XP Pro Is Not Upgradable To All Versions Of Vista?

[D. Spencer Hines]

XP Pro Is Not Upgradable To All Versions Of Vista?

Why?

UAC, DRM, et al., conflict with XP Pro

What's the story on this?

DSH

 

[Frankster]

"Upgrade" is a nebulous term. You can "upgrade" (Webster's Dictionary
definition) XP Pro with any version of Vista if you do a clean install,
wiping out all prior versions of Windows.

On the other hand, what MS calls an "In-place Upgrade", which preservs your
XP programs/configuration, is limited by the type of OS you have now. It has
to be the same type (type=my word). IOW, "Home" and "Pro" of XP equals
"Home" or "Business/Ultimate" of Vista. Home to Home, and Pro to
Business/Ultimate is ok for in-place upgrades.

-Frank

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"UAC, DRM" have nothing to do with valid upgrade paths.
It has more to do with the intended purpose.
Upgrades to Windows XP have similar limitations:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/matrix.mspx

Among other considerations, versions intended for businesses can not
upgrade to home versions.
This is old news and not new with Windows Vista.

But I think you already know all this.

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

That information needs to be more widely promulgated.

Anyone sane wants an "IN-PLACE UPGRADE".

Thanks.

Can an "IN-PLACE UPGRADE" also be "CLEAN" -- that is wipe out all the ash
and trash left behind and wipe out all the obsolete REG entries -- or does
it leave a lot of that crap "IN-PLACE" too?

"Upgrade"

And:

"It all depends on what the meaning of "is" is."

DSH

 

[MICHAEL]

Vista uses an image based install, and that is quite different
from prior OS installs. Even when you do an "upgrade",
the OS install is clean. Basically, the Vista install takes
inventory of your settings and programs, sets them aside,
and then puts down a brand new OS image. It them imports
those settings and programs back into Vista, and that is where
many users are running into problems. Especially, users with
a lot of programs installed.


-Michael

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

VERY Interesting.

Thank you kindly.

You explain it very well, in short scope -- without all the Technobabble and
Authority Rattling.

It then imports those settings and programs back into Vista, and that is
where many users are running into problems. Especially, users with
a lot of programs installed.

1. That's probably the lion's share of us users out here.

2. I imagine it's a very tricky process with lots of potential pitfalls.

3. Does the image based install wipe out the old REG entries too and leave
no ash and trash behind in TEMP files and DOWNLOAD files?

DSH
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[SysAdminTH]

XP Pro Is Not Upgradable To All Versions Of Vista?

Why?

UAC, DRM, et al., conflict with XP Pro

What's the story on this?

DSH

Perhaps the question should be 'Vista is not Upgradable to XP Pro?'

 

[MICHAEL]

VERY Interesting.

Here's an excellent article on the new image-based install.
http://www.apcstart.com/3834/inside_vistas_new_image_based_install

Thank you kindly.

You're welcome.

You explain it very well, in short scope -- without all the Technobabble and
Authority Rattling.

Some folks just can't help themselves. ;-)

1. That's probably the lion's share of us users out here.

Probably so, and most folks want the easier route, which is
doing an in-place-upgrade. However, that is also the path with
more potential problems. Even though the OS install itself is
clean.

2. I imagine it's a very tricky process with lots of potential pitfalls.

Absolutely. The upgrade also takes a heck of a lot longer, sometimes,
several hours, depending on how much data and programs a user has.

If a user wants to do an upgrade, I would suggest doing some good
disk cleanup and maintenance, first. Uninstall any programs you don't
want or haven't used in awhile. Uninstall any AV, firewall, spyware program
for sure. Also, uninstall any programs that the advisor/compatibility check
recommends. Run a disk check and defrag.

3. Does the image based install wipe out the old REG entries too and leave no ash and trash
behind in TEMP files and DOWNLOAD files?

The registry should be absolutely new and clean, except for those needed
to run any imported programs.

Anything that the install doesn't import back into Vista is placed
into a folder called windows.old. You can go through that folder
to see if there's anything you may want. If not, you can delete it.

My suggestion is for folks to use Windows Easy Transfer to save
their settings and files. Do a clean install. And then import that stuff
back into Vista. Reinstall your programs. This may seem like a pain,
but it the end it will more than likely save many users from even more
pain.

Take care,

Michael

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

VERY CLEAR, CONCISE post by "Michael".

A Model Of USENET Communications.

He actually answered my questions.

Land's Sake! <g>

Thank you kindly.

You teach/study Computer Science at Chapel Hill -- work in the Industry --
or are just a layperson who is smarter than the average bear? <g>

UNC Chapel Hill is indeed a Stellar University.

Aloha,

DSH

 

[MICHAEL]

Thanks.

Journalism was my major at Chapel Hill. I worked for awhile
at the Charlotte Observer. I decided I wanted more money,
and started working for myself by investing and trading.

Computers are merely a hobby for me.

Take care,

Michael

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

You write very well.

Any books?

DSH

Thanks.

Journalism was my major at Chapel Hill. I worked for awhile
at the Charlotte Observer. I decided I wanted more money,
and started working for myself by investing and trading.

Computers are merely a hobby for me.

Take care,

Michael

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

XP Pro includes advanced tools and capabilities that are not available in
the Home versions of Vista. This is why, although you can use an upgrade
version of Vista Home Basic or Home Premium, to install over an existing XP
Pro version, you will only be able to perform a clean install.

To perform an in place upgrade, you need to use a corresponding or better
version of Vista.

 

[MICHAEL]

No book... yet.

-Michael

You write very well.

Any books?

DSH

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

Understood.

Thank you kindly.

DSH

XP Pro includes advanced tools and capabilities that are not available in
the Home versions of Vista. This is why, although you can use an upgrade
version of Vista Home Basic or Home Premium, to install over an existing
XP Pro version, you will only be able to perform a clean install.

To perform an in place upgrade, you need to use a corresponding or better
version of Vista.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User