell the difference between
Black helicopters and regular ones from a distance, say, by the sound? I'm
thinking a 30 to 40 minute head start should be all I need.

I'll loan you my tinfoil hat and you don't even need to worry about those
black helicopters.

Bob

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[JunkMonkey]

Bob, what would you do without your tinfoil hat? Then YOU'D be vulnerable
to those pesky helicopters!

The truth IS out there! The problem is, I'M out there too!